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#91 публикувано 22 Ное 2011 г. 22:19:07
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Maybe im underestimating group mates Defend risks
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Quote ( Stefan Voggenreither @ March 19th 2010,11:12:13 )
And as I'm in a good mood today, you will get now a complete list of all tracks. You can see there the ratio of blockings and passes (so, if there is a ratio of 2 it means, that per one overtaking there are 2 blockings on that track) and the overtaking. Also, just as informative number, you see also how many races are taken into account for that ratio. Races mean for example at the moment, that per raceday there will be 341 races driven, as this is the current number of groups.. It is sorted ascending by the ratio.
Track Overtaking RatioBlockPasses Races -------------------------------------------------------------- Brno easy 0.39 341 Fuji easy 1.00 1032 Paul Ricard easy 1.01 1299 Indianapolis easy 1.06 1016 Oesterreichring easy 1.07 907 Monza easy 1.08 855 Laguna Seca easy 1.15 1116 Spa normal 1.18 1443 A1-Ring easy 1.21 365 Istanbul normal 1.36 1181 Shanghai normal 1.38 1108 Estoril normal 1.40 1244 Interlagos normal 1.51 1449 Sakhir normal 1.59 1688 Montreal normal 1.62 1322 Silverstone normal 1.72 1436 Sepang normal 1.74 1572 Nurburgring normal 1.81 1194 Poznan hard 1.81 341 Zandvoort normal 1.86 1135 Zolder hard 1.90 1102 Hockenheim normal 1.91 1484 Barcelona hard 2.06 838 Mugello hard 2.07 712 Imola hard 2.25 1455 Brands Hatch normal 2.29 1242 Fiorano normal 2.37 189 Brasilia hard 2.41 867 Mexico City hard 2.42 1214 Kyalami hard 2.44 1145 Jerez hard 2.46 764 Melbourne hard 2.46 1286 Suzuka hard 2.53 1284 Magny Cours hard 2.57 999 Singapore hard 2.62 1208 Monte Carlo very hard 2.77 2270 Yas Marina hard 2.83 682 Adelaide hard 2.85 989 Valencia hard 2.85 1023 Anderstorp very hard 2.98 1330 Buenos Aires very hard 3.15 778 Hungaroring very hard 3.44 1143
Stefan, could you please do an upgrade on that track list? Adding new tracks and actual past races overtaking / blocking ratios? :D Regards Lelos
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#93 публикувано 28 Фев 2012 г. 02:51:38
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You know I find all of this really interesting, but sadly I've noticed that very rarely do I ever change up my own risks into account of the track we're on. I guess I try and just keep it a bit too simple sometimes.
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Okay, okay, an update after 2 years is okay, so here we go :) Things are the same as last time, that means: You can see there the ratio of blockings and passes (so, if there is a ratio of 2 it means, that per one overtaking there are 2 blockings on that track) and the overtaking. Also, just as informative number, you see also how many races are taken into account for that ratio. Races mean for example at the moment, that per raceday there will be 389 races driven, as this is the current number of groups.. It is sorted ascending by the ratio.
Name Overtaking RatioBlockPasses Races ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Indianapolis Oval very easy 0.2009 1055 Brno easy 0.6506 1705 Oesterreichring easy 0.7728 1589 Shanghai normal 0.9812 2472 Paul Ricard easy 0.9957 2711 New Delhi normal 1.0543 341 Monza easy 1.0757 2560 Laguna Seca easy 1.0963 2139 Fuji easy 1.1571 2769 Indianapolis easy 1.2047 1746 A1-Ring easy 1.2718 1761 Spa normal 1.3307 3521 Irungattukottai easy 1.3572 1396 Istanbul normal 1.3640 3275 Yeongam normal 1.3699 1705 Estoril normal 1.4564 2981 Montreal normal 1.5515 3448 Bucharest Ring easy 1.5533 682 Sakhir normal 1.5744 2743 Zandvoort normal 1.6008 1476 Brasilia hard 1.6550 1597 Sepang normal 1.7333 2984 Silverstone normal 1.7652 3141 Nurburgring normal 1.8035 2606 Interlagos normal 1.8734 3186 Hockenheim normal 1.9359 2539 Jerez hard 2.0351 1446 Yas Marina hard 2.1506 2808 Ahvenisto normal 2.2184 714 Mugello hard 2.2236 1394 Brands Hatch normal 2.2889 1924 Magny Cours hard 2.3261 2736 Zolder hard 2.3316 2514 Valencia hard 2.3348 2094 Barcelona hard 2.3390 2202 Poznan hard 2.3414 1364 Mexico City hard 2.3589 2237 Kyalami hard 2.3795 2541 Singapore hard 2.4527 2945 Melbourne hard 2.4552 2650 Imola hard 2.5006 2137 Suzuka hard 2.5671 2989 Adelaide hard 2.6016 2044 Fiorano normal 2.9583 919 Buenos Aires very hard 3.3087 2872 Anderstorp very hard 3.4406 2401 Monte Carlo very hard 3.5523 5030 Hungaroring very hard 3.6082 2848
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#95 публикувано 28 Фев 2012 г. 11:57:55
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#96 публикувано 28 Фев 2012 г. 12:04:21
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Wow, nearly two years between Stefan's "good mood" days. Miserable git. ;p
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#97 публикувано 28 Фев 2012 г. 12:36:54
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Are the only two possible outcomes to an attempted overtake an overtake or a block? Or are there other possibilities like "not close enough to overtake"?
