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Gammelt indlæg #1 Skrevet Aug 22 2017, 23:02:22 Citat 
I'm currently trying to reduce my driver's oa in order to renew his contract. I lost a fair amount of motivation in the last 3 races however today my driver only managed to lose ONE point of motivation despite having pitted 6 times and finished 33th. Is this right?
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Gammelt indlæg #2 Skrevet Aug 22 2017, 23:18:34 Citat 
Depends on where you were on the grid. Start 30 Finish 33 not much loss in motivation.
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Gammelt indlæg #3 Skrevet Aug 22 2017, 23:41:19 Citat 
I thought this could be an issue, but on my last race I started in 33th and still was able to lose 52 points of motivation.
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Gammelt indlæg #4 Skrevet Aug 22 2017, 23:46:49 (senest redigeret Aug 22 2017, 23:47:58 af Roy Mitchell) Citat 
That was just one of the possible reasons. Beyond that I have no idea. Never been in that situation.
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Gammelt indlæg #5 Skrevet Aug 22 2017, 23:50:42 Citat 
Did you spend a lot of money before the race?
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Gammelt indlæg #6 Skrevet Aug 23 2017, 00:04:02 Citat 
Yeah I had to buy some parts, but I didn't spend more than 1/5 of my money.
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Gammelt indlæg #7 Skrevet Aug 23 2017, 00:31:37 Citat 
Going back to post 1 then yes the loss of 1 moti is understandable.
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Gammelt indlæg #8 Skrevet Aug 23 2017, 01:18:19 Citat 
Put in some offers for other drivers helps burn money fast. Debt is the easiest motivation killer but I guess if you want to progress maybe not the best... Would putting in offers for other drivers also decrease motivation because of being replaced or is this just some rubbish I heard?
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Gammelt indlæg #9 Skrevet Aug 23 2017, 17:44:19 Citat 
Thanks, David. Well, I guess I'll have to sign a new driver next season and start it all over again.
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Gammelt indlæg #10 Skrevet Aug 23 2017, 18:10:03 Citat 
If you have secured retention, you can also try to downgrade parts if you don't want to smoke, you'll save money and your pilot won't like it. The less you spent in doing your car better the most your pilot lose motivation.
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Gammelt indlæg #11 Skrevet Sep 18 2017, 21:14:10 Citat 
When -15M balance would cause motivation drop?
I have -17M now (after car upgrade), but motivation of my driver is still maxed at 250.

Or maybe I need to have -15M balance just after race, so my driver motivation would not drop if I earn few millions after next race?

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Gammelt indlæg #12 Skrevet Sep 18 2017, 21:15:39 Citat 
It will drop before the start of the race.

If you then earn money during the race to return above -15M, and you do well in the race, he might gain some motivation back. If you're still below -15M after the race, his motivation will definitely remain 0.
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Gammelt indlæg #13 Skrevet Sep 26 2018, 11:05:54 Citat 
I'm also a bit stumped with how difficult it is to improve my driver's motivation. Qualified 10th, finished 5th. Only downgraded 1 part. Ran a testing session and trained driver. Gained a paltry 5 motivation.

It's not easy to get good results in Pro, so I would've thought this set of circumstances would have boosted motivation a little more. I've also had top 10 finishes where my driver has lost motivation.

Considering how easy it is to lose motivation, I'm surprised it doesn't work a bit more the other way to be honest - makes it so hard to build any momentum and it just means if you luck out and have the first few races of the season as ideal weather type, everyone else finds it doubly hard to make up the ground.
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Gammelt indlæg #14 Skrevet Sep 26 2018, 11:18:18 Citat 
It's the same for everybody
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Gammelt indlæg #15 Skrevet Sep 26 2018, 12:10:37 Citat 
Quote ( Twig Fahaji @ September 26th 2018,11:05:54 )

I'm also a bit stumped with how difficult it is to improve my driver's motivation. Qualified 10th, finished 5th. Only downgraded 1 part. Ran a testing session and trained driver. Gained a paltry 5 motivation.



You didnt actually train driver in the way that loses mot did you?

I Qualified 7th finished 7th Mot went +23.
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Gammelt indlæg #16 Skrevet Sep 26 2018, 14:39:11 Citat 
Quote ( Michael Jones @ September 26th 2018,12:10:37 )

Quote ( Twig Fahaji @ September 26th 2018,11:05:54 )

I'm also a bit stumped with how difficult it is to improve my driver's motivation. Qualified 10th, finished 5th. Only downgraded 1 part. Ran a testing session and trained driver. Gained a paltry 5 motivation.



You didnt actually train driver in the way that loses mot did you?

I Qualified 7th finished 7th Mot went +23.


Yes, but I have accounted for that - so my motivation dropped due to the training, but then from there barely went up with the race result. I assumed that the moti-drop from fitness was a one off, and wouldn't roll over into the post-race motivation change as well.

