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Quote ( Paul Bryant @ September 3rd 2011,16:35:59 )
My first race this season wasn't helped by the driver being sick in his helmet on lap 59!
Lol, not good hiring a driver that gets car sick, maybe he should choose a new career path. :P
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Same settings i used in rookie, I guess i have to learn limits in amateur all over again !
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Quote ( Jason Beveridge @ September 4th 2011,04:04:26 )
Lol, not good hiring a driver that gets car sick, maybe he should choose a new career path. :P
Yeah maybe he should be driving Golf Carts not Race cars :)
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That is so random lol!
My driver is pretty young....I hope he doesnt get too nervous and does the same! Maybe mine will pit due to him spraying graffiti all over the internal bits of the car and it needs cleaning!
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Who do you think will win tomorrow? Who you think is the favorite for promotion this season?
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Quote ( Vladan Cupric @ September 5th 2011,22:46:03 )
Who do you think will win tomorrow?
Hard to tell without knowing what strategies everyone's on, I'm hoping for another podium, fingers crossed. :)
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First race of the season for me, and can definitely see who is high risking this and who is not...
Hmm, thank you random, thank you very much! :/
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Quote ( Joe Manifold @ September 6th 2011,21:37:33 )
Hmm, thank you random, thank you very much! :/
I had three randoms during the last race. So, thank you random, thank you random and thank you random!
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Hmmm a puncture to add to my sick in helmet random from last race......pretty much ruined my season already...thanks GPRO :(
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Unlucky guys, 3 randoms in one rcae Eloi? Ouch! :(
Interesting standings after 2 races, no real standout favourites at this stage.
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Is a drivers mistake taken as a random ?
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A driver mistake would be a random, but it would also be related to your drivers skill and the risks you take in the race.
Good race everyone, I screwed up starting fuel and tried to comprimise....unfortunetaly I kinda put about 4 litres too little! :) Congratz to the podium takers!
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An interesting beginning of the season. Unlike last season, this will be exciting. Last season, only a small number of drivers winning points. This season will be tough to survive in the amateurs.
I am in the first race was now 8 and 9 point win. My goal is placement of about 10 places.
Good luck to all.
Driver error is not random but depends on several things that set manager
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Yeah, randoms are like what Paul's had (driver sick, puncture).
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ah ok, if you mean "A random" then yeah, its not that
but getting a driver mistake is also random in the way that it depends on probability, which can be affected by other things such as your risks and other driver stats (won't ruin the fun by saying which stats ;))
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Quote ( Jason Beveridge @ September 7th 2011,11:56:42 )
Yeah, randoms are like what Paul's had (driver sick, puncture).
There are true randoms and plenty of others that people call randoms which aren't.
I'm only p*ssed because i've had two true randoms in two races. Driver Errors aren't randoms neither are things like gearbox or engine failures or start line accidents but punctures and sick in helmet are.
....plus I like a good whinge now and then makes me feel vindicated :P
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Quote ( Jason Beveridge @ September 7th 2011,03:26:13 )
3 randoms in one rcae Eloi?
Yes. Not considering driver mistakes. The three randoms were: a loose wheel on lap 8, fuel pump on lap 38 and a smoking car with less than 40% wear on lap 74. I considered myself unluck since the three randoms happened in the same race with medium-to-low risks. And as I had an advantage to the 2nd of almost 5sec on lap 7, I think that I could have scored some valuable points in Bucharest.
Quote ( Vladan Cupric @ September 7th 2011,10:29:09 )
Driver error is not random but depends on several things that set manager
Quote ( Jason Beveridge @ September 7th 2011,11:56:42 )
Yeah, randoms are like what Paul's had (driver sick, puncture).
Quote ( Paul Bryant @ September 7th 2011,17:14:13 )
There are true randoms and plenty of others that people call randoms which aren't.
My opinion: Almost everything in the game is related to some random variables. Let's take as an example the laptime, which has a well known component: the driver error. Driver error is a random variable that behaves according to some probability distribution that is characterized by a standard deviation. The standard deviation, on the other hand, depends on several factors in the game, being a famous "foby" driver skill one of the most important. Even driver sick may be more or less likely to happen depending on some driver stats. Thus, its occurrence may be minimized by signing to an appropriate driver, as lower risks can minimize the occurence of several other issues.
I don't believe in true or false randoms. Actually, I believe that some issues are more or less affected by our choices in the game. The same way as in "real life".
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Quote ( Eloi Agostini Jr @ September 7th 2011,18:49:21 )
I don't believe in true or false randoms
You are mostly right however there are supposedly True randoms which are not affected by anything other than a 'metaphorical' throw of the die. The two I have suffered from, I have it on very, very good authority are (supposed to be) truly random.
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Quote ( Paul Bryant @ September 7th 2011,20:56:17 )
there are supposedly True randoms which are not affected by anything other than a 'metaphorical' throw of the die
Every aspect of the game that is affected by a random variable is a random by its own definition. It means that if the game "throws a die" to decide if something happens or not it is a random. If the game "throws a die" to decide if your drive will make a mistake, so it is random. Even your laptime, which depends on the driver error, is a random if it depends on a random decision. If you use high risks, for example, you may increase the chance to have driver mistakes or tech problems. Some driver stats have influence on the probability of the "thrown dice" to have a given result.
