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Quote ( Hélio Romeu @ May 30th 2014,12:01:53 ) races with random weather where you have ex: rain-dry-rain-dry, there should be more strategy options
And you're sure you can handle more strategy options?
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Quote ( Hélio Romeu @ May 30th 2014,12:01:53 ) it should be possible to set the number of laps I can set to pit or not,
Have you looked on the race strategy page by any chance?
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This could be quite interesting in rookie/amateur for people with strong wet drivers.
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i like it :) more option's more interesting
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Quote ( Martin Keifer @ May 30th 2014,12:06:16 ) This could be quite interesting in rookie/amateur for people with strong wet drivers.
It benefits those that are not strong in the wet more, IMO as, in a mixed race with lots of dry laps but some rain, they can push hard in the dry but take it easy in the rain, reducing the risk of driver mistakes.
It is likely to have less impact the higher up you go though.
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Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ May 30th 2014,13:04:45 ) It is likely to have less impact the higher up you go though.
I disagree if you are on Conti tyres you would use less risks in wet.
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Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ May 30th 2014,13:04:45 ) It is likely to have *less impact* the higher up you go though.
Try; *none what-so-ever*
Quote ( Cale Murray @ May 30th 2014,13:10:32 ) I disagree
so you shall :)
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Quote ( Cale Murray @ May 30th 2014,13:10:32 ) I disagree if you are on Conti tyres you would use less risks in wet. Why would they do that?
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Quote ( Cale Murray @ May 30th 2014,13:10:32 ) Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ May 30th 2014,13:04:45 )
It is likely to have less impact the higher up you go though.
I disagree if you are on Conti tyres you would use less risks in wet.
The other way around surely?
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Quote ( Michael Pollard @ May 30th 2014,13:14:56 ) The other way around surely?
can you use more then 100 ? LOL
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IMO this benefits those who have patience to train long term drivers and will give them a nice advantage in the upper levels ;)
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Quote ( Cale Murray @ May 30th 2014,13:10:32 ) I disagree if you are on Conti tyres you would use less risks in wet.
To be even slower than you need to be???
Quote ( Shoaib Mohamed @ May 30th 2014,13:14:11 ) Why would they do that?
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Quote ( Fran Betancort @ May 30th 2014,13:18:07 ) IMO this benefits those who have patience to train long term drivers and will give them a nice advantage in the upper levels ;)
Can you elaborate?
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Quote ( Andrei Ciuchi @ May 30th 2014,12:04:44 ) And you're sure you can handle more strategy options?
since we have the weather predictions divided by 4, I don't see the problem of having strategies for each one of them...
Quote ( Mark Witney @ May 30th 2014,12:05:00 ) Quote ( Hélio Romeu @ May 30th 2014,12:01:53 )
it should be possible to set the number of laps I can set to pit or not,
Have you looked on the race strategy page by any chance?
I know my English might not be very good, but if you read the full phrase, im sure you will understand it..... im talking about the example.
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Quote ( Hélio Romeu @ May 30th 2014,13:41:11 ) since we have the weather predictions divided by 4, I don't see the problem of having strategies for each one of them...
So, if you want to have 3 options for each quarter of the race ... you think you can handle that many? That's quite a lot. :) Maybe not necessarily for you ... but for others, it might be a lot.
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Idea is good. Just a general separate settings for the dry and rainy weather is more than enough, I think.
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There will be separate OV/DEF risks for dry/wet or will be added only wet risk?
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Quote ( Emil Kwiatkowski @ May 30th 2014,15:02:22 ) There will be separate OV/DEF risks for dry/wet or will be added only wet risk?
Good question. I assume you will be able to set different settings for all your risks, but I'll ask for this to be clarified.
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We need Stefan "Busyboy" Voggenreither to clarify this ;)
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Quote ( Fran Betancort @ May 30th 2014,15:23:10 ) We need Stefan "Busyboy" Voggenreither to clarify this ;)
I've asked the question to the powers that be, so one will respond in due course :)
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Quote ( Fran Betancort @ May 30th 2014,15:23:10 ) We need Stefan "Busyboy" Voggenreither to clarify this ;)
Oh God, I read "Busybox" :D Too much android modifications :E
BTW separate risks have some sense.
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At the risk of a season filled with randoms.... /o\
This is a great addition to the strategy options of the game. Thank you Admins. :)
Why should I be more disadvantaged, then I already am, with a driver that does not like water? Why should another manager automatically be given a boost in the rain?
Currently, you choose how many laps you drive past, a weather change, 1.. 2.. 6... 10... no stop laps? You choose to change tires, or not. You choose risks for different aspects of the race and driver combination. Include some staff attributes and another choice, on pit stops.
Having this option, to modifying the risks in changeable weather (dry - wet) conditions provides another choice in making a strategy for different weather scenarios. A logical choice in considering the possibility of start-stop weather.
You live.... you learn. New players will take it on as part of the game mechanics. Experienced managers, will adapt as all players will. Does it give advantage to some players? Possibly, but all players are using the same game and that advantage is available to all players, eventually. It may actually even the racing field.
