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#1 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 08:20:21
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Hi I am a new in this game.Pls help me how to calculate how much fuel is needed.In testing reis I see that for 5 laps need 17 liters.But this is in Amerkan reis.But how to know in Suzuka for example?
Sorry if in this forum have topic like this but I don't finded
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Alas, you just have to experiment. In the rules it says no race should use more than 280 litres. On the track info it says how high/low fuel consumption is - high would be erring towards this for the whole race.
If you assume worst case scenario and go for 280 litres across the whole race, you'll be overfueled but you will gather some info about consumption. Do it for a few races and you'll soon get a good grasp of what fuel load should be...
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people saying foby are just boosting their post count - ignore them.
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#3 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 08:28:30
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Your test track has a very high level of fuel consumption while Suzuka has a medium fuel consumption level. So you can calculate the fuel required per km for Laguna Seca and then adjust it downwards for Suzuka. How much less it will be is something you will learn with time but for this race you can assume that fuel required per km will be much lesser than Laguna Seca.
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#4 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 08:28:40
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#5 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 08:30:17
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Quote ( Jahrome Lamey @ June 10th 2010,08:23:52 )
foby
How about helping him instead of saying FOBY.
I am getting sick and tired of people like you saying FOBY.
Veselin we are limited to what can be said here, however if you search in forums I am sure you will find some useful information.
Alot of factors come into place within GPRO with regards to fuel. Different tracks require different fuel as you can imagine, its finding all this out through years of playing etc. However finding good friends, search on forums, joining teams all help in the long run.
For now I suggest searching forums. Mark Webster did a newbie guide which will help alot I suggest you hunt it down(check in FAQS, newbie guide and wiki) and sorry I do not have the link to hand.
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#6 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 08:37:34
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At first you must collect data to see how much fuel per km is necessary for that kind of track. Here are also hint in track characteristic page what will help you to pick suitable fuel amount for similar fuel usage tracks even before you have exact data on them...Hint - add slighty more before you know exact numbers. For rookie it must be enough.
Later you can try to find what else affect fuel consumption as you will improve all areas of your game...
But direct answer how much fuel you need for upcomming race no one will and no one can tell you. Because it is restricted by rules (called FOBY) and also no one can tell you precize number without knowing all circumstances of your account.
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Quote ( Veselin Stoyanov @ June 10th 2010,08:20:21 )
Hi I am a new in this game.Pls help me how to calculate how much fuel is needed.In testing reis I see that for 5 laps need 17 liters.But this is in Amerkan reis.But how to know in Suzuka for example?
If you notice the track characteristics for Leguna Seca ( /TrackDetails.asp?id=35 ) you'll get some information about that track. It says here that the fuel consumption is "very high" for that track. Suzuka on the other hand ( /TrackDetails.asp?id=13 ) has fuel consumption listed as "medium". This obviously means that for the same car and driver, you will require more fuel for Leguna Seca than for Suzuka for the same distance.
So, for the first race, you can take the fuel for Leguna Seca as a guide for determining the fuel required for Suzuka. Just decrease the fuel input a bit (about 10-15 litres over entire race should be fine). You will most probably still end up with some excess fuel, but bear in mind that this is your first race and you don't need to be exact for your first race.
Note down the fuel you require in Suzuka as well. Now you have 2 figures, the fuel consumption for Leguna Seca as well as for Suzuka. You can interpolate and find out fuel required for the next race.
Bear in mind though that there are a lot of factors which affect fuel consumption, so I advise you that till you determine what those are, always over-fuel a bit just in case the consumption is a bit more than what you have calculated.
One more thing:
Quote ( Veselin Stoyanov @ June 10th 2010,08:20:21 )
In testing reis I see that for 5 laps need 17 liters
It is always better to keep record of fuel consumption per kilometer rather than fuel consumption per lap because different tracks have laps of different lengths. Not only that, different tracks also have different race lengths (the race distance for Leguna Seca is less than that for Suzuka for example)
Also,
Quote ( Jahrome Lamey @ June 10th 2010,08:23:52 )
foby
f off.
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#8 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 08:49:53
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Quote ( Chinmay Dhopate @ June 10th 2010,08:39:27 )
Also,
Quote ( Jahrome Lamey @ June 10th 2010,08:23:52 )
foby
f off.
Well said Chinmay.
Everything you need has been posted here already Veselin. Unfortunately the nature of this game is that you do need to find out stuff by yourself but straight FOBY posts help nobody.
@ Jahrome....If you have nothing constructive to say then please just ignore the thread.
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#9 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 09:36:52
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Thanks to everyone for the quick reply and advice.I am grateful for this.Good luck to all in the game (and I will I need)
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#10 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 09:58:18
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Quote ( Chinmay Dhopate @ June 10th 2010,08:39:27 )
Quote ( Jahrome Lamey @ June 10th 2010,08:23:52 )foby
f off.
No need for that reply either Chinmay.
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Anyway, the Wiki says a maximum of 280 (or 300) litres. See track characteristics & work it out from there.
And many of my team mates are using 20-30 litre more than my driver per race so you can't get an exact number.
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#11 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 10:02:50
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Quote ( Brian Branch @ June 10th 2010,09:58:18 )
No need for that reply either Chinmay.
What? I did not insult him. f off may as well stand for figure out for future...
It is as offensive as foby might seem like to a newbie.