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#98 публикувано 28 Фев 2012 г. 12:56:20
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Quote ( Sion Francis @ February 28th 2012,12:36:54 )
Are the only two possible outcomes to an attempted overtake an overtake or a block? Or are there other possibilities like "not close enough to overtake"? As in: What constitutes a block for the purpose of those statistics?
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#99 публикувано 28 Фев 2012 г. 13:24:57
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I would suggest, however, that the number of drivers who have a certain track as their favourite track might skew the results slightly - for example, a huge number of drivers (that I have seen) seem to have Shanghai as an FT, and sure enough this 'normal' OT track is above some of the 'easy' ones.
I could be totally wrong, as I haven't looked at a big enough driver sample. Just a thought.
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#100 публикувано 28 Фев 2012 г. 15:27:32
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I think a partial reason why Shanghai is so high is that there have been quite a lot of lotteries, so the order gets mixed and hence there will be more overtakings instead of the Trulli trains when people are in correctish order from the start.
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#101 публикувано 28 Фев 2012 г. 17:39:13
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Indeed...the stats would carry a lot more weight if we could just seperate them into "in the dry" and "in teh wet".
Monaco in the dry does not have a 3.5 - 1 ratio of blocks to overtakes. 350-1 would be closer to the mark.
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#102 публикувано 28 Фев 2012 г. 17:48:02
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Quote ( Sion Francis @ February 28th 2012,17:39:13 )
Monaco in the dry does not have a 3.5 - 1 ratio of blocks to overtakes. 350-1 would be closer to the mark.
Great shout
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#103 публикувано 28 Фев 2012 г. 17:51:55
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I wonder why Fiorano is normal and has higher ratio than all hard... Today we'll race the 2nd hardest to overtake easy track :D
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#104 публикувано 28 Фев 2012 г. 17:54:27
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Quote ( Roger Dodic @ February 28th 2012,17:51:55 )
I wonder why Fiorano is normal and has higher ratio than all hard... When was the last time it rained at Fiorano?
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#105 публикувано 28 Фев 2012 г. 18:06:56
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Quote ( Sion Francis @ February 28th 2012,12:36:54 )
Are the only two possible outcomes to an attempted overtake an overtake or a block? Or are there other possibilities like "not close enough to overtake"? Depends on if Lewis Hamilton is driving.
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Is there any chance of getting this amended for when slipstreaming came into effect please :)
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#107 публикувано 2 Май 2013 г. 14:07:19
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Quote ( Michael Keeney @ May 2nd 2013,13:59:28 ) slimstreaming
idea for new weight loss website.
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#108 публикувано 2 Май 2013 г. 14:08:07
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Quote ( Sion Francis @ May 2nd 2013,14:07:19 ) idea for new weight loss website.
Something like that ;)
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#109 публикувано 23 Май 2013 г. 09:39:28
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More than a year since the last update, could we get a new list please?
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#110 публикувано 30 Юли 2013 г. 14:08:17
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I'd appreciate a new list to show the effect of slipstreaming on overtaking.
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#111 публикувано 14 Фев 2014 г. 16:20:39
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Quote ( Stefan Voggenreither @ February 28th 2012,11:55:41 ) Okay, okay, an update after 2 years is okay, so here we go :) Things are the same as last time, that means: You can see there the ratio of blockings and passes (so, if there is a ratio of 2 it means, that per one overtaking there are 2 blockings on that track) and the overtaking. Also, just as informative number, you see also how many races are taken into account for that ratio. Races mean for example at the moment, that per raceday there will be 389 races driven, as this is the current number of groups.. It is sorted ascending by the ratio.
Name Overtaking RatioBlockPasses Races ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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how about another update after sliptreaming was introduced?
