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Jasper Coosemans1
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Old post #1 posted Jan 20th 2017, 15:11:22 Quote 
Suggestion: New players get to pay equal salaries to their first (randomly assigned) driver.

Reason: Currently, some players have a handicap of several millions when they start their career, just because their first driver was both crap and expensive to get rid of.

Background: Every new player is assigned a random driver when they first start playing. It can be a good one or (usually) a bad one, it depends on your luck, and that's OK in my opinion. When you're new, you need to learn about what is important and what isn't, so starting with a poor driver can actually help learning.

The salary is a different thing. You won't learn anything from having an expensive driver, so there are no positives here. If your driver is bad, you need to boot him anyway. I don't see why one manager should pay 5 million to do that while another pays 3.

So I suggest a standard salary of, say, $700k for a first ever driver. Shouldn't be too hard to implement and it creates a more level playing field, which I believe Rookie is meant to be about.

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Old post #2 posted Jan 20th 2017, 15:14:29 Quote 
Sounds like a decent idea to me
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Old post #3 posted Jan 20th 2017, 15:19:23 (last edited Jan 20th 2017, 15:19:34 by Stuart Foster) Quote 
Yeah, I certainly think no newbie should be forced to pay over the 1 million per race that the newbie/wiki guide suggests as being 'ideal'.

Good idea.
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Old post #4 posted Jan 20th 2017, 15:23:21 Quote 
It makes a lot of sense.

Great idea Jasper.
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Old post #5 posted Jan 20th 2017, 15:24:44 Quote 
Since the drivers are randomly selected i think for the first driver in rookie should be free to get rid of, if they are yet to compete in a race. For example im £5m down just because i had to get rid of a crap randomly assigned driver.
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Old post #6 posted Jan 20th 2017, 15:40:26 Quote 
Quote ( Adam Young @ January 20th 2017,15:24:44 )

Since the drivers are randomly selected i think for the first driver in rookie should be free to get rid of, if they are yet to compete in a race. For example im £5m down just because i had to get rid of a crap randomly assigned driver.


That also sounds like a good idea, but maybe without the restriction that it should be before the first race. Why punish a new player for wanting to experiment with his first driver? Also, some new players may miss the first driver market when they join, or just be overbid.

But yes I agree, simply getting rid of the 'booting fee' for the first driver would also solve most of the problem. Then if you happen to be unlucky and get an expensive driver, it's still your own free choice to keep him or not so it's your own fault for overpaying the driver.
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Old post #7 posted Jan 20th 2017, 15:48:43 Quote 
Keep in mind that "punishment" for getting expensive random driver is just short term, because of the rookie reset at the end of the season, and many newbies join mid season, too... So, given that a true newbie is best served staying in rookie for at least next full season, then the "punishment" is not that big deal...

Good idea, though...
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Old post #8 posted Jan 20th 2017, 15:54:06 Quote 
why not extend the equal salary to equal (poor) driver attributes? That way no-one has any advantage.
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Old post #9 posted Jan 20th 2017, 15:59:42 Quote 
I'm not sure rookie default drivers' salaries do vary all that much anyway, do they?

All the ones I've noticed come in between $800k and $1.1m. And you do get a 10-race $1m sponsor to help pay for it.
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Old post #10 posted Jan 20th 2017, 16:07:15 Quote 
Quote ( Andrew Watson @ January 20th 2017,15:59:42 )

I'm not sure rookie default drivers' salaries do vary all that much anyway, do they?

All the ones I've noticed come in between $800k and $1.1m. And you do get a 10-race $1m sponsor to help pay for it.


I can't pretend I kept statistics, but this player in my group has his first driver for $320k: /gb/ManagerProfile.asp?IDM=834982

I'm not bothered because he isn't racing anyway, and I have no clue how common it is (maybe this is just a huge exception), but it does go to show it's not always between $800k and $1.1M.
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Old post #11 posted Jan 20th 2017, 16:11:42 Quote 
Fair enough - I think it's a fairly consistently around $800 to $1.1m for those joining the game at the start of a season. A bit different when they join during a season perhaps.
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Old post #12 posted Jan 20th 2017, 16:23:40 Quote 
/gb/DriverProfile.asp?ID=22342

This driver is 1.5mil per race and his OA is 51. And he weighs 100kg
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Old post #13 posted Jan 20th 2017, 16:54:04 Quote 
An even playing field? Sounds like a great idea!
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Old post #14 posted Jan 20th 2017, 17:05:26 Quote 
Two thumbs up.
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Old post #15 posted Jan 20th 2017, 17:11:31 Quote 
Quote ( Neil Mulvey @ January 20th 2017,16:23:40 )

/gb/DriverProfile.asp?ID=22342

This driver is 1.5mil per race and his OA is 51. And he weighs 100kg

Decent price/kg!
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Old post #16 posted Jan 20th 2017, 17:12:35 Quote 
If we're going to do that then we might as well make them a reasonable salary as well. Instead of them paying close to $1 million per race for a driver, perhaps having it close to $500k seems a better plan? If someone is stuck with a crap driver at $1 million/race then they might get the impression that a good driver should cost even more, when no Rookie driver is worth anywhere near that.
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Old post #17 posted Jan 20th 2017, 17:36:36 Quote 
Quote ( Neil Mulvey @ January 20th 2017,16:23:40 )

/gb/DriverProfile.asp?ID=22342

This driver is 1.5mil per race and his OA is 51. And he weighs 100kg

His manager has been playing the game for about 30 seasons though !
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Old post #18 posted Jan 20th 2017, 17:46:16 Quote 
Quote ( Andrew Watson @ January 20th 2017,17:36:36 )

Quote ( Neil Mulvey @ January 20th 2017,16:23:40 )

/gb/DriverProfile.asp?ID=22342

This driver is 1.5mil per race and his OA is 51. And he weighs 100kg
His manager has been playing the game for about 30 seasons though !


And given the one race contract, 99% for sure, that isn't your 'normally' assigned rookie driver, but instead one that he picked up due to not getting a bid accepted in the two markets.
So not a valid comparison.
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