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Postim i vjeter #31 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:44:05 (Së fundi edituar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:45:26 nga Sebastian Cucciardi) Citim 
Quote ( Chris Anello @ October 20th 2011,16:40:12 )

I would say 99%. It's like the Bin Laden thing. I wasn't sure about him, and so do i now. I think it's too strange that they killed them without asking (with tortures, i mean) some questions.


In Bin Laden death there was no videos in Gaddafi's death some videos already show it's clearly him, still need to wait for DNA tests etc ...
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Postim i vjeter #32 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:44:37 Citim 
Quote ( Michael Keeney @ October 20th 2011,16:41:57 )

Fantastic news, Now we need rid of them Somalian pirates and the world will be a more peaceful place :)


Ahmedinejad, Jong-il, Assad, Mugabe, Putin and more, there's a long way to go.
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Postim i vjeter #33 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:46:49 Citim 
Quote ( Jack Wemyss @ October 20th 2011,16:43:45 )

I don't know what those games are, but if there is a winner, then it is political, in the sense that a winner must be decided by conflict, and the process of the game is the resolution of the conflict.

Oh, i misunderstood your post. Sorry
Quote ( Sebastian Cucciardi @ October 20th 2011,16:44:05 )

In Bin Laden death there was no videos in Gaddafi's death some videos already show it's clearly him, still need to wait for DNA tests etc ...

They can say that, even after DNA tests, he's Gaddafi. But i won't believe it unless i see him there dead.
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Postim i vjeter #34 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:47:16 Citim 
Quote ( Jack Wemyss @ October 20th 2011,16:44:37 )

Ahmedinejad, Jong-il, Assad, Mugabe, Wemyss, Putin and more, there's a long way to go.


Corrected ;)
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Postim i vjeter #35 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:48:22 (Së fundi edituar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:48:47 nga Sebastian Cucciardi) Citim 
Quote ( Chris Anello @ October 20th 2011,16:46:49 )

They can say that, even after DNA tests, he's Gaddafi. But i won't believe it unless i see him there dead.


Just watch BBC or CNN news or any other news you can watch about Gaddafi he's covered in blood in the video
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Postim i vjeter #36 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:48:34 (Së fundi edituar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:49:53 nga Daneks Britāls) Citim 
R.I.P. :(

Quote ( Jack Wemyss @ October 20th 2011,16:44:37 )

Ahmedinejad, Jong-il, Assad, Mugabe, Putin and more, there's a long way to go.


start with bolded please
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Postim i vjeter #37 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:48:36 (Së fundi edituar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:49:34 nga Chris Anello) Citim 
Quote ( Jack Wemyss @ October 20th 2011,16:44:37 )

Ahmedinejad, Jong-il, Assad, Mugabe, Putin and more, there's a long way to go.

Don't forget Yakuza, Cosa Nostra...
They are dangerous, too.
Quote ( Sebastian Cucciardi @ October 20th 2011,16:48:22 )

Just watch BBC or CNN news or any other news you can watch about Gaddafi he's covered in blood XD

Nah. I didn't mean that.
I meant "unless i go there in Libya and see him dead" ;)
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Postim i vjeter #38 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:49:15 Citim 
obviously americans assainated him to stop him exposing them as idiots, liars, and self inflicting dipsticks
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Postim i vjeter #39 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:49:45 Citim 
what about Sarkozy d(e)ad, then?
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Postim i vjeter #40 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:49:48 Citim 
Quote ( Laila Britāle @ October 20th 2011,16:48:34 )

R.I.P. :(


Wow this really sums you up. I wont even say what I want too as it will lead to this being closed but your an idiot. The world is clearly a better place without him. Enough said
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Postim i vjeter #41 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:50:02 Citim 
Quote ( Mike Schofield @ October 20th 2011,16:49:15 )

obviously americans assainated him to stop him exposing them as idiots, liars, and self inflicting dipsticks

They would have done that earlier if that was the problem.
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Postim i vjeter #42 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:51:06 Citim 
Wow. 2 Evil Men dead in a year (Gaddafi and Binladen), the world is really getting their act together...

Quote ( Michael Keeney @ October 20th 2011,16:49:48 )

Wow this really sums you up. I wont even say what I want too as it will lead to this being closed but your an idiot. The world is clearly a better place without him. Enough said
+1
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Postim i vjeter #43 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:51:50 Citim 
Quote ( Michael Keeney @ October 20th 2011,16:41:57 )

Fantastic news


I revel in no man's death.
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Postim i vjeter #44 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:52:45 Citim 
Quote ( Chris Lee @ October 20th 2011,16:51:50 )

I revel in no man's death.


Good point but when others are dying then my viewpoint changes. Sorry
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Postim i vjeter #45 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:53:40 Citim 
Quote ( Michael Keeney @ October 20th 2011,16:52:45 )

Good point but when others are dying then my viewpoint changes. Sorry


Then bring him to trial and let him answer for his crimes. Death is the easy way out... For both sides.
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Postim i vjeter #46 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:53:46 Citim 
this world would be a better place without USA
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Postim i vjeter #47 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:54:44 Citim 
Quote ( Jordan Randall @ October 20th 2011,16:51:06 )

Wow. 2 Evil Men dead in a year (Gaddafi and Binladen), the world is really getting their act together...