Now, really? How many of you really believe that, this change is going to ruin or disrupt your long term planning? If you are playing this game for any length of time, then you are capable and smart enough to adapt with the minimal disruption to your game play. If this change, will alter your plans and you can't play as strongly or as you had envisioned in the future.... well, buddy boy... suck it up! It is probably not everyone's favourite change.
Last note, off topic. I have read all the threads presented here. Responses in this thread were tight and snippy, like two small dogs, acting like they want to have a go at each other. My advice: If you are feeling thin skinned today, perhaps it is not a good idea to start a debate. Being 'the devil's advocate' has it's limits as well and should still be in the realm of civility. Denigrating a person whom, you do not agree with, is not a good position for enlightened discussion.
My last word so... don't ask ME for examples, if the cap fit... let them wear it.
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This will help take away the lottery aspect of changeable weather, having different risk's for dry and wet is for the better, simple.......
I'm all for this.......
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Quote ( Andrei Ciuchi @ May 30th 2014,13:53:45 ) Quote ( Hélio Romeu @ May 30th 2014,13:41:11 )
So, if you want to have 3 options for each quarter of the race ... you think you can handle that many? That's quite a lot. :) Maybe not necessarily for you ... but for others, it might be a lot.
its just tyres options, so in each spot you just have to put 2 number max of laps... basically you are just playing with the weather probabilities and the stops during those periods.
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I'm against ...why?
because ... if the race is wet-dry-wet-dry...or something like this...and if you have 20-30 place driver...probably u will smoke, if u push for some points or if u wish to promote u will have 100ct!!! it's simple! if u need points in this kind of race...u will put 100 ct on dry and 5 on wet? be serios!!! and let's say that you are the best driver on dry and very weak on wet...and your adversary for wining the group is the best on wet and medium on dry...u will have 100ct dry and 10 ct on wet and the other guy will have 50 ct on dry and 100ct on wet? bouth will have 100 ct!!! it's not logical to have other risks!!! dry or wet u will push for victory...if we talk about 20-30 places...u will have low ct...and maybe 1 spin on wet...but u are a blocker so it's ok to spin!:P in my opinion...more options for nothing!!! what it's really nice to have is to change strategy when the race is running...if u are too fast and you will win any way...to take it easy, or if u have random with no chance to take points to put 0ct after that because your race is a mess and u will broke your care for nothing... or if the temperature is not ok with your initial setup...to change at least wings setup at next pitstop, or weather changes...stuff like this...LIVE!! live will be super...but it's hard to do it ...maybe implemented in a way...
PROposal: why u don't take off the talent!!??! this skill no longer exist!!!
now every one looking for exp drivers + stamina...and that it! + Rain races are increasingly fewer...+ dif risks for dif kind of weather...we no longer need talent! Needless to say that talent has great impact on OA! and for what?...prob to have more options on risk menu:(
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...wtf...is...this...three...full...stops...between...words...thing
brain...hurts...now
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Quote ( Florin Ionut @ May 30th 2014,17:22:25 ) because ... if the race is wet-dry-wet-dry...or something like this...and if you have 20-30 place driver...probably u will smoke, if u push for some points or if u wish to promote u will have 100ct!!! it's simple! if u need points in this kind of race...u will put 100 ct on dry and 5 on wet? be serios!!! and let's say that you are the best driver on dry and very weak on wet...and your adversary for wining the group is the best on wet and medium on dry...u will have 100ct dry and 10 ct on wet and the other guy will have 50 ct on dry and 100ct on wet? bouth will have 100 ct!!!
If I understand you correctly, you are saying that you don't think people will use the feature? Or am I picking up sarcasm when there isn't actually any there?
Given that is was requested, some certainly plan to use it. Others might not. But if someone does use it and massively drops their risk in the rain, then they may well avoid driver mistakes, but their speed will be massively compromised at the same time and they risk losing many places to people using risk. It's just a new management choice to make, if you look at it that way.
Quote ( Florin Ionut @ May 30th 2014,17:22:25 ) it's not logical to have other risks!!! dry or wet u will push for victory
Agree or not, you can't argue it isn't logical as, as mentioned when this was discussed, it's perfectly logical for someone to drive more cautiously in wet weather than dry.
Quote ( Florin Ionut @ May 30th 2014,17:22:25 ) what it's really nice to have is to change strategy when the race is running...
Now you're just being silly :(
Quote ( Florin Ionut @ May 30th 2014,17:22:25 ) PROposal: why u don't take off the talent!!??! this skill no longer exist!!!
now every one looking for exp drivers + stamina...and that it! + Rain races are increasingly fewer...+ dif risks for dif kind of weather...we no longer need talent! Needless to say that talent has great impact on OA! and for what?...prob to have more options on risk menu:(
I don't understand your position here. Are you saying that talent becomes not important due to the upcoming new risk options? If so, not only don't you understand everything that talent does, but I think you are worrying much more about the impact of the change than you need to.
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Mate,I think you just explained it very well.I too liked this idea but when I was reading the rant. I just can't help but disagree on some of the things he said.(especially...this...wtf...is...this...). Luckily for me you explained everything better than what I would have done.
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