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Thema: [Mafia] - Werewolf: Llamedos (Day 2) |
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Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ April 23rd 2018,23:09:13 ) Ivelin, why the hell was there ever talk of a possible single werewolf? You know what a mafia group of one is? A SK! It can't be mafia if there is only one member - goes against the whole premise of the game. That’s my mistake and I don’t know why I didn’t think of that. But neither did everybody else!
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Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ April 23rd 2018,22:02:20 ) Even the QT was closed for a period after D2 started
no answer no nothing Considering you were alone at that point that shouldn’t have been a problem. But on D1, it’s unfortunate.
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Tbh, both scum played bad, their only hope was Kirsty being so stubborn on me being scum from the first page of the game. :P
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I was totally not thinking. Saw it as connection issues, so sorry Edo. didn;t even compute that it may have been an intentional late vote
Bastard mod indeed
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Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ April 23rd 2018,23:09:13 ) Heard other people having issues in the past from some countries, IIRC, and could only access QT via a proxy. This goes for Turkey. I was using VPN to be able to access QuickTopic.
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Quote ( Riley Dunlop @ April 23rd 2018,22:06:06 ) Edo, just out of interest, why did you choose to kill me
Of the 5 townies:
Mike and Rocco could be easy targets with mike being a strong candidate for a llynch on D1 and Rocco not really playing.
So it was between Ivelin, Kirsty and you.
Since Damir never told me if he had a PR and the kill flavor did not say anything I inferred there were not too many PR´s in the game but in case there was an SK a doctor role would be nice.
Kirsty was being not as strong as always, and had doubts on MIke and Ivelin so she was more helpful to me. Ivelin could have attracted more protection, and someone could say that I killed him because of all the tunneling (on hindsight it could have been better to do so, but the protectoin worried me and I had to kill to increase my chances of winning) I thought you would not be protected and I know you get more dangeorus to scum as the game progresses.
You did nothing wrong, but you are the kind of player that genreally is not protected or watched on d1 and that later in the game is dangeous to scum.
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Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ April 23rd 2018,22:48:23 ) Eduardo, why did you try and instalynch your buddy in a game so small?
I wanted to mislynch (as in misfire) have a no lynch, On purpose I posted 2 seconds after the deadline (made sure that my clock was fine since the issue that on Opera a GPRO page could not be on time is real).
I appeared to get a lynch on either Rocco, Mike or Ivelin, then it changed to Damir, had no other choice either to disappear at the end or make a late lynch.
I know the heat would have been great but it would have been an advantage to have 2 Scum alive (playing at least until D3) and maybe taking another Nigth Action.
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Quote ( Kirsty Ridley @ April 23rd 2018,22:09:46 ) Last few games I have been obvtown for most ppl, I want to be scum so much to see if I can copy it well lol
No way Kirsty your scum tell is notorious.
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Quote ( Gareth Griffiths @ April 24th 2018,00:29:46 ) I was totally not thinking. Saw it as connection issues, so sorry Edo. didn;t even compute that it may have been an intentional late vote
To be honest even with connection problems a late vote is a late vote, it has happened before that lousy connections make the vote come in late.
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Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ April 24th 2018,01:48:59 ) I wanted to mislynch (as in misfire) have a no lynch, On purpose I posted 2 seconds after the deadline (made sure that my clock was fine since the issue that on Opera a GPRO page could not be on time is real).
Then I have absolutely no sympathy!
Quote ( Gareth Griffiths @ April 12th 2018,15:51:19 ) There will be no twilight (talking after a lynch has been decided) in this game.
Deliberately posting just after deadline, even by a few seconds, to try and fake the desire to lynch someone is against the rules and doing so is totally out of order.
Why can't people play to the rules and spirit of the game?
Gareth should not have allowed a vote after deadline to count - there is no doubt about that and no excuse for him to do so. But for someone to try and gain an advantage by deliberately breaking the rules is a very sad state of affairs and something I was always happy to believe that no one would do here, especially one of the longer time players.
