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Postim i vjeter #91 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 04:26:55 (Së fundi edituar 4 Shtator 2009, 04:27:26 nga Rick Cortese) Citim 
Gilberto, I think the word "free" in you original post has confused many. I think your idea has been lost in the translation to English.

I think you mean that it still will cost to upgrade or test, just that you don't want it to be limited to once between races right?

So if I want to upgrade 3 levels I will not have to wait 3 races. It will cost me an arm and a leg to do it, but that's the money management strategy kicking in there right?

In that sense I think the idea has merit for consideration.

As for the following quote,
Quote ( Gilberto Francisco @ September 3rd 2009,20:05:29 )

for some reason they have 70 million ... and the others don't

well that's no accident. That's the result of tough money management strategy occurring over many seasons of races.
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Postim i vjeter #92 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 05:34:28 Citim 

Gilberto, tem certeza de sua idéia significa exatamente o mesmo em Inglês como em Português?

eng.> Gilberto are you sure your idea means exactly the same in English as in Portuguese?

In your original post it confused me - the last part sounds contradictory.

>>" So why not free to use them if you have the money."<<

Just trying to help if it's a language difference. But if it means just what everyone else understands... well I tend to agree $$$ is apart of the game just as in life.
Try to say to your landlord - Why is my flat not free to live in, if I have the money?

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Postim i vjeter #93 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 07:23:28 Citim 
I have one basic question. Multiple testing runs inbetween a race. Are there players that are just so overloaded with GPro money that they can't manage to spend it all?
_ __ __ _ _ ___ _ _

And people, the suggestion isn't that bad to start calling the person suggesting it names. Shame on you & it's only highlighting a deficiency on your part.
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Postim i vjeter #94 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 07:44:11 Citim 
Limited to upgrades is the way i should be, testing is fine the way it is....

What i would like to see is an increase in driver trainning, say be able to train a driver 3 times inbetween races, not just once, couse once does crap all in my opinun...
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Postim i vjeter #95 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 07:53:03 Citim 
to upgades is once time in a race but testing ,when you want, can do that!
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Postim i vjeter #96 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 07:58:16 Citim 
Quote ( Fatjol Lamçja @ September 4th 2009,07:53:03 )

but testing ,when you want, can do that!


exactly, i think 10 stints / 100 laps is prenty of testing inbetween races, since the most i've ever done was 55 for race 1, then 15 after race 1... its more then enough
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Postim i vjeter #97 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 11:01:48 (Së fundi edituar 4 Shtator 2009, 11:03:31 nga Peter Holy) Citim 
Quote ( Samoeni Albanalopolis @ September 4th 2009,01:19:00 )

Testing and Upgrading all the time would be unfair to some managers with Low Cash.


No, quite the opposite. This would help those low in cash, because they could use up their parts in testing more efficiently.

Quote ( Michael Whitley @ September 4th 2009,03:56:43 )

However if this idea was to be implemented, they'd both be exactly the same.


Of course, both examples would be the same. So? ;) There´s still one problem with this trick of downgrade before testing and upgrade after it. You can only use it effectivelly when your wearing is very high. When your wearing is low or middle it makes no sense to use it, because you simply gain nothing with it. So the question is: When you make, say, 8 testings per season, how many times are you testing with high wearing parts? I´d say 1, 2, perhaps 3 times. So, realistically you can gain some 100 testing laps per season with this idea implemented. Not really a huge change. So instead of 800, you could do 900 laps, a gain of mere 12%.

Quote ( Michael Whitley @ September 4th 2009,03:56:43 )

You'd be rather surprised just how important it is to manage your part wear if you want to be testing throughout the season. :)


I would be not ;). I had the crazy idea of testing in my 3 season(Amateur - group). I tested so much that I gained one extra car lvl through car points at the end of the season. Without TD and facilities ;). So you got the idea how much I was testing. I know very well how expensive testing is, this is why I think this idea is good, because you could use up your car parts a bit more efficiently ;)

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Postim i vjeter #98 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 11:03:35 Citim 
Why change / fix something when it isnt broken???

no from me.
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Postim i vjeter #99 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 11:09:18 (Së fundi edituar 4 Shtator 2009, 11:09:32 nga Peter Holy) Citim 
Quote ( Paul Whittle @ September 4th 2009,11:03:35 )

Why change / fix something when it isnt broken???


And how about changing for improvement? You only change your mobile phone/PC/notebook/car .... when it´s broken?
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Postim i vjeter #100 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 11:09:32 Citim 
Quote ( Peter Holy @ September 4th 2009,11:01:48 )

No, quite the opposite. This would help those low in cash, because they could use up their parts in testing more efficiently.
A good car is nothing without a good driver.Testing wont help at all.

And Low Cash I mean those with 15 million and less.

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Postim i vjeter #101 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 11:11:36 Citim 
Quote ( Samoeni Albanalopolis @ September 4th 2009,11:09:32 )

A good car is nothing without a good driver.


Of course I agree with it, Samoeni, but I guess in higher groups most of players have good drivers so testing and higher car lvl do help ;)
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Postim i vjeter #102 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 11:14:47 Citim 
Quote ( Peter Holy @ September 4th 2009,11:11:36 )

so testing and higher car lvl do help ;)
Totally agree to you.

But the genereal idea of Gilberto is Testing as many times we want and upgrade in the same time :)
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Postim i vjeter #103 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 11:22:08 Citim 
Quote ( Peter Holy @ September 4th 2009,11:09:18 )

And how about changing for improvement?

