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Jed Lilly
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Old post #31 posted Jul 28th 2010, 00:50:14 (last edited Jul 28th 2010, 00:51:59 by Jed Lilly) Quote 
Quote ( Aaron Mullan @ July 28th 2010,00:48:47 )

So it basically is about finding out if ur driver likes understeer or oversteer.



No ,it's more about the track than the driver.
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Old post #32 posted Jul 28th 2010, 00:50:46 Quote 
Track AND car.
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Old post #33 posted Jul 28th 2010, 00:51:23 (last edited Jul 28th 2010, 00:53:16 by Aaron Mullan) Quote 
Right.

Now I'm stumped.

Any help please pm me.


I've always run with the same difference between the wings because I thought that my driver liked it like that.
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Old post #34 posted Jul 28th 2010, 00:52:22 Quote 
Aaron, don't tell me you played 5 seasons without knowing this.
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Old post #35 posted Jul 28th 2010, 00:52:27 Quote 
Quote ( Aaron Mullan @ July 28th 2010,00:51:23 )

Right.

Now I'm stumped.

Any help please pm me.


This might help /forum/ViewTopic.asp?TopicId=15346&Page=1
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Old post #36 posted Jul 28th 2010, 00:54:39 Quote 
Seriously Alin I did not know this. Like I said I've always run the same difference because I thought my driver liked understeer. I need to learn about this.
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Old post #37 posted Jul 28th 2010, 00:55:36 (last edited Jul 28th 2010, 00:56:02 by Goncalo Carvalho) Quote 
Ouch

Ok...it looks like spam...but i was really impressed!
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Old post #38 posted Jul 28th 2010, 00:58:01 Quote 
Aaron, you'll be surprised how much time you can gain by matching the correct wing split !
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Old post #39 posted Jul 28th 2010, 00:58:46 (last edited Jul 28th 2010, 00:59:25 by Aaron Mullan) Quote 
Cheers Jed.


I'm gonna get chatting to my team about this.

Cheers Alin.
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Old post #40 posted Jul 28th 2010, 02:53:49 Quote 
Quote ( Roy Mitchell @ July 27th 2010,23:58:17 )

If you wanted to share your wing split and set up in the last race.


I used +999/-999 as a wingsplit!

And things to take into consideration

Track
Car (certain things with car affect it, shock horror)
Driver ( to a degree)
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Old post #41 posted Jul 28th 2010, 07:42:26 (last edited Jul 28th 2010, 07:42:54 by Al Omar Rajawat) Quote 
Quote ( David Jundt @ July 28th 2010,00:31:42 )

Example:

500 FW, 500 RW = Even Wings

250 FW, 750 RW = Wing Split


i had never tried wingsplit to so much extent....my greatest split had been of 50....can we do split of so much magnitude to get good results??
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Old post #42 posted Jul 28th 2010, 07:43:34 Quote 
Quote ( Al Omar Rajawat @ July 28th 2010,07:42:26 )

i had never tried wingsplit to so much extent....my greatest spli had been of 50....can we do split of so much magntude to get good results??


It can be so high :)
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Old post #43 posted Jul 28th 2010, 07:51:59 Quote 
Quote ( Al Omar Rajawat @ July 28th 2010,07:42:26 )

i had never tried wingsplit to so much extent....my greatest split had been of 50....can we do split of so much magnitude to get good results??
Quote ( Erkki Tempel @ July 28th 2010,07:43:34 )

It can be so high :)

yes. it can b any value.
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Old post #44 posted Jul 28th 2010, 11:17:59 Quote 
Quote ( Elena Fernandez @ July 27th 2010,23:14:58 )

hmm, split? I guess you don't need it, you were the fastest rookie qualifier last race :)

thanks but i need to know how it can be :)
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Old post #45 posted Jul 28th 2010, 11:37:57 Quote 
Quote ( Alin Costrasuc @ July 28th 2010,00:58:01 )

Aaron, you'll be surprised how much time you can gain by matching the correct wing split !

