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Roy Rentes
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Old post #1 posted Oct 3rd 2016, 14:10:10 Quote 
Hi all,

Had looked in the newbie guide, the faq and the wiki, but couldn't find this anywhere.

In the last race i had qualified (Q2) faster than someone else, but they started before me on the grid?

Is the starting grid formed by an average of Q1 and Q2 (he qualifed faster than me in Q1), or did i get penalised somehow?
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Old post #2 posted Oct 3rd 2016, 14:11:49 Quote 
Start position is decided by the TOTAL time from Q1 plus Q2
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Old post #3 posted Oct 3rd 2016, 14:12:04 Quote 
The starting order is formed by the sum of Q1 & Q2 times.
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Old post #4 posted Oct 3rd 2016, 14:12:11 Quote 
Sum of Q1 and Q2 defines the starting grid order ;)
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Old post #5 posted Oct 3rd 2016, 14:13:05 Quote 
If you check the starting grid page you'll see that the time shown there placing people on the grid is Q1+Q2.
So not an average but a Q1+Q2 result.
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Old post #6 posted Oct 3rd 2016, 14:14:11 (last edited Oct 3rd 2016, 14:15:12 by Paul Gojkovich) Quote 
yes, it is more than just Q2. Add both Q1 and Q2 together for your start time.

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Old post #7 posted Oct 3rd 2016, 14:14:47 Quote 
Thanking you gentlemen!
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Old post #8 posted Oct 3rd 2016, 22:18:32 Quote 
Quote ( Robin Goodey @ October 3rd 2016,14:11:49 )

Start position is decided by the TOTAL time from Q1 plus Q2
Quote ( Tomek Kiełpiński @ October 3rd 2016,14:12:04 )

The starting order is formed by the sum of Q1 & Q2 times.
Quote ( Miel Soeterbroek @ October 3rd 2016,14:12:11 )

Sum of Q1 and Q2 defines the starting grid order ;)
Quote ( Jody Parker @ October 3rd 2016,14:13:05 )

So not an average but a Q1+Q2 result.
Quote ( Paul Gojkovich @ October 3rd 2016,14:14:11 )

Add both Q1 and Q2 together for your start time.


And finally, just in case it wasn't enough: starting grid is determined by sum of both Q1 and Q2 :DDD
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Old post #9 posted Oct 3rd 2016, 22:29:57 Quote 
well...
this might be a bit off topic...

but, have THIS in mind...

"In case a manager has completed Q1, but didn't manage to complete Q2, he will still be allowed to race, but will start from the back of the grid, using the setup from Q1 and a default fuel load of 80 liters for the first stint."

Vlad. A. Season 39 announcement.
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Old post #10 posted Oct 3rd 2016, 22:33:09 Quote 
What about if the total is exactly the same? What is the tie breaker?
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Old post #11 posted Oct 3rd 2016, 22:35:15 Quote 
Quote ( Jean Chapados @ October 3rd 2016,22:33:09 )

What about if the total is exactly the same? What is the tie breaker?
IIRC, the first one to complete the qualys gets the position ahead.
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Old post #12 posted Oct 4th 2016, 00:51:49 Quote 
In fact I'm almost always the first one to qualify.

Just to get the honour to be in pole position for some time before getting demolished :p
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Old post #13 posted May 9th 2017, 02:24:34 Quote 
Q2 in Rookie (of 1869 qualified -> 30.51%)
# Manager name Nat Group Lap time
1 A. Tartampion R102 2:09.768s
2 L. Luís R79 + 1.217s
3 F. Aguirre R138 + 1.530s
4 R. Van Saarloos R79 + 1.931s
5 R. Campos R25 + 2.078s
6 L. Bertani R117 + 2.223s
7 S. Siletto R127 + 2.256s
8 K. Dudekov R60 + 2.353s
9 J. Ankjær R98 + 2.396s
10 Ž. Markulin R10 + 2.417s
• • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • •
1877 D. Ihtiyar R45 + 1:04.157s
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Old post #14 posted May 9th 2017, 05:09:19 Quote 
Quote ( Dylan Ihtiyar @ May 9th 2017,02:24:34 )

Q2 in Rookie (of 1869 qualified -> 30.51%)
# Manager name Nat Group Lap time
1 A. Tartampion R102 2:09.768s
2 L. Luís R79 + 1.217s
3 F. Aguirre R138 + 1.530s
4 R. Van Saarloos R79 + 1.931s
5 R. Campos R25 + 2.078s
6 L. Bertani R117 + 2.223s
7 S. Siletto R127 + 2.256s
8 K. Dudekov R60 + 2.353s
9 J. Ankjær R98 + 2.396s
10 Ž. Markulin R10 + 2.417s
• • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • •
1877 D. Ihtiyar R45 + 1:04.157s


Are you trying to retain?
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Old post #15 posted May 9th 2017, 07:20:30 Quote 
Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ May 7th 2017,08:14:01 )

I'll put it in other words


Q1+Q2=Grid Position ;)
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Old post #16 posted May 9th 2017, 07:32:31 Quote 
Quote ( Tomek Kiełpiński @ October 3rd 2016,14:12:04 )

The starting order is formed by the sum of Q1 & Q2 times.


Although this is the correct answers since the time shown in the grid

Quote ( Roy Rentes @ October 3rd 2016,14:10:10 )

Is the starting grid formed by an average of Q1 and Q2


Is not wrong either, averaging Q1 and Q2 will give you the same grid (albeit the time shown would be halved). So technically it is also correct to say that the average of Q1 and Q2 will give you the grid.
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Old post #17 posted May 9th 2017, 09:26:46 Quote 
I think what Dylan is trying to say is there is a little bug because he is qualified 8 places lower than the total of people qualified.
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Old post #18 posted May 9th 2017, 16:15:28 (last edited May 9th 2017, 16:17:06 by Dylan Ihtiyar) Quote 
Indeed SYlvain, and yes i am trying to retain this driver

even worse now

Q1+Q2 in Rookie (of 2510 qualified)
# Manager name Nat Group Lap time
1 A. Tartampion R102 4:18.608s
2 R. Van Saarloos R79 + 1.871s
3 R. Campos R25 + 2.040s
4 Ž. Markulin R10 + 2.463s
5 F. Aguirre R138 + 2.814s
6 S. Ricciuto R11 + 2.840s
7 C. Lee R109 + 2.889s
8 P. Morgado R2 + 3.084s
9 D. Vieira R20 + 3.084s
10 L. Bertani R117 + 3.103s
• • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • •
2521 D. Ihtiyar R45 + 2:02.883s
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Old post #19 posted May 9th 2017, 16:57:50 Quote 
Quote ( Sylvain Elsass @ May 9th 2017,09:26:46 )


I think what Dylan is trying to say is there is a little bug because he is qualified 8 places lower than the total of people qualified.


Maybe some of them have been already disqualified? ;-)
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