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..............Lord Minto's Dead Pool
| Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 |
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| George | Damir | Sebastian | | Lech | Ahmet | Phil | | Cameron | Mike | Tim | | Yug | Harsh | Andre | | Ivelin | - | - |
The Official VC 1.1
Group 3 (1) - Lech,
Not Voting (12) - George, Damir, Sebastian, Ahmet,
Phil, Cameron, Mike, Tim, Yug, Harsh, Andre, Ivelin.
Day 1 deadline is 05/06, Friday @ 20 CET.
With 13 players alive, 7 votes are required for an instalynch.
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Quote ( Damir Hictaler @ June 1st 2020,15:11:59 ) Just a continuation of wifom ... thoughts on lynching largest group on d-1?
Scum must know it not logical or smart that we do this, but when I see names in group 1 :)
Maybe all three are hiding there.
I wouldn't go for the largest group honestly. But it's all wifom I guess. If scums distributed themselves 1-1-1 we could easily avoid killing one extra townie. But again who knows how it is distributed, may be that 2-3 scums are in that group...
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Thanks Andre. I guess I will get to form an opinion of him on my own but until then I don't see the 1 and 3 as horribly imbalanced. Group 2 seems like it could be bait, but I guess scum could purposely make it such and then the bait assumption could also be used as a way to clear scum in group 2 should they not be lynched.
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Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ June 1st 2020,15:15:09 ) What does Cameron and Ivelin have to do with each other? Well, nevermind... :P
I have no idea about this, some cares to explain?
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Almost all the activity so far is Group 3. By Ahmet's law of GPRO Mafia they should be lynched already.
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Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ June 1st 2020,15:20:24 )
Almost all the activity so far is Group 3. By Ahmet's law of GPRO Mafia they should be lynched already.
I'm trying.
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I do think reading too much into how scum have filled out the groups isn't too good at this point. Sure it's interesting and it all we have right now but because this is something that scum themselves had control over and so they can shape this conversation.
Looking at actual players and how they play seems like a much better strategy going forward than saying "I wouldn't go for the largest group" or something this early.
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Quote ( George Slater @ June 1st 2020,15:19:02 ) Thanks Andre. I guess I will get to form an opinion of him on my own but until then I don't see the 1 and 3 as horribly imbalanced. Group 2 seems like it could be bait, but I guess scum could purposely make it such and then the bait assumption could also be used as a way to clear scum in group 2 should they not be lynched.
I think the groups are pretty balanced, yes. Group 2 is also not really imbalanced... it's just weird. I don't have an opinion on it yet.
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Quote ( George Slater @ June 1st 2020,15:23:28 ) Looking at actual players and how they play seems like a much better strategy going forward than saying "I wouldn't go for the largest group" or something this early.
Actually fair point George, it was just my initial thought :)
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Quote ( George Slater @ June 1st 2020,15:23:28 ) Looking at actual players and how they play seems like a much better strategy going forward than saying "I wouldn't go for the largest group" or something this early.
I think that is fairly obvious. Making strong assumptions such as that is scummy if anything imo.
There is perhaps merit in discussing /what/ scum behaviour would be like in this game. As Tim-O pointed out, if it's 1-1-1, maybe no behaviour is actually scum behaviour and we're all just shooting in the dark.
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Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ June 1st 2020,15:11:09 ) What do you think about our group?
I think it's supposed to be 'safe' as we're all players who can defend ourselves. (Maybe not seb - no offense, just going off the one and only game I've played with him where he did a jimmy)
It looks seb is hiding here, or it's supposed to look like that. Or it's you or Tim and later down the road it will look like it was seb.
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Quote ( Sebastian Jóźwiak @ June 1st 2020,15:25:34 ) Group 2 is also not really imbalanced... it's just weird.
Elaborate
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#102 is a Juniorism, the question is to Andre.
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Quote ( Phil Maunder @ June 1st 2020,15:31:19 ) Maybe not seb - no offense, just going off the one and only game I've played with him where he did a jimmy
No problem I really know how much did I screwed up there, and will do my best to be better this time :P
But yeah I don't really fit it this group based on the 'level of player' if that makes sense, I wonder why am I really in this group, maybe scums want to eliminate those 3 other strong townies by placing me in this group and making it look like I'm hiding... Or maybe it was random after all :P
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Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ June 1st 2020,15:32:11 ) Elaborate
Ahmet is Ahmet. He is a good player, but he is Ahmet. Weird guy. No offense here, i like weird, but he feels detached in that group. Mike seems more conventional and likes asking a bunch of questions but don't usually reaches too many conclusions with them. He seems to like reaction testing. I don't think he is weak or anything, it's just my point of view from what i've seen. Damir is Damir. He thinks he is great at mafia even though no one else thinks so. His opinions tend to be ignored. And you are the unknown to me.
