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Quote ( Leonardo Bittencourt @ January 20th 2012,17:57:32 )
But seriously, some #1 choices on this thread are just lol worthy.
+1
Quote ( Jed Lilly @ January 20th 2012,18:04:04 )
I agree, how can anybody in their right mind pick Senna as number 1 over Alain Prost and Niki Lauda?
LOL!
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Quote ( Michael Keeney @ January 20th 2012,18:04:05 )
within the last 15-20 years how anyone can go against Michael Schumacher is beyond me. Most of his championships were because of the car, Rubens has never been champion because MSC was #1 driver, yes, he was one of the best, but this moment is a bit overrated too, I don't think he had to come back
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Quote ( Cristian Morales @ January 20th 2012,18:18:26 )
Most of his championships were because of the car
I've been through this too many times on this site to repeat the argument. Put simply, the above does not hold true.
did MS have the best car in:
1994 - nope
1995 - nope
2000 - nope
2001 - maybe
2002 - yes
2003 - nope
2004 - yes
not to mention his near misses in 97,98,99,06 when he didnt have the best car...or his 3 wins in 1996 in a car that shouldnt win a go karting race.
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Quote ( Cristian Morales @ January 20th 2012,18:18:26 )
Most of his championships were because of the car, Rubens has never been champion because MSC was #1 driver, yes, he was one of the best, but this moment is a bit overrated too, I don't think he had to come back
I think we can all agree he shouldnt of came back but that doesnt take anything away from him. You can look at team orders etc anything you like. Michael is a muich better driver than Rubens. Rubens does have heart and ppl liked him because he was seen as the understudy to Michael so people emphasized with him, ppl wanted to like him and feel sorry for him but he was blown away at times by Michael in the same car.
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Quote ( Cristian Morales @ January 20th 2012,18:18:26 )
I don't think he had to come back
He's doing it because he loves it. He's now a great champion of the track as well as off it, his personality is one of the best in F1, I didn't get that impression before his sabatical.
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Quote ( Sion Francis @ January 20th 2012,18:20:19 )
the above does not hold true. There was the supposed traction control on the Benetton, and on some of the seasons the Ferrari was unstoppable, if, as Keeney says, Rubens is not that good (I'm not saying he says he's bad) how did he end 2nd most of the seasons?
Of course, I want Michael to win as he's a very important part in F1 history, but I don't him the most was because of him
And no, I don't support Vettel
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Quote ( Cristian Morales @ January 20th 2012,18:26:52 )
how did he end 2nd most of the seasons?
he didn't. He ended 2nd in 2002 and 2004. Check your facts.
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Rubens just isnt world class of course hes a good driver. Hes demanded a seat at some of the best teams in the sport at the pinacle of the sport F1.
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Vettel is better than Schumacher at the moment.
Schumacher is ranked 6th ever.
Top 5 in any order
Vettel
Hill
Senna
Prost
Lauder
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Quote ( Sion Francis @ January 20th 2012,18:20:19 )
or his 3 wins in 1996 in a car that shouldnt win a go karting race. yes, I admit he was the best... on his first years, but from 2001 or so he was quite helped (and I'm not saying he was cheating at all)
Quote ( Sion Francis @ January 20th 2012,18:20:19 )
not to mention his near misses in 97, 06 He didn't win those because of unsporting moves, 97 was a bit more harsh, but maybe he could have won 2006 without that move on Monaco's Q
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Quote ( Daniel Bassett @ January 20th 2012,18:34:50 )
Hill
Which one? I just know you're not putting Damon above Schumacher.
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Quote ( Sion Francis @ January 20th 2012,18:37:27 )
Quote ( Daniel Bassett @ January 20th 2012,18:34:50 )
Hill
Which one? Steven :)
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Didnt the current F1 drivers vote for the best driver of all time and most people around the paddock mention one name as the best, think they know more than us, and no suprise who came out on top. ;)
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Quote ( Sion Francis @ January 20th 2012,18:37:27 )
Which one?
Benny!
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Quote ( Daniel Bassett @ January 20th 2012,18:34:50 )
Lauder
Sorry, but Estée Lauder was never driving in F1.