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Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ April 24th 2018,01:48:59 ) I appeared to get a lynch on either Rocco, Mike or Ivelin, then it changed to Damir, had no other choice either to disappear at the end or make a late lynch.
You did have a choice - you could have moved your vote before Kirsty did. You already listed your preference order to lynch and Ivelin didn't look likely to be lynched, so you could have moved to Mike and basically forced Kirsty to lynch him or no lynch.
You waiting and not pushing your own convictions looked very suspicious.
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Quote ( Gareth Griffiths @ April 24th 2018,00:29:46 ) didn;t even compute that it may have been an intentional late vote
You couldn't have known for sure. If you did know his true intentions (something no one could possibly know without Eduardo's admission), then a no lynch and an Eduardo modkill would have been the correct course of action.
While it's wrong to have had a lynch, I'm not disappointed to see Eduardo lose this game.
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Come on Kevin
chill out
I"m no the first one to do so and you know it.
I came in 5 minutes before deadline and it wad very complicated for me.
(one of the reasons why I don't like playing small games).
And to be honest it is really sad when people use that for their advantage the last two games Iwas lynched not being present and going from none or 1 vote to Indtalynch in the final hour, mostly pushed by a player that seems to have a personal grudge against me and always labels me as scum and has fauled miserably except this game.
When I came in it was too late to change to Mike since Kirsty had already agreed to lynch Damir and Ivelim, regardless what he says would not had changed (he has not done so on previous games).
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Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ April 24th 2018,09:26:38 ) Come on Kevin
chill out
I"m no the first one to do so and you know it.
If anyone else has ever deliberately posted after a deadline with a fake vote to try and make it look real, then they are a cheat. I'm not aware of anyone having done it, and my opinion would be the same regardless of who it is. It's deliberate rule breaking to try and gain an advantage and not something I'll "chill out" about. If you're willing to break any rule to gain an advantage then where does it stop? Who are you, or anyone, to decide which rules are OK to break a bit and which are not?
It's cheating. It's against the spirit of the game. And is taking advantage of GPRO not being a dedicated mafia site where such a thing wouldn't be possible (as the thread would lock and not allow posts after a deadline has passed).
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Ironically, it was the deciding factor for me in who to investigate - not that it had any effect in the end as I was killed
It screamed to me of being a scummy move once Damir's flip was shown
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Well so it seems I'm a cheat, the first one to be caught on this..
Even if the thread was locked there would be a no lynch.
Any way to avoid being called like that again and carry that stigma,
this is my last Mafia Game.
Not only due to this is not a tantrum, it is the way that Mafia has evolved in GPRO.
People are too reliant on Power Roles, you propose an all vainilla game and nobody wants to play.
Voting is a last minute sprint with quite a few players not voting until just deadline and then just to accomplish a lynch.
Interactions are getting really scarce and such is content, so the game has turned out to be dominated by whoever is online most of the time and posts more, not really comtent or scum hunting (yes that is the Winkley style a kind of bullying through the game) Yes I know Mafia is about that but without anybody playing against it, it simply overwhelms the thread (fortunately we have not seen recent cases of these style playing people abandoning a game before being lynched and thus still sayinf they have not been lynched in a long time).
We are always the same people and we know too much about each other or become repetitiive (as an example Ivelin has pushed my lynch in the last 4-5 games without even thinking about it just always claims I'm scum and mostly wrong). We know our scumtells too much.
New players are abused when thrown into this circles, and not because Mafia needs some abuse, but they are relentlessly abused from D1 and not many go past D3 in a large game since its easy for them to quit.
People still say they will.post and appear on the last second and cast a vote without even reading or taking time to do so. We have players continously posting 1 or 2 posta per day (if they do) just to comply and they keep promising to come back read and don't do so.
Ok too much but that os what I see, but expressing it during a game is bad and is a source of attack for the "concerned townie".
Will read a game once in a while but this post is my swan song from GPRO Mafia.
Please enjoy your games.
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