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Postim i vjeter #1 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 13:47:12 Citim 
Is there anyone but me that would like this ?

i would like to have a choice between go in
to pit when the fuel is not enought for one more lap

and when the tyres starts to go bad ...around 18 %wear

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Postim i vjeter #2 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 13:48:29 Citim 
nope.

that would remove the point of data collection. It is up to you to know when your tyres will go bad with the consideration of the variables.

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Postim i vjeter #3 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 13:48:58 Citim 
another suggestion to make the game easier I see...
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Postim i vjeter #4 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 13:49:33 Citim 
you can easily calculate when the tyres are going to start graining. Which means you can also easily figure out how much fuel you need to put in so that the tyres don't grain.
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Postim i vjeter #5 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 13:51:23 Citim 
what Sion said pretty much sums it.
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Postim i vjeter #6 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 14:14:37 Citim 
Quote ( Sion Francis @ March 21st 2010,13:48:58 )

another suggestion to make the game easier I see...

Or more real.
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Postim i vjeter #7 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 14:27:14 (Së fundi edituar 21 Mars 2010, 14:29:11 nga James Veazey) Citim 
Great idea...but i wouldn't like it...in fact now that i think about it, this game needs NO CHANGE..I don't want to have to get used to something different, i am now just getting decent at this game =D..


There have been times when i wished i would go ahead and pit other than have bad lap times, when my tyres are under 15% and i dont have to worry about not finishing the race...
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Postim i vjeter #8 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 14:34:54 Citim 
Basically what you are saying is that so far in your GPRO career you have been particularly bad at your race strategy. My advice is to you is to store your data efficiently, and analyse it as much as you can. You will produce plenty of usable data, but the secret is in how to make good use of it. Making mistakes is what will drive you to future successes. You will learn, as everyone that plays GPRO is continuing to do so.
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Postim i vjeter #9 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 14:39:21 Citim 
Quote ( James Veazey @ March 21st 2010,14:27:14 )

this game needs NO CHANGE..I don't want to have to get used to something different, i am now just getting decent at this game =D..
Quote ( Michael Winkley @ March 21st 2010,14:34:54 )

Basically what you are saying is that so far in your GPRO career you have been particularly bad at your race strategy. My advice is to you is to store your data efficiently, and analyse it as much as you can. You will produce plenty of usable data, but the secret is in how to make good use of it.


lol. true.

I'd go as far as to say neither of you are on the right track, not just yet anyway.... keep collecting that data boys and get yourselves into amateur, then revise your posts.

:P
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Postim i vjeter #10 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 14:52:56 Citim 
Quote ( Laura Kerly @ March 21st 2010,14:39:21 )

keep collecting that data boys and get yourselves into amateur, then revise your posts.

I'm sure my team would say otherwise, and maybe even Laila Brittale and Mark Webster. You could always ask them ;)
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Postim i vjeter #11 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 14:56:09 (Së fundi edituar 21 Mars 2010, 15:26:53 nga Mikko Heikkinen) Citim 
Quote ( Stefan Nordqvist @ March 21st 2010,13:47:12 )


i would like to have a choice between go in
to pit when the fuel is not enought for one more lap

and when the tyres starts to go bad ...around 18 %wear


and when you mess up that one by still having 30% fuel and tyres are at 18% you'll start asking for more options to prevent pitting ?

Pretty soon there would be a jungle of options which would become quite tiresome and potentially confusing, specially to beginners.


The current system is very good. It's simple yet effective.

There are thousands of managers able to make their strategies in a way that it does just what you are wishing for (pitting for fuel when tyres are at/close to 15-18%)


Maybe you just need to step up to the challenge. That's how it's supposed to be if you want to promote higher.
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Postim i vjeter #12 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 14:58:14 Citim 
I think for now the game is good...don´t need changes.
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Postim i vjeter #13 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 15:01:48 Citim 
Quote ( David Shoobridge @ March 21st 2010,13:48:29 )

that would remove the point of data collection. It is up to you to know when your tyres will go bad with the consideration of the variables.


I agree
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Postim i vjeter #14 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 15:05:25 Citim 
This could easily be dont with data collection. Whats the point of adding this. People have been collecting data 10 - 11 seasons, implenting this feature would make that data collection no use
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Postim i vjeter #15 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 15:12:14 Citim 
nope no need for it
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Postim i vjeter #16 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 18:47:23 Citim 
It would be quite amusing to see OP screwing because his new idea forced him to pit 1 lap earlier than hoped for, resulting in an extra unnecessary pit stop on penultimate lap ;)
Jimmy Saville, you can stay away from this one ;)
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Postim i vjeter #17 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 19:51:07 Citim 
Quote ( Michael Winkley @ March 21st 2010,18:47:23 )