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1.Senna
2.Villenueve
3.Vettel
(SCHUMACHER USES DRIVING AIDS(or used to))
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Quote ( Daniel Bassett @ January 20th 2012,18:34:50 )
Schumacher is ranked 6th ever.
Top 5 in any order
Vettel
Hill
Senna
Prost
Lauder
Come on. Vettel, than HILL?!? Vettel is over-rated.Sure, he deserved the 2010 & '11 titles, but he's not the best ever.
P.S. Lauda is spelt L-A-U-D-A
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Quote ( Charlie Maxson @ January 20th 2012,18:54:51 )
P.S. Lauda is spelt L-A-U-D-A
Quote ( Charlie Maxson @ January 20th 2012,18:46:55 )
2.Villenueve
V-I-L-L-E-N-E-U-V-E.
I'll be called Grammar Nazi again. I won't care.
Quote ( Charlie Maxson @ January 20th 2012,18:46:55 )
(SCHUMACHER USES DRIVING AIDS(or used to))
*Yawn* And even if he did, it's not getting any more interesting.
Just wait until Vettel has won even more titles. I'd put Clark ahead of D.Hill. His father too.
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Well Alonso is one of the most talented drivers so probably he can be the best driver!!!!
Vettel would be a good opponent but he is still young!!!!!
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senna
schumacher
mansell
alonso
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Quote ( Darren Keogh @ January 20th 2012,21:27:45 )
mansell
fail
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Quote ( Charlie Maxson @ January 20th 2012,18:54:51 )
Come on. Vettel, than HILL?!? Vettel is over-rated.Sure, he deserved the 2010 & '11 titles, but he's not the best ever. I never said he was.
Quote ( Daniel Bassett @ January 20th 2012,18:34:50 )
Top 5 in any order meaning they are all farely close, but there is not really 1 who is better than the others.
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I think Schumacher is (was) better than Vettel. Mainly because he has won so many titles and when Red Bull lose their advantage Vettel will suffer. Vettel has one way to win a race and Schumacher had many. (Including controversy) Ferrari were not always so dominant because Barrichello really had to fight for 2nd in the championship. 2005 schumacher was hit by problems which are hard to react after winning 5 in a row. Then with an equal performance car in 2006 he nearly won the title again.
To avoid biased on my part, my top 5 ex-drivers are:
Jim Clarke
Juan Manuel Fangio
Aryton Senna
Alain Prost
Jackie Stuart
The reason I didnt name current drivers was to avoid the temptation of putting Hamilton there, but in my opinion I could of justified that. You have to remember Lewis is a world champion and will be again before the end of his career. Hamilton had a difficult 2011 like all sportsman, he had a bad year (Just to mumble on a bit, people say Jenson is much better, and he had a great year and Lewis had a poor one but still had the same number of wins, what does this say about his quality on form). But he finished on a high with a sensational win in Abu Dhabi after huge pressure from Alonso. So he goes into 2012 with confidence and if he has a car that can just even half the gap to the Red Bulls he has a great chance. In my opinion its Hamilton Vs Alonso this year with Button probably in the hunt as well.
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Quote ( Jack Benson @ January 22nd 2012,13:51:54 )
Ferrari were not always so dominant because Barrichello really had to fight for 2nd in the championship
And Webber didn't have to fight? Why else would he get 3rd?
I must agree that Webber is worse than Barrichello(in my opinion) but still.. This is not a good reason.
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Quote ( Jack Benson @ January 22nd 2012,13:51:54 )
win in Abu Dhabi after huge pressure from Alonso.
Alonso couldn't pressure Hamilton in that Ferrari, Hamilton would've had his arse kicked by a slower Red Bull if Vettel hadn't suffered from bad luck.
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Quote ( Rubens Laturague @ January 20th 2012,12:06:22 )
1.Ayrton Senna
2.Jim Clark
3.Alain Prost
4.Sebastian Vettel
5.Juan Manuel Fangio
6.Michael Schumacher
7.Nigel Mansell
8.Gilles Villeneuve
9.Jenson Botão
10.Fernando Alonso
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Mario Andretti. Wins CART championship, wins Indy 500 and wins Formula One championship
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Vettel infront of Alonso and Schumi..
Vettel in front of Gilles...
Vettel in front of FANGIO???
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Gaston Mazzacane.. useless topic
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