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Marko Stojčev
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Post antigo #1 Postado 13 Mar 2010, 01:23:10 (editado pela última vêz 13 Mar 2010, 01:24:17 por Marko Stojčev) Citar 
Is there a limit on consecutive driver's contract renewals?I searched forum on this,and founded one topic saying that ther's no such limit....
However,I don't have the option to extend my driver's contract now,since I did it before last race(+17)...
Of course,my driver is under the OA limit...
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Post antigo #2 Postado 13 Mar 2010, 01:24:23 Citar 
once the current contract is up you can extend it again
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Post antigo #3 Postado 13 Mar 2010, 01:25:05 Citar 
I am fairly sure that you are only allowed one extension, giving a maximum of 34 races.
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Post antigo #4 Postado 13 Mar 2010, 01:27:06 (editado pela última vêz 13 Mar 2010, 01:27:35 por Joe Manifold) Citar 
You can only extend the contract once. When the current contract ends and the new one is established, then you can renew the contract again.

EDIT: One extension per contract.
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Post antigo #5 Postado 13 Mar 2010, 01:27:15 (editado pela última vêz 13 Mar 2010, 01:28:44 por David Jundt) Citar 
Sign him for example for 17 races, give him an extension for 17 races and he stays at least 34 races.

When there are only 17 races left, you can extend it again if you are under the OA limit, and again and again, etc, etc.:P

EDIT: Ah, you didn't mean that.

Well yeah, only one extension per contract, yes.
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Post antigo #6 Postado 13 Mar 2010, 01:27:39 Citar 
Yep, that's it, you can only have a maximum of 17 + 17 races at any one time.
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Post antigo #7 Postado 13 Mar 2010, 03:32:33 (editado pela última vêz 13 Mar 2010, 03:34:39 por Brian Branch) Citar 
You can have one active contract extension at a time.

For instance
If a driver has a 17 race contract plus a 13 race extension, then you have to wait until the first 17 races are up before offering an additional extension (assuming OA is still under limit).

Then it'd be 13 race contract plus XX (between 1 & 17) possible extension.

(btw : if you had 1 race contract & 1 race extension then you still are unable to offer a extension until the first contract expires)
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Post antigo #8 Postado 3 Abr 2022, 18:59:51 Citar 
Rookie level - I got an expensive driver ex officio so I have signed another one for 17 races...
after two races that new driver´s OA was still under 85, but I was not allowed to extend the contract for another 17 races. there was not such option.
Now with 2 races to go my driver is OA 88 and I was having a plan to get into -15M after the last race to keep him.
But I have also other plan now. I have found another driver who I do like more and want to keep him for few seasons. I have refreshed my memories how to play this game now and I plan to promote to Amateur level next season after reset with this driver I see on the market.

The driver I like is now there with OA78...if I sign him now for 17 races, his contract expires next season two races to go... his OA will be definitely far over 85. So I will be not able to sign him again.

Question:
Should I have no worries, sign him now for 17 races and do extension for another 17 races after his 3rd race - first race next season? Will extension be allowed for me after the race 1?
Or it would be not possible to do an extension in rookies - and I should sign him only for 3 races now and then sign him for another 17 races? If I cannot do extension in rookies, when can I sign new contract? One race before expire or he must leave me and I should sign him again on the market?
Thanks :-)

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Post antigo #9 Postado 3 Abr 2022, 19:04:32 Citar 
As soon as you sign him, extend his contract for another 17 races straight away, then you don’t have to worry about his OA being above the limit for rookie and you can crack on and attack the season
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Post antigo #10 Postado 3 Abr 2022, 19:06:56 Citar 
Jessica, I was not able to extend the contract for another 17 races with my driver when he was 82...and then, when he was 85, again I was not able to sign extension...that is why I am asking
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Post antigo #11 Postado 3 Abr 2022, 19:37:25 Citar 
Hello Tomas, and welcome back.