This isn't an improvement, it makes the game way too easy.
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Postim i vjeter #104 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 11:25:03 Citim 
Samoeni:

As I understand he doesnt want more testing laps, he only wants the possibility of doing more upgrades/downgrades between races than only once as it´s now.

Thomas:

Gaining some 100 extra testing laps per season would make it way to easy???





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Postim i vjeter #105 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 11:31:32 Citim 
Quote ( Peter Holy @ September 4th 2009,11:25:03 )


Gaining some 100 extra testing laps per season would make it way to easy???

Absolutely. A shortcut to a better car simply.
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Postim i vjeter #106 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 11:44:03 Citim 
All right Thomas, I respect your point. Still, I dont see how gaining some extra 100 testing laps per season could significantly alter the gameplay, though ;)
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Postim i vjeter #107 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 11:49:31 Citim 
Quote ( Peter Holy @ September 4th 2009,11:44:03 )

All right Thomas, I respect your point. Still, I dont see how gaining some extra 100 testing laps per season could significantly alter the gameplay, though ;)


100 Laps more = better car
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Postim i vjeter #108 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 12:03:48 Citim 
Quote ( Michael Pollard @ September 4th 2009,11:49:31 )

100 Laps more = better car


Thanks, Michael, I wouldnt figure it out myself ;). So?
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Postim i vjeter #109 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 12:13:48 Citim 
Quote ( Peter Holy @ September 4th 2009,12:03:48 )


Thanks, Michael, I wouldnt figure it out myself ;). So?


Is it that hard to work out?

Better car = faster times


I would rather not see rookies with level 15cars thankyou very much.
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Postim i vjeter #110 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 12:14:21 (Së fundi edituar 4 Shtator 2009, 12:17:58 nga Gilberto Francisco) Citim 
In terms of strategy i think its a benefict ....

on the other hand ... if u guys tell me its far easy to gather data ..and crack formulas ... well then u got a point there.

But this ideia would make money managment allot more dificult to "some" players.

(some peolple dont wast more menoy because they can't)

Some people could blow the budget in one race, that the price u have to pay.

Some say that guys with top groups would take advantage of this...

well parts are way more expensive in top groups.

And maybe guys in top groups have allot of money ...because they dont have much options to spend it.

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Postim i vjeter #111 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 12:21:47 Citim 
Quote ( Michael Pollard @ September 4th 2009,12:13:48 )

I would rather not see rookies with level 15cars thankyou very much.


Neither would me, but what does that have to do with this suggestion??? Have you read the whole thread???, because the initial post is rather misleading.
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Postim i vjeter #112 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 12:22:05 Citim 
Quote ( Peter Holy @ September 4th 2009,11:25:03 )

Samoeni:

As I understand he doesnt want more testing laps, he only wants the possibility of doing more upgrades/downgrades between races than only once as it´s now
Quote ( Thomas Lindgren @ September 4th 2009,11:22:08 )

it makes the game way too easy.
Game would be easy.That's all Peter :)
Quote ( Gilberto Francisco @ September 4th 2009,12:14:21 )

And maybe guys in top groups have allot of money ...because they dont have much options to spend it.
Why would they spend their money?

After all money in Gpro is key to victory,right?
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Postim i vjeter #113 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 12:24:40 Citim 
Quote ( Joe Manifold @ September 3rd 2009,20:04:31 )

No. Some people who have about $70 million or more can upgrade as many times as they like until they are either negative/just about positive.

I don't see why they shouldn't if they have thae money . Same goes for testing.
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Postim i vjeter #114 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 12:34:30 Citim 
Just to clarify some misunderstanding that some people think ...

(maybe because of bad english)

When i say Race Testing/Car Upgrade free to everyone ,

i mean you could do as much testing and upgrade between races as you want as long as your budget would permit it!

Hope that clarify the topic

Thanks
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Postim i vjeter #115 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 12:37:50 Citim 
I agree with my brother. that means i agree with u. So does my brother.
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Postim i vjeter #116 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 13:26:23 Citim 
Quote ( Gilberto Francisco @ September 4th 2009,12:34:30 )

(...) you could do as much testing and upgrade between races as you want as long as your budget would permit (...)

Again, this favours the wealthy managers so, no No NO!
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Postim i vjeter #117 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 14:32:43 Citim 
Quote ( António Rebelo @ September 4th 2009,13:26:23 )


Quote ( Gilberto Francisco @ September 4th 2009,12:34:30 )

(...) you could do as much testing and upgrade between races as you want as long as your budget would permit (...)

Again, this favours the wealthy managers so, no No NO!


Why are they wealthy first of all?

Maybe because they have good money managment

i dont get the point ...

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Postim i vjeter #118 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 14:37:18 Citim 
Well, when managers are wealthy (about over $50 million or over $70 million or higher), then they can upgrade twice, unfair to the managers who can only upgrade once.
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Postim i vjeter #119 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 15:00:29 Citim 
Quote ( Paul Whittle @ September 4th 2009,11:03:35 )

Why change / fix something when it isnt broken???

no from me.


Touché!!!
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Postim i vjeter #120 Postuar 4 Shtator 2009, 15:15:40 Citim 
Quote ( Paul Whittle @ September 4th 2009,11:03:35 )

Why change / fix something when it isnt broken???

Ditto.
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