The fact that you got +23 for 7th place is why it's frustrating, because it's clearly not "the same for everybody" as Brendan says! (Appreciate that there is probably some other nuance that I'm missing, but can't possibly think of what it could be).
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Gammelt indlæg #17 Skrevet Sep 26 2018, 14:42:53 Citat 
You guys are so lucky! :)
Qualified 7th, finished 5th, Mot -5.
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Gammelt indlæg #18 Skrevet Sep 26 2018, 14:59:49 (senest redigeret Sep 26 2018, 15:00:24 af Mikko Heikkinen) Citat 
Quote ( Twig Fahaji @ September 26th 2018,14:39:11 )

because it's clearly not "the same for everybody" as Brendan says!

or maybe it still is


Quote ( Twig Fahaji @ September 26th 2018,14:39:11 )

(Appreciate that there is probably some other nuance that I'm missing, but can't possibly think of what it could be).

How'bout this...

It's the same for everybody (manager), but not same for every driver.

Drivers do differ from each other and because of that they might react differently to events.
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Gammelt indlæg #19 Skrevet Sep 26 2018, 15:39:03 Citat 
Quote ( Twig Fahaji @ September 26th 2018,11:05:54 )

Qualified 10th, finished 5th. Only downgraded 1 part. Ran a testing session and trained driver. Gained a paltry 5 motivation.
Quote ( Stefan Olofsson @ September 26th 2018,14:42:53 )

Qualified 7th, finished 5th, Mot -5.

I got +2 moti for finishing 7th, nice to join you in the club :)
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Gammelt indlæg #20 Skrevet Sep 26 2018, 16:07:10 Citat 
Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ September 26th 2018,14:59:49 )

Quote ( Twig Fahaji @ September 26th 2018,14:39:11 )

because it's clearly not "the same for everybody" as Brendan says!
or maybe it still is


Quote ( Twig Fahaji @ September 26th 2018,14:39:11 )

(Appreciate that there is probably some other nuance that I'm missing, but can't possibly think of what it could be).
How'bout this...

It's the same for everybody (manager), but not same for every driver.

Drivers do differ from each other and because of that they might react differently to events.


Thanks for this insight Mikko, I did wonder whether a driver could be harder to motivate than another. Is there a 'tell' on this within his other attributes or is it a hidden trait (if there is such a thing)?

I don't expect you to tell me which attribute btw ;-)
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Gammelt indlæg #21 Skrevet Sep 26 2018, 16:17:15 Citat 
Maybe, just maybe there are other factors than driver attributes? ;)
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Gammelt indlæg #22 Skrevet Sep 26 2018, 16:33:25 (senest redigeret Sep 26 2018, 16:38:22 af Twig Fahaji) Citat 
Quote ( Stefan Olofsson @ September 26th 2018,16:17:15 )

Maybe, just maybe there are other factors than driver attributes? ;)


I'd both love and hate the idea that my driver can't be motivated because he is French :-p


I do have an idea actually, just checked your driver and it fits the theory...
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Gammelt indlæg #23 Skrevet Sep 26 2018, 16:51:51 Citat 
Do the bonus money amount influence the driver moti up?
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Gammelt indlæg #24 Skrevet Dec 2 2018, 01:00:32 Citat 
This season is almost end and there were many obstacles and difficulties. I lost my good driver because i hadn´t enough money to confirm and resume his contract before the Grand Prix in Czech.. It would have been his favorite track. Then it would have been good track to him and possibles to get many points.

My newst driver is still mystery.. Could he survive in the next two tracks and can take 4th position in Championship points. Possibly but it´s not easy work.

The next week seems our position. We would rise to the next level from Rookie cup. Whatever happens so we will continue our training, testing and driving courses in the future. We set a goal to win more and it needs hard work for the better investment.

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Gammelt indlæg #25 Skrevet Mar 23 2019, 00:42:00 Citat 
Good evening everyone,

Can someone explain this to me?
My driver qualify at 7 and he finishes at 5.
The driver obtained his first 4 points.
He also achieved the fastest lap during the race.

And his Motivation goes down by 3 points!!
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Gammelt indlæg #26 Skrevet Mar 23 2019, 01:04:42 Citat 
Those are NOT all the factors involved in building/dropping driver motivation, I'm afraid. You need to FOBY the rest :)
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Gammelt indlæg #27 Skrevet Mar 23 2019, 01:13:51 Citat 
Quote ( Peter Kandel @ March 23rd 2019,00:42:00 )


And his Motivation goes down by 3 points!!
GPRO logic!
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Gammelt indlæg #28 Skrevet Mar 23 2019, 01:36:35 (senest redigeret Mar 23 2019, 01:37:05 af Alessio Girasole) Citat 
Quote ( Peter Kandel @ March 23rd 2019,00:42:00 )

Good evening everyone,

Can someone explain this to me?
My driver qualify at 7 and he finishes at 5.
The driver obtained his first 4 points.
He also achieved the fastest lap during the race.

And his Motivation goes down by 3 points!!


Just read the previous posts on this very page and maybe you could find an answer
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Gammelt indlæg #29 Skrevet Mar 23 2019, 06:00:28 Citat 
Is it possibly related to PHA in some way. After all, that is a 'good' result for the driver.

Is he an old fart? :)
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