You can offer contract extensions in Rookie. If you wanted to extend the randomly assigned driver you get when reactivating your account, I think you can't do that.
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Post antigo #12 Postado 3 Abr 2022, 19:41:54 Citar 
ok, thank you Marius and Jessica... I am going to bid for a driver with an offer for 17 races...without a fear and doubts now:-)
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Post antigo #13 Postado 3 Abr 2022, 20:34:12 Citar 
Just keep in mind that if your driver OA is over 85 at the END of race 17 you will not be able to keep him for next season.
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Post antigo #14 Postado 3 Abr 2022, 20:43:49 Citar 
should not be an issue...he will be 78 and 2 races to go... I suppose to gain +3 every next race..so should be 84, I also plan to look after his fitness before last race...
I will be not able to train him now before Sochi, as I get to negative after he signs on Monday (compensation to the current driver)
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Post antigo #15 Postado 3 Abr 2022, 20:57:42 Citar 
seems like you have a plan, I have had a mentee being caught out by that though so just a reminder ;)
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Post antigo #16 Postado 3 Abr 2022, 21:54:51 (editado pela última vêz 3 Abr 2022, 22:11:46 por Florencia Caro) Citar 
Quote ( Tomas Dederle @ April 3rd 2022,18:59:51 )

after two races that new driver´s OA was still under 85, but I was not allowed to extend the contract for another 17 races. there was not such option.

This is extremely odd. Options are that there was a bug (highly unlikely) or that you were not looking at the right place/your driver was already re-signed/some other human mistake on your end.

It would have been a good idea to ask for help ASAP, just to discard a bug or a PICNIC problem :)

Quote ( Tomas Dederle @ April 3rd 2022,18:59:51 )

Should I have no worries, sign him now for 17 races and do extension for another 17 races after his 3rd race - first race next season? Will extension be allowed for me after the race 1?

Why not re-signing the driver at the moment of hiring it? Let's assume re-signing works just fine, it'd let you put your re-signing fee on this season's budget instead of next's.

Also, are you considering other re-sign options other than 17? If you want to keep the driver for a relatively long term, re-signing early in the season has its benefits :)
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Post antigo #17 Postado 3 Abr 2022, 22:09:59 (editado pela última vêz 3 Abr 2022, 22:15:30 por David Andrewartha) Citar 
Quote ( Tomas Dederle @ April 3rd 2022,18:59:51 )

after two races that new driver´s OA was still under 85, but I was not allowed to extend the contract for another 17 races. there was not such option.

I've never had this problem in the past, it's been a while since I was in Rookie so I don't know if the rules have changed. I doubt whether you would be unable to extend a driver's contract if he was within OA limits though as training a driver to progress and promote with is quite a big part of the game for some managers. Possibly a bug or something you've missed?

Edit: Sorry if this is a dumb question Flo but what does "PICNIC" stand for, is it similar to "PEBCAK"?
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Post antigo #18 Postado 3 Abr 2022, 22:17:44 Citar 
Quote ( Tomas Dederle @ April 3rd 2022,19:06:56 )

Jessica, I was not able to extend the contract for another 17 races with my driver when he was 82...and then, when he was 85, again I was not able to sign extension...that is why I am asking


Just to be clear ...you did look at the Driver contract page ?

/gb/DriverContract.asp

The contract extension is not available on the training or profile pages, it has its own page.

Page Options:- Driver profile - Driver training - Driver contract


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Post antigo #19 Postado 3 Abr 2022, 22:19:06 Citar 
I think you've nailed it Mike.
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Post antigo #20 Postado 3 Abr 2022, 23:23:09 Citar 
Quote ( Mike Bennett @ April 3rd 2022,22:17:44 )

Quote ( Tomas Dederle @ April 3rd 2022,19:06:56

The contract extension is not available on the training or profile pages, it has its own page.

Page Options:- Driver profile - Driver training - Driver contrac



thanks..this was exactly my problem.. solved :-)
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Post antigo #21 Postado 3 Abr 2022, 23:45:16 Citar 
Quote ( David Andrewartha @ April 3rd 2022,22:09:59 )

Edit: Sorry if this is a dumb question Flo but what does "PICNIC" stand for, is it similar to "PEBCAK"?


Problem in chair. Not in computer.
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Post antigo #22 Postado 3 Abr 2022, 23:53:52 Citar 
Quote ( Chris Shaw @ April 3rd 2022,23:45:16 )

Quote ( David Andrewartha @ April 3rd 2022,22:09:59 )

Edit: Sorry if this is a dumb question Flo but what does "PICNIC" stand for, is it similar to "PEBCAK"?

Problem in chair. Not in computer.