Of course. Local terrorists is dead...While Putin&co still have nuclear bombs...Western communities is too slow, too lazy and too scared to get rid of real danger...nothing new :)

Live in your world of rose eyeglasses and be happy :)
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Postim i vjeter #48 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:54:44 Citim 
at least maggie thatcher is still alive!
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Postim i vjeter #49 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:55:36 (Së fundi edituar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:56:44 nga Heite Schaumann) Citim 
Quote ( Mike Schofield @ October 20th 2011,16:53:46 )

this world would be a better place without humans

fixed ;)
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Postim i vjeter #50 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:56:42 Citim 
USA, another Nazi country..trying to rule the world, no difference at all..
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Postim i vjeter #51 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 16:59:56 (Së fundi edituar 20 Tetor 2011, 17:02:59 nga Chris Anello) Citim 
Quote ( Laila Britāle @ October 20th 2011,16:54:44 )

Of course. Local terrorists is dead...While Putin&co still have nuclear bombs...Western communities is too slow, too lazy and too scared to get rid of real danger...nothing new :)

Do you think that they should say:
"Hey, we're a bit bored. How about starting a war with Russia?"
No, i prefer staying in actual situation than losing a lot of lives.
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Postim i vjeter #52 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 17:04:49 (Së fundi edituar 20 Tetor 2011, 17:26:35 nga Ivan Salfa) Citim 
Quote ( Michael Keeney @ October 20th 2011,16:49:48 )

The world is clearly a better place without him. Enough said


Under this pretext, leaders convince you to aprove and vote, for or against a war, even an assasination..
Good & bad, good & evil.. There is no 'real' right or wrong man.
Everithing depends on whitch side of the fence you are sitting,
and what elements have formed your moral world order.
A deep and very complex issue.
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Postim i vjeter #53 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 17:05:12 Citim 
Uncle Gordon will be here any minute now
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Postim i vjeter #54 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 17:06:46 Citim 
Libyan Prime Minister Mahmoud Jibril has told a news conference Col Gaddafi is dead, it is confirmed.

Hope the new government will do a better job in controlling Libya
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Postim i vjeter #55 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 17:07:33 Citim 
It always seems pretty distateful to me the delight so many take in the death of guys like Gaddafi, Bin Laden etc.

You can argue all day that "they had it coming" or "the world is a better place", but that isn't how the free world should be doing its shit. And revelling in their deaths plays out as an unpleasent reflection of just the sort of behaviour we condemn when the situations are, in some way, reversed (think 9/11).
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Postim i vjeter #56 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 17:08:14 Citim 
Quote ( Ivan Salfa @ October 20th 2011,17:04:49 )

There is no 'real' right or wrong man.


Rest of your post is pretty accurate, but that comment presumably justifies slavery, the holocaust, the killing fields and many other atrocities that have been committed in the past?
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Postim i vjeter #57 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 17:12:42 Citim 
Quote ( Andrew Watson @ October 20th 2011,17:07:33 )

It always seems pretty distateful to me the delight so many take in the death of guys like Gaddafi, Bin Laden etc.

You can argue all day that "they had it coming" or "the world is a better place", but that isn't how the free world should be doing its shit. And revelling in their deaths plays out as an unpleasent reflection of just the sort of behaviour we condemn when the situations are, in some way, reversed (think 9/11).
Unfortunately, its human nature.
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Postim i vjeter #58 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 17:12:58 Citim 
Quote ( Andrew Watson @ October 20th 2011,17:07:33 )

You can argue all day that "they had it coming" or "the world is a better place", but that isn't how the free world should be doing its shit. And revelling in their deaths plays out as an unpleasent reflection of just the sort of behaviour we condemn when the situations are, in some way, reversed (think 9/11)


I think people are just happy innocent lives are not getting lost day in and day out Andrew. I dont care if they rot in a jail cell for the rest of time. What I dont like is civilians caught in the cross hair, That goes for both sides in this case, Soldiers and Libyans etc.
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Postim i vjeter #59 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 17:18:57 Citim 
Quote ( Michael Keeney @ October 20th 2011,17:12:58 )

I think people are just happy innocent lives are not getting lost day in and day out Andrew. I dont care if they rot in a jail cell for the rest of time. What I dont like is civilians caught in the cross hair, That goes for both sides in this case, Soldiers and Libyans etc.
Gaddafi had nothing left. His death doesn't help prevent more deaths. And who are we to decide who deserves to live and die?

Besides, my point was that celebrating his death reduces us to the level of those we condemn. We should hold ourselves better than that.
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Postim i vjeter #60 Postuar 20 Tetor 2011, 17:19:17 (Së fundi edituar 20 Tetor 2011, 17:19:59 nga Sion Francis) Citim 
Quote ( Andrew Watson @ October 20th 2011,17:07:33 )

but that isn't how the free world should be doing its shit.


Where does that argument end though? Normally the argument runs that an eye for an eye is not justified and that human lives should always be spared...personally I fail to see a significant distinction between the death penalty and deprevation of liberty for the rest of one's existence...in fact, I'd argue that that is probably worse than death.

Meaning, the most logical conclusion of not allowing an eye for an eye is that people should always go through rehabilitation with the possibility (probability?) of release. Now, disagree if you like, but I don't think you'd advocate the possible release of someone who's committed genocide. Thus, I find the argument reasonably irrational.
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