Especially at Mugello
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Old post #46 posted Jul 28th 2010, 11:51:37 Quote 
Quote ( Can Yıldız @ July 28th 2010,11:17:59 )

i need to know how it can be


You won't find the exact answers on this forum, it's the type of thing you have to discuss with your team.
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Old post #47 posted Jul 28th 2010, 12:26:34 (last edited Jul 28th 2010, 12:27:01 by Jezz Bowden) Quote 
Quote ( Michael Winkley @ July 28th 2010,11:37:57 )

Especially at Mugello
Why, especially there? What's unique about it <fish fish> :-))
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Old post #48 posted Jul 28th 2010, 12:28:40 Quote 
Quote ( Jezz Bowden @ July 28th 2010,12:26:34 )

Quote ( Michael Winkley @ July 28th 2010,11:37:57 )

Especially at Mugello
Why, especially there? What's unique about it <fish fish> :-))


Test wing splits next time you're at Mugello and you'll see :-)
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Old post #49 posted Jul 28th 2010, 12:30:35 Quote 
Quote ( Jezz Bowden @ July 28th 2010,12:26:34 )

Why, especially there? What's unique about it <fish fish> :-))
its an old runway
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Old post #50 posted Jul 28th 2010, 12:39:36 Quote 
can anyone tell me that is wingsplit related to oversteer & understeer?& high front+low reer will cause under or oversteer?
(please don't tell me to foby)
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Old post #51 posted Jul 28th 2010, 12:41:52 Quote 
Quote ( Al Omar Rajawat @ July 28th 2010,12:39:36 )

can anyone tell me that is wingsplit related to oversteer & understeer?


up to an extent, yes


Quote ( Al Omar Rajawat @ July 28th 2010,12:39:36 )

& high front+low reer will cause under or oversteer?


just apply logic, give it some serious thought and you'll figure it out :)
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Old post #52 posted Jul 28th 2010, 12:42:06 Quote 
Obviously higher front wing will stick your nose into the corners 'better' good for some tracks and/or drivers.
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Old post #53 posted Jul 28th 2010, 13:08:27 Quote 
thanks...got it
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Old post #54 posted Jul 28th 2010, 13:38:49 Quote 
Quote ( Al Omar Rajawat @ July 28th 2010,07:42:26 )

i had never tried wingsplit to so much extent....my greatest split had been of 50....can we do split of so much magnitude to get good results??


I have seen much higher splits than that with decent results. It's all a matter of setup, do you need more downforce on the front end of your car or the rear?
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Old post #55 posted Jul 28th 2010, 14:14:36 (last edited Jul 28th 2010, 14:16:27 by Michael Winkley) Quote 
Quote ( Kevin Mcferrin @ July 28th 2010,13:38:49 )

I have seen much higher splits than that with decent results.

Quote ( Michael Winkley @ July 28th 2010,11:37:57 )

Quote ( Alin Costrasuc @ July 28th 2010,00:58:01 )

Aaron, you'll be surprised how much time you can gain by matching the correct wing split !

Especially at Mugello

You might want to re-examine the performances of the managers in your group for Q1 of that race, and compare with normal performances. You might find some spectacular differences....you might not.

*try and factor out the rain effects.
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Old post #56 posted Jul 28th 2010, 19:40:45 Quote 
I had an odd experience with wing splits doing my practises today. I had 3 different wing splits for last 3 runs, and they all had exactly the same net time :S

anyone else had this before?
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Old post #57 posted Jul 28th 2010, 19:43:03 Quote 
Quote ( David Craig @ July 28th 2010,19:40:45 )

I had an odd experience with wing splits doing my practises today. I had 3 different wing splits for last 3 runs, and they all had exactly the same net time :S

anyone else had this before?

Your settings for wings are pretty close to the extremities, so this is not unusual.
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Old post #58 posted Jul 28th 2010, 19:49:35 Quote 
Quote ( Michael Winkley @ July 28th 2010,19:43:03 )

Your settings for wings are pretty close to the extremities, so this is not unusual.


i've never had that before in other cases where wings are on there limits :S do you just mean when the wings are very high? or on the limits of the drivers happy range?
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Old post #59 posted Jul 28th 2010, 19:51:40 Quote 
which timing should be conside

total timing or net timing !!!
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Old post #60 posted Jul 28th 2010, 19:52:07 Quote 
Quote ( David Craig @ July 28th 2010,19:40:45 )

net time :S


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