I was always told " the problem is between the keyboard and the back of the chair" but I like PICNIC
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Post antigo #23 Postado 4 Abr 2022, 00:23:34 Citar 
Thanks Chris and Keith, and yes, same as PEBCAK, problem exists between chair and keyboard!
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Post antigo #24 Postado 4 Abr 2022, 01:27:45 Citar 
Quote ( Florencia Caro @ April 3rd 2022,21:54:51 )

Why not re-signing the driver at the moment of hiring it? Let's assume re-signing works just fine, it'd let you put your re-signing fee on this season's budget instead of next's.



Stat managment should be considered I guess.
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Post antigo #25 Postado 7 Abr 2022, 18:27:30 Citar 
Can anyone help me on how to reduce the motivation to lower the OA level so that I can renew the pilot's contract? My current driver has an OA 148 and motivation at 247 and he only has 5 races left on his contract. I'm planning to move up to Pro this week after the last race, so I would need to leave OA at 135 to be able to renew my contract at the start of Season 87.
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Post antigo #26 Postado 7 Abr 2022, 18:37:07 Citar 
Quote ( Guillermo Iborra @ April 7th 2022,18:27:30 )

Can anyone help me on how to reduce the motivation to lower the OA level so that I can renew the pilot's contract? My current driver has an OA 148 and motivation at 247 and he only has 5 races left on his contract. I'm planning to move up to Pro this week after the last race, so I would need to leave OA at 135 to be able to renew my contract at the start of Season 87.

You won't be able to, or you shouldn't, get full answers via the forum pages. But essentially, if you know what influences MOT positively, you should be able to deduct what gets it down ;)
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Post antigo #27 Postado 7 Abr 2022, 18:40:29 Citar 
Quote ( Guillermo Iborra @ April 7th 2022,18:27:30 )

Can anyone help me on how to reduce the motivation to lower the OA level so that I can renew the pilot's contract? My current driver has an OA 148 and motivation at 247 and he only has 5 races left on his contract. I'm planning to move up to Pro this week after the last race, so I would need to leave OA at 135 to be able to renew my contract at the start of Season 87.


You just need to think what would make your driver be really really really sad?

If you were the driver and not the manager, what would make you happy regarding the manager's decisions and how the race goes? If you think and try stuff out, you should get the answer.

Perhaps some of your groupmates are doing what you want to do as well... see if that might be the case!
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Post antigo #28 Postado 7 Abr 2022, 18:49:13 Citar 
I thought I knew, but conditions seem to have changed. Before, two or three bad races (finishing behind the final position of 25th) were enough to halve her motivation and, with it, the OA. But now the motivation doesn't drop as much, and I don't know if there is another method.
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Post antigo #29 Postado 7 Abr 2022, 19:27:18 Citar 
Quote ( Guillermo Iborra @ April 7th 2022,18:49:13 )

I thought I knew, but conditions seem to have changed. Before, two or three bad races (finishing behind the final position of 25th) were enough to halve her motivation and, with it, the OA. But now the motivation doesn't drop as much, and I don't know if there is another method.
Well it's a game where there are other live players too.. driver may feel happy sometimes to finish behind the pack when conditions are not for him to be better, just like a real driver, if you give Leclerc the ferrari and he ends up 8th, he might not be happy but if you give Latifi a Red Bull and he ends up 3rd he probably will end up not bad at all..
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Post antigo #30 Postado 7 Abr 2022, 22:07:14 Citar 
Quote ( Guillermo Iborra @ April 7th 2022,18:49:13 )

I thought I knew, but conditions seem to have changed. Before, two or three bad races (finishing behind the final position of 25th) were enough to halve her motivation and, with it, the OA. But now the motivation doesn't drop as much, and I don't know if there is another method.


Hi @Guillermo Iborra (A26)

From what I can see, you have to push in this last race to guarantee finishing higher than Maria Pazos, who has 1 point less in 4th place. (although you will probably still promote from the 'Additional promotions' :- /gb/AllPromotions.asp?Class=Amateur


So that leaves you with 4 races next season, and you will have to extend after race 3. You need to drop 13 OA ideally a tad more and this can easily be done in the first 3 races.

Current OA = 148 - 135 = 13

Have a look at my last race strategy to see what I did to max the reduction in OA points, if you still need help you can drop me a message for a fuller explanation :)
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