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#12 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 10:10:28
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#13 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 10:11:56
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How about we let the crew deal with people who post FOBY and you all just concentrate on posting useful answers :)
Notice that the FOBY post was gone already, no need to go on about it.
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#14 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 10:14:08
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joining a team might help with these issues as well :)
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#15 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 14:18:32
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Veselin, try doing this:
Every race you wright down the race distance (X km) and the total amoutn of fuel used (like Y l). Divide this tow numbers and get a Z km/l. Similar circuits have similar consumptions (medium, hig, very low etc). So you use past data to forecast your future needs. ;)
Other things have influence as well, but this is a good starting point for you =)
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#16 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 14:21:21
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Oh mario mario mario....!!!Thks (even if this isnt the one calculation that i do!)
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#17 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 14:35:13
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Quote ( Michael Keeney @ June 10th 2010,08:30:17 )
How about helping him instead of saying FOBY.
I am getting sick and tired of people like you saying FOBY.
Quite agree
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#18 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 14:43:44
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Quote ( Gordon Ashford @ June 10th 2010,10:11:56 )
How about we let the crew deal with people who post FOBY and you all just concentrate on posting useful answers :)
Notice that the FOBY post was gone already, no need to go on about it.
Gordon,
i'm playing this game for a few years, and i must say that i'm very happy with this atitude.
There are limits for what we can say, but we can say much to help new players.
@Vaselin
Welcome to the game.
I think that you have here some very usefull information, use it well....
You are reaching your next question....
"How do i calculate tire wear?"
Gl to the game. It's a great game
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#19 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 15:08:54
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Quality link, never seen that site before. F OFF = Friends Of Florida Folk! :)
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#20 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 15:12:16
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Quote ( Lee Platt @ June 10th 2010,15:08:54 )
Quality link, never seen that site before. F OFF = Friends Of Florida Folk! :)
Apparently WTF is Welcome To Finland :D
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#21 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 15:15:41 (viimeksi muokattu 10.06.2010, 15:18:33 Lee Platt toimesta)
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LMAO (Lick Me All Over). Just been looking at a few commonly used and they dont mean what I thought they did LOL (Lord Oh Lord) ;)
Quote ( Jed Lilly @ June 10th 2010,15:12:16 )
Apparently WTF is Welcome To Finland :D Quote ( Jed Lilly @ June 10th 2010,15:12:16 )
Apparently WTF is Welcome To Finland :D
That one included
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#22 lähetetty 10.06.2010, 19:35:02 (viimeksi muokattu 10.06.2010, 19:35:11 Jon Day toimesta)
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Quote ( Jed Lilly @ June 10th 2010,15:12:16 )
Apparently WTF is Welcome To Finland :D oh ok I thought it was "wheres Trevor Francis)
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#23 lähetetty 11.06.2010, 00:32:33
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Quote ( Lee Platt @ June 10th 2010,15:08:54 )
Quality link, never seen that site before. F OFF = Friends Of Florida Folk! :)
Seriously, does anybody actually believes that Chinmay was doing anything other than using foul language?
The use of foul language, or suggested foul language against another player is surely worse than saying Foby.
Seriously if people need to swear, then they really aren't worth listening to.
_ _ _ _
Anyway I think that the actual question asked as been answered as well as permitted.
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#24 lähetetty 11.06.2010, 00:41:03
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Quote ( Brian Branch @ June 11th 2010,00:32:33 )
Seriously, does anybody actually believes that Chinmay was doing anything other than using foul language?
innocent till proven guilty...
and here we are, back in the other thread, hey.. ;)
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#25 lähetetty 11.06.2010, 00:42:37
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Quote ( Chinmay Dhopate @ June 10th 2010,10:02:50 )
What? I did not insult him. f off may as well stand for figure out for future...
It is as offensive as foby might seem like to a newbie.
Oh my... what have you done... I can imagine the crew having to deal with removing f off's all over the place now :P
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#26 lähetetty 11.06.2010, 03:14:51
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Quote ( Mário Faria @ June 10th 2010,14:18:32 )
Veselin, try doing this:
Every race you wright down the race distance (X km) and the total amoutn of fuel used (like Y l). Divide this tow numbers and get a Z km/l. Similar circuits have similar consumptions (medium, hig, very low etc). So you use past data to forecast your future needs. ;)
That will not work. Simply because you will have races (already a few this season) where there is variable weather. You are on the right track though but you need to do this for each and every stint individually instead of just for the race itself.
You might be able to see if there is a correlation between weather changes as well doing by stint computations.
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#27 lähetetty 11.06.2010, 03:18:26
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Quote ( Paulo Pereira @ June 10th 2010,14:43:44 )
@Vaselin
Welcome to the game.
not Vaselin but Veselin.
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Quote ( Brian Branch @ June 11th 2010,00:32:33 )
Seriously, does anybody actually believes that Chinmay was doing anything other than using foul language?
I suggest you listen and do what Gordon says instead of yapping on about my post:
Quote ( Gordon Ashford @ June 10th 2010,10:11:56 )
Notice that the FOBY post was gone already, no need to go on about it.
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#29 lähetetty 11.06.2010, 08:46:01
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AH ... Ol' good brain Branch :DDD
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#30 lähetetty 11.06.2010, 08:50:58
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Quote ( Veselin Stoyanov @ June 10th 2010,09:36:52 )
Thanks to everyone for the quick reply and advice.I am grateful for this.Good luck to all in the game (and I will I need) Another thing, I recommend taking the certification test. It will make you look things up, that you will find very useful to know.
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