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Gareth Griffiths
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Old post #1 posted Aug 2nd 2016, 16:52:13 Quote 
I pretty often go from the practice screen to the update car page during qualifying.

Causes a minor headache in the fact the car parts are ordered differently.

Would make it slightly easier to list all the parts in the same order on both screens.
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Old post #2 posted Aug 2nd 2016, 17:02:11 Quote 
It would make a major headache if it was changed.
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Old post #3 posted Aug 2nd 2016, 17:09:58 (last edited Aug 2nd 2016, 17:11:05 by Kevin Parkinson) Quote 
Quote ( Jukka Sireni @ August 2nd 2016,17:02:11 )

It would make a major headache if it was changed.


Not for GPRO it wouldn't. :p

For those with tools that automatically pull data or post data to a page, yeah, it could be a pain in the ass (surely shouldn't be that major as wouldn't be that much of a fix if they were re-ordered on the update page only), but I don't think it's the admins job to worry about 3rd party tool functionality and should do what gives the best user interface for a normal user.

I'm sure it's been asked for before though, and nothing came of it. Never understood the point in having them in a different order on the different pages.
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Old post #4 posted Aug 2nd 2016, 17:21:06 Quote 
But after 42 seasons of same order for my brains it would. Tools would be only a minor nuisance.
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Old post #5 posted Aug 2nd 2016, 17:23:06 Quote 
Ha, so you literally mean a headache.

I get why the order on the practice page, always have to think and cross reference to make sure the right parts are upgraded
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Old post #6 posted Aug 2nd 2016, 17:23:49 Quote 
Great suggestion. Never understood why they were different
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Old post #7 posted Aug 2nd 2016, 17:41:32 Quote 
Quote ( Gareth Griffiths @ August 2nd 2016,17:23:06 )

....always have to think and cross reference to make sure the right parts are upgraded


Why even look, or go to Practice page before upgrading/servicing the car?
Shouldn't you decide what part will you change/upgrade according to your season/next race plan and current wear?

Only thing i look before updating car is whether it is raining next race, and even if it is, that rarely change anything in my mind about car update...

Really can't see no big reason to mix those two pages when updating car, and get confused in the process...
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Old post #8 posted Aug 2nd 2016, 18:52:20 Quote 
We use a race tool, and input data from practice screen into a spreadsheet to determine settings. It means that after this, you have to find parts in a different position on the list to know what to update.

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Old post #9 posted Aug 3rd 2016, 13:58:52 Quote 
It is also the same on the testing screen, it is a pain when trying to grab testing stint wear but all I do is cmd (mac) or ctrl (pc) and click home to open a second tab, then I go to the usual Upgrade screen to easily grab what I need while retaining my original tab and settings
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Old post #10 posted Aug 3rd 2016, 14:12:34 Quote 
Quote ( Gareth Griffiths @ August 2nd 2016,18:52:20 )

We use a race tool, and input data from practice screen into a spreadsheet to determine settings. It means that after this, you have to find parts in a different position on the list to know what to update.


Why don't you just update your tool or automate it?
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Old post #11 posted Aug 3rd 2016, 14:39:00 Quote 
Marko by doing that you can lose some data you could have gained.
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Old post #12 posted Aug 3rd 2016, 14:51:49 Quote 
Quote ( Jukka Sireni @ August 2nd 2016,17:21:06 )

But after 42 seasons of same order for my brains it would. Tools would be only a minor nuisance.


but after 42 seasons you still have the same picture.
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Old post #13 posted Aug 3rd 2016, 16:27:10 (last edited Aug 3rd 2016, 16:30:59 by Jukka Sireni) Quote 
Quote ( James Keeble @ August 3rd 2016,14:51:49 )

but after 42 seasons you still have the same picture.


Changing it would also cause a headache.

Also, the pic has been here only for 37 seasons.
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Old post #14 posted Aug 3rd 2016, 17:02:20 Quote 
Quote ( Jukka Sireni @ August 3rd 2016,16:27:10 )

Also, the pic has been here only for 37 seasons.


Jukka's up to date pic...

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Old post #15 posted Aug 3rd 2016, 17:41:25 Quote 
Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ August 2nd 2016,17:09:58 )

For those with tools that automatically pull data or post data to a page, yeah, it could be a pain in the ass (surely shouldn't be that major as wouldn't be that much of a fix if they were re-ordered on the update page only)


If reordering things on a website causes a tool to fail, the creator of that tool is a failure.


Provided that the coding was not changed (just reordered), it shouldn't cause any difference to any program that was done halfway correctly.

In fact, even minor changes to the coding should easily be overlooked.



But your later point stands.... it shouldn't be a consideration to the admins whether or not a change would affect tools.
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Old post #16 posted Aug 3rd 2016, 18:01:21 Quote 
Quote ( Daniel Douglas @ August 3rd 2016,17:41:25 )

If reordering things on a website causes a tool to fail, the creator of that tool is a failure.


At least the tool displays need to get reordered, whether they access gpro or not. And at least our tool grabs data just based on just what is immediately before/after the data, and that is the same for all car parts. So it needs to be reordered too.

But as said, that's only a minor nuisance. The headache caused by brain malfunction may delay the race viewer though.
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Old post #17 posted Aug 3rd 2016, 18:31:45 Quote 
The race analysis page is the same order as Update car.

People have become used to the way things are. Tools can be changed, people don't want to change their habits for nothing.
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Old post #18 posted Dec 11th 2016, 10:27:59 Quote 
Hello

I just made a mistake that I forgot updating some of almost-worn parts while I had already click the Update Car button. Does it means I have to give up and see my car broken at the raceday? Or maybe there's another thing I can do? Thanks :)

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Old post #19 posted Dec 11th 2016, 10:36:37 Quote 
Buy some supporter credits and use ´´undo car update´´ button :)
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