The rest of the groups seems 'tighter' if you know what i mean.
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What do you think of your group, Harsh?
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Quote ( George Slater @ June 1st 2020,15:19:02 ) Thanks Andre. I guess I will get to form an opinion of him on my own but until then I don't see the 1 and 3 as horribly imbalanced. Group 2 seems like it could be bait, but I guess scum could purposely make it such and then the bait assumption could also be used as a way to clear scum in group 2 should they not be lynched.
Bait ?
So, group 2 is imbalanced, care to explain further?
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Damir didn't want to play my gun to head game :(
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Andre question about your game actually that I think of it. Is it just to involve people to speak their thoughts? Cause let's say most of us thinks it's 2-1-0, do we want to pursue this line of thought or just keep it at the back of the head in case of some future dilemmas?
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There are many ways to go i suppose... i have one idea in my head, but i'll save it for later once everyone had a chance to tell their opinions.
But you don't have to talk only about that, you can persue whatever line you feel like.
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##Vote Group 1
I'll stick to my wifom thoughts: scum counts that it's most unlikety that largest group would be lynched, so here it is.
Strong feeling that 2 scum will go down.
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Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ June 1st 2020,15:41:31 ) Damir didn't want to play my gun to head game :(
I missed it, I can't remember.
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Quote ( Damir Hictaler @ June 1st 2020,15:46:36 )
##Vote Group 1
I'll stick to my wifom thoughts: scum counts that it's most unlikety that largest group would be lynched, so here it is.
Strong feeling that 2 scum will go down.
How do you think scum divided themselves, Damir? 1 in each group? 2-1? All scum in one group?
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Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ June 1st 2020,15:39:23 ) And you are the unknown to me.
I am a boring player who often makes it to the end of the game cuz no one could care less.
Quote ( Damir Hictaler @ June 1st 2020,15:40:09 ) What do you think of your group, Harsh?
I considered George's bait theory for a short while, but I have decided to go back to my initial position. I think nothing of it.
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Quote ( Andre de Carvalho @ June 1st 2020,15:48:20 ) Quote ( Damir Hictaler @ June 1st 2020,15:46:36 )
##Vote Group 1
I'll stick to my wifom thoughts: scum counts that it's most unlikety that largest group would be lynched, so here it is.
Strong feeling that 2 scum will go down.
How do you think scum divided themselves, Damir? 1 in each group? 2-1? All scum in one group?
I think they went for conservative approach so groups are 5-4-4. They didnt go for 8-3-2 or something crazy.
But, when they choose 5-4-4, they put at least 2 scum in largest group because of reasons mentioned. It's really unlikely that town would get consensus about lynching largest group on d-1, too risky - IMO these are their thoughts.
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Quote ( Damir Hictaler @ June 1st 2020,15:46:36 )
##Vote Group 1
I'll stick to my wifom thoughts: scum counts that it's most unlikety that largest group would be lynched, so here it is.
Strong feeling that 2 scum will go down.
Fully expected this from Damir when I wrote #100. Clockwork really :)
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Quote ( Damir Hictaler @ June 1st 2020,15:40:09 ) So, group 2 is imbalanced, care to explain further?
I feel like Andre's description is fairly close to what I was thinking as well. Ahmet is really a good player but he's let's say unorthodox in his gameplay at times and it can draw attention to himself. Harsh is a fine player, not much to comment on there. Mike can be good but he's often lurky and indecisive. And you can get a bit too involved in your own theories.
I wouldn't say it's a horrible group, and it's hard to judge when other groups have people I've never played with before. My opinion is just that the people in it seem on average a little more likely to get themselves lynched.
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Quote ( Harsh Sheth @ June 1st 2020,15:54:24 ) Fully expected this from Damir when I wrote #100. Clockwork really :)
Still think it was pointless for me to say that? :P
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Quote ( Tim Wagner @ June 1st 2020,11:17:16 ) Interesting group choices. I didn''t expect even groups. So what do you think?
Has Mafia willingly put one of their members in each group, thus definitely lynching one of their own?
Or have they stacked 2 in one group less likely to be lynched?
Hey guys! It's been a while.
Would definitely do it as has been done here. Looks like a fairly even spread of people based on their experience. Probably the best risk/reward scenario. As to the exact lineup of each group I'm afraid I can't do much analysis at the moment, having sat a few games out I need to familiarize myself with you lovely people. All I would say is that it would be suicide to put one's buddy in one's own group.
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Quote ( Damir Hictaler @ June 1st 2020,15:12:44 ) Cameron and Ivelin in same group ... I just loled.
What do you want to infer from that, Damir?
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