It would be quite amusing to see OP screwing because his new idea forced him to pit 1 lap earlier than hoped for, resulting in an extra unnecessary pit stop on penultimate lap ;)
Jimmy Saville, you can stay away from this one ;)


no no no,

because there would also be the "Don't pit at end of race if I got enough fuel and tyres to reach the end even if <18% wear" option you can use
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Postim i vjeter #18 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 19:57:18 (Së fundi edituar 21 Mars 2010, 19:59:05 nga Mikko Heikkinen) Citim 
Quote ( David Shoobridge @ March 21st 2010,19:51:07 )

because there would also be the "Don't pit at end of race if I got enough fuel and tyres to reach the end even if <18% wear" option you can use


well ofc :)

and

if x < z + q^2 then pit, unless t > z - (r + v) in which case wait X laps, unless it's raining, in which case goto line 101

/s
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Postim i vjeter #19 Postuar 21 Mars 2010, 20:13:10 Citim 
We're getting closer to the "magically set and confirm the best strategy" button :)
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Postim i vjeter #20 Postuar 2 Mars 2011, 17:51:27 Citim 
what about a option to choose what lap to pit on or when tyres or fuel are done which ever comes first, this way the people that collect all the data and do all the calculation are still going to have the advantage of running with low fuel at the end of a stint so getting good lap times ect, but for the people that dont have the time or just can't do the calculation can still set there pit stops even if it means they are running heavy with fuel at the end of the stint and not being able to take advantage of a light car.

its just a thought, but no doubt there will be a load of replies to advise anyone that for whatever reason cant study and calculate all the data just how dumb they are
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Postim i vjeter #21 Postuar 2 Mars 2011, 17:57:26 Citim 
Quote ( Paul Hobson @ March 2nd 2011,17:51:27 )

what about a option to choose what lap to pit on or when tyres or fuel are done which ever comes first,


So you tell the strategy to pit on lap 23 (for sake of argument) and your fuel runs out lap 20. Do you pit again lap 23 because that is when you forced the pitstop ?

If your second pitstop was set to lap 46 would that get auto changed to lap 43 (because you already pitted 3 laps early) or left as it was?

What if you had a random that caused an extra pitstop early in a stint, how would that be treated?

Granted, you could have a box that says that if you havent stopped for your first pitstop by lap 22 then pit on lap 23 whatever your tyres & fuel etc etc, but there are so many other things effecting that, that it almost becomes worthless anyway.
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Postim i vjeter #22 Postuar 2 Mars 2011, 17:59:32 (Së fundi edituar 2 Mars 2011, 18:00:32 nga Jon Day) Citim 
Quote ( David Shoobridge @ March 21st 2010,13:48:29 )

that would remove the point of data collection.
totaly agree with you David. it would take a lot of "skill" out of the game.

leave it well alone. its a great game as it is.
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Postim i vjeter #23 Postuar 2 Mars 2011, 18:00:06 Citim 
Why are we trying to make the game easier?
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Postim i vjeter #24 Postuar 2 Mars 2011, 18:01:17 Citim 
Quote ( Jon Day @ March 2nd 2011,17:59:32 )

Quote ( David Shoobridge @ March 21st 2010,13:48:29 )

that would remove the point of data collection.
totaly agree with you David. it would take a lot of "skill" out of the game.


well played on replying to a year old post :D
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Postim i vjeter #25 Postuar 2 Mars 2011, 18:07:21 Citim 
thank you, still think its the best point made from the whole thread. :)

...Gordons Alive !!! :D
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Postim i vjeter #26 Postuar 2 Mars 2011, 18:10:09 Citim 
He's had a hair transplant......no longer ginger......now he's strawberry-blonde.
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Postim i vjeter #27 Postuar 2 Mars 2011, 18:14:05 Citim 
Quote ( Michael Winkley @ March 2nd 2011,18:10:09 )

now he's strawberry-blonde.
me?
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Postim i vjeter #28 Postuar 2 Mars 2011, 18:15:12 Citim 
Gordon Bennett.
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Postim i vjeter #29 Postuar 2 Mars 2011, 18:17:31 Citim 
Quote ( Michael Winkley @ March 2nd 2011,18:15:12 )

Gordon Bennett.
oh ok. talking of old racing drivers you cant beat "Dick Seamen" for a drivers name :)
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Postim i vjeter #30 Postuar 2 Mars 2011, 19:28:28 Citim 
Quote ( Jon Day @ March 2nd 2011,18:17:31 )

talking of old racing drivers you cant beat "Dick Seamen" for a drivers name :)

Don't know about him but I have a few that will make a sailor blush...

Back on topic:
I totally disagree with an option when to pit, I failed to see the point in where will bring any improvement into the game play.
The only improvement I see is to make the game easier, and more simple to manage. where this game is meant to be a managing game and not a racing game only.
Strategies will be more simple or less complicated, and I think that would be fine for other game not GPRO.
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