Quote ( Paul Bryant @ September 7th 2011,20:56:17 )
The two I have suffered from, I have it on very, very good authority are (supposed to be) truly random.
I disagree. In my opinion only the admins can say with authority if the occurrence of a tyre puncture (one of your true randoms) has the same probability to happen for every GPRO manager, independently of driver stats, risks used, among other things. Maybe the risks or driver stats have such a low influence in tyre puncture occurrence that it cannot be detected without a very large amount of samples. The same applies for driver sick.
That is the context of my statement "I don't believe in true or false randoms". I consider all the aspects of the game governed by the "throw of a die" randoms. Finally, I don't consider the loose wheel that I suffered less random than your tyre puncture.
That's my opinion, possibly not the truth. The same way that what you said so far is your opinion, possibly not the truth.
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Most of the decisions made by the games engine involves a constant (driver stat, race temp etc....) and a variable. This does not make it 'random' ie. as likely to happen to one manager as another.
A true random is one which has no constant just a variable which means, in theory everyone has an equal chance of getting the event. However flip a coin twice and you will only get a head and a tails half the time so it can look like it is not random when it actually is.Quote ( Eloi Agostini Jr @ September 8th 2011,00:08:02 )
In my opinion only the admins can say with authority if the occurrence of a tyre puncture
I absolutely agree...like I said I had it on very very good authority! :D
(Although they might of course have been throwing me a bluff!)
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Quote ( Eloi Agostini Jr @ September 6th 2011,22:06:08 )
I had three randoms during the last race. So, thank you random, thank you random and thank you random!
Just noticed this. I had a gearbox problem, that's what I referred to as a random :p.
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Wow, no wonder why I was a bit down the grid. So many people 2 stopping, possibly even 3 stopping if them pitting on lap 17 will show a wrong strategy. Does not many people here know that a 1 stop strategy is mostly quicker than 2 stops? Hmm...
E: 3-4 laps per stint overfuelled ftw.
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Quote ( Joe Manifold @ September 9th 2011,20:37:48 )
Does not many people here know that a 1 stop strategy is mostly quicker than 2 stops?
Does not many people here know how to calculate fuel consumption?
And 2 stops is faster for this race, imo. Don't forget it's your driver's fav track. But it seems that you won't win the race anyway.
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I don't calculate my fuel, I have no calculations and since I am riding solo at the moment, I decide to do all the calculations myself. I'd prefer to over-fuel rather than under-fuel... And at Monza a 1 stopper is usually quicker, obviously here there is a bigger time difference between tyre compounds than there have been in the past...
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Quote ( Joe Manifold @ September 9th 2011,21:06:25 )
here there is a bigger time difference between tyre compounds than there have been in the past
It is one of the things you should be aware of before saying:
Quote ( Joe Manifold @ September 9th 2011,20:37:48 )
1 stop strategy is mostly quicker than 2 stops
And:
Quote ( Joe Manifold @ September 9th 2011,21:06:25 )
Monza a 1 stopper is usually quicker
Are we playing the same game? Maybe you should take a look at the race summary history for Monza...
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Hmm, since I'm not really playing GPRO much at all, only go on it on race day and qualify about 15 minutes before 18:30 CET, I really don't have any interest in searching through race summary history for certain tracks. I don't have enough time, so I really can't be bothered. And I was only going by past experiences and advice from a certain close friend on this game who also has the same opinion as me and enough data for him to be happy with his own race strategy, so I don't exactly want to get into an argument and certainly don't want a lecture thank you :p.
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Quote ( Joe Manifold @ September 9th 2011,21:17:49 )
I don't exactly want to get into an argument and certainly don't want a lecture thank you
It's not my intention to give you a lecture. Actually, it seemed to be yours in post #1792. And I'm not interested in lectures too.
Whenever you decide to be ironic, as in post #1792, at least check if you know what you're talking about. Or don't complain when other people disagree with you.
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Quote ( Eloi Agostini Jr @ September 9th 2011,21:29:35 )
It's not my intention to give you a lecture. Actually, it seemed to be yours in post #1792. And I'm not interested in lectures too.
Whenever you decide to be ironic, as in post #1792, at least check if you know what you're talking about. Or don't complain when other people disagree with you.
Going by my current position and possibly finishing position, barring any mistakes, it would definitely prove to be ironic, that's for sure.
E: And my "certain friend" is on a net +8, and I am on a net +8, that is definitely something interesting and to consider...
2nd E: And we're both using 0 CT.
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Quote ( Joe Manifold @ September 9th 2011,21:32:57 )
And we're both using 0 CT.
There are at least two ways to prove that it is not true, but they are "foby" knowledge. I am sure that other members of Amateur 53 also know how to estimate you CT risk and will laugh at you when they read this.
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Quote ( Eloi Agostini Jr @ September 9th 2011,21:45:43 )
There's at least two ways to prove that it is not true
I can vouch for the fact we both used 0CT.
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