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#112 публикувано 16 Апр 2014 г. 20:44:58
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Oh, have already two years passed again? Okay, okay, small update. As special service you get the values from two years ago in brackets :)
Name Overtaking RatioBlockPasses Races --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Indianapolis Oval very easy 0.2194 (0.2009) 2576 (1055) Brno easy 0.7045 (0.6506) 3701 (1705) Oesterreichring easy 0.7690 (0.7728) 2567 (1589) Austin easy 0.7886 1550 Slovakiaring hard 0.7886 1002 Bucharest Ring easy 1.0217 (1.5533) 2106 (682) Monza easy 1.0598 (1.0757) 4468 (2560) Shanghai normal 1.0657 (0.9812) 4316 (2472) New Delhi normal 1.0689 (1.0543) 3390 (341) Fuji easy 1.0971 (1.1571) 4751 (2769) Paul Ricard easy 1.1123 (0.9957) 4686 (2711) Portimao easy 1.1428 1930 Laguna Seca easy 1.2200 (1.0963) 3995 (2139) Irungattukottai easy 1.2350 (1.3572) 2798 (1396) Istanbul normal 1.2511 (1.3640) 5249 (3275) Indianapolis easy 1.2524 (1.2047) 2285 (1746) A1-Ring easy 1.3374 (1.2718) 2223 (1761) Spa normal 1.3474 (1.3307) 4957 (3521) Yeongam normal 1.4595 (1.3699) 4720 (1705) Silverstone normal 1.5031 (1.7652) 5511 (3141) Sakhir normal 1.5110 (1.5744) 5163 (2743) Montreal normal 1.5530 (1.5515) 5420 (3448) Zandvoort normal 1.5928 (1.6008) 2838 (1476) Sepang normal 1.6014 (1.7333) 6389 (2984) Estoril normal 1.6236 (1.4564) 3982 (2981) Brasilia hard 1.7187 (1.6550) 3605 (1597) Nurburgring normal 1.8569 (1.8035) 4156 (2606) Hockenheim normal 1.8740 (1.9359) 3512 (2539) Interlagos normal 1.8798 (1.8734) 4609 (3186) Yas Marina hard 2.0997 (2.1506) 6103 (2808) Brands Hatch normal 2.2124 (2.2889) 3382 (1924) Jerez hard 2.2562 (2.0351) 2420 (1446) Melbourne hard 2.2637 (2.4552) 5047 (2650) Adelaide hard 2.2646 (2.6016) 4006 (2044) Kaunas normal 2.2969 2009 Zolder hard 2.3074 (2.3316) 3960 (2514) Mexico City hard 2.3312 (2.3589) 4745 (2237) Kyalami hard 2.3502 (2.3795) 4396 (2541) Ahvenisto normal 2.3968 (2.2184) 2676 (714) Barcelona hard 2.4314 (2.3390) 3564 (2202) Singapore hard 2.4509 (2.4527) 5425 (2945) Poznan hard 2.4637 (2.3414) 2778 (1364) Mugello hard 2.4754 (2.2236) 2944 (1394) Fiorano normal 2.4805 (2.9583) 1932 (919) Magny Cours hard 2.4889 (2.3261) 3725 (2736) Valencia hard 2.5215 (2.3348) 4080 (2094) Suzuka hard 2.6169 (2.5671) 5901 (2989) Imola hard 2.6418 (2.5006) 3022 (2137) Buenos Aires very hard 2.9393 (3.3087) 5292 (2872) Hungaroring very hard 3.3305 (3.6082) 5769 (2848) Anderstorp very hard 3.7393 (3.4406) 4848 (2401) Monte Carlo very hard 3.8013 (3.5523) 7365 (5030) Serres hard 4.3680 561
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#113 публикувано 16 Апр 2014 г. 20:46:51
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#114 публикувано 16 Апр 2014 г. 20:48:32
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What does RatioBlockPasses mean?
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#115 публикувано 16 Апр 2014 г. 20:50:02
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Wow this is some interesting stuff thanks Stefan!
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#116 публикувано 16 Апр 2014 г. 20:50:07
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So difficult to look up on the page. :)
Quote ( Stefan Voggenreither @ February 28th 2012,11:55:41 ) You can see there the ratio of blockings and passes (so, if there is a ratio of 2 it means, that per one overtaking there are 2 blockings on that track) and the overtaking.
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#117 публикувано 16 Апр 2014 г. 20:50:56
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Quote ( Constantin Heller @ April 16th 2014,20:48:32 ) What does RatioBlockPasses mean? the number of successful blocks for every successful pass.
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#118 публикувано 16 Апр 2014 г. 20:51:59
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Slovakiaring, such hard, such block.
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#119 публикувано 16 Апр 2014 г. 20:53:47
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Quote ( Constantin Heller @ April 16th 2014,20:48:32 ) What does RatioBlockPasses mean?
I was thnking of explaining it again in my post, but as my initial post was quoted right above my new post I decided to skip that and use it as little test... congratz ;-)
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#120 публикувано 16 Апр 2014 г. 20:55:25
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Quote ( Mairo Toom @ April 16th 2014,20:51:59 ) Slovakiaring, such hard, such block. Rain, dufus.
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