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Gammelt indlæg #1 Skrevet Feb 9 2008, 08:00:02 Citat 
There is a little but maybe important bug on the 'game rules' page:

7.1
Any manager, who finishes in the top 4, but with a negative balance, will not be promoted, and instead the next highest manager with a positive balance will be promoted in their place.



As far as I remember, it was decided to change that into
'Any manager, who finishes in the top 4, but with a negative balance, will be relegated as well.'

This was, to avoid some people pretending to go into negative balance to stay at their league to earn more money.



If I am mistaken, please close... it is still early in the morning here.
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Gammelt indlæg #2 Skrevet Feb 9 2008, 08:48:01 (senest redigeret Feb 9 2008, 08:48:31 af Vladimir Alexandrov) Citat 
If you had read the next sentence you would see that:

Any manager who finishes with a negative balance shall be relegated to the division below.
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Gammelt indlæg #3 Skrevet Feb 9 2008, 08:48:36 Citat 
Case solved (:
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Gammelt indlæg #4 Skrevet Feb 9 2008, 09:05:21 Citat 
It was as simple as that, huh?
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Gammelt indlæg #5 Skrevet Mar 16 2010, 21:37:17 Citat 
"1.5 Points system

We use the official Formula 1 point scoring system where managers in positions 1-8 get 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 points respectively."

Official F1 point scoring system is different now :)
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Gammelt indlæg #6 Skrevet Mar 16 2010, 21:41:13 Citat 
Quote ( Lukas Jonaitis @ March 16th 2010,21:37:17 )

1.5 Points system

We use point scoring system where managers in positions 1-8 get 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 points respectively."


Fixed :)
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Gammelt indlæg #7 Skrevet Mar 16 2010, 21:42:40 Citat 
1.5 Points system

We use point scoring system where managers in positions 1-8 get 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 points respectively."


Fixed now :)

Hmm well i dont want them to change anyway.
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Gammelt indlæg #8 Skrevet Mar 16 2010, 21:43:38 Citat 
Quote ( Lukas Jonaitis @ March 16th 2010,21:37:17 )

We use the official old Formula 1 point scoring system where managers in positions 1-8 get 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 points respectively."

Even better fix. :)
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Gammelt indlæg #9 Skrevet Mar 23 2010, 13:02:09 Citat 
Rules got fixed. Sounds familiar. :)
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Gammelt indlæg #10 Skrevet Apr 13 2017, 12:39:33 Citat 
Sorry for bringing this up… this is a minor, minor thing... but anyway.

Section 1.1 of the Game Rules still mentions 625 Rookie groups while now they are 200.
It´s just a Find “625” Replace by “200” operation. Or adding something more generic or a side note stating that the number of Rookie groups can be adjusted to adapt to the number of new players.


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Gammelt indlæg #11 Skrevet Apr 13 2017, 12:52:16 Citat 
Quote ( Hugo Merlin @ April 13th 2017,12:39:33 )

It´s just a Find “625” Replace by “200” operation.
I agree, although I would hope Admins run it passed James first, It might cause him trauma if they just went ahead and changed it.
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Gammelt indlæg #12 Skrevet Apr 13 2017, 13:24:24 Citat 
I don't think he'll mind Jon, assuming they only change it once.
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Gammelt indlæg #13 Skrevet Apr 13 2017, 13:25:49 Citat 
Quote ( Miel Soeterbroek @ April 13th 2017,13:24:24 )

I don't think he'll mind Jon, assuming they only change it once.
:D
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Gammelt indlæg #14 Skrevet Apr 13 2017, 15:05:30 (senest redigeret Apr 13 2017, 15:05:41 af Jesús Pérez) Citat 
On "Promotion & Relegation" wiki page still sais "top 4" instead of "top 3" for promoters
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Gammelt indlæg #15 Skrevet maj 18 2018, 11:19:45 Citat 
The highest level of the game is Elite, below this are 5 Master groups, followed by 25 Pro groups, 125 Amateur groups and 625 Rookie groups.


Isn't that a little outdated?
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Gammelt indlæg #16 Skrevet maj 18 2018, 11:34:59 Citat 
At least the divisions stay still strong :D
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Gammelt indlæg #17 Skrevet maj 18 2018, 11:57:25 Citat 
7.1 Promotion/Relegation

"The bottom 15 managers from each group (excluding Rookie) will be relegated to the level below."

Let's take my group as an example:

/gb/Standings.asp?Group=Amateur%20-%2023

Managers on positions 31 to 40 are marked in red, and I thought these managers would, if these positions are held, be relegated. This would mean bottom 10 managers and not bottom 15 as specified in the rules.
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Gammelt indlæg #18 Skrevet maj 18 2018, 17:11:19 Citat 
Quote ( Markus Björklund @ May 18th 2018,11:57:25 )

7.1 Promotion/Relegation

"The bottom 15 managers from each group (excluding Rookie) will be relegated to the level below."

Let's take my group as an example:

/gb/Standings.asp?Group=Amateur%20-%2023

Managers on positions 31 to 40 are marked in red, and I thought these managers would, if these positions are held, be relegated. This would mean bottom 10 managers and not bottom 15 as specified in the rules.


It looks like rules'text was not updated ;)
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Gammelt indlæg #19 Skrevet Jul 18 2018, 00:08:13 (senest redigeret Jul 18 2018, 00:08:58 af Mike Bennett) Citat 
Not sure if this has been mentioned already.... somewhere else , But I believe that a slight correction is need with regards to rule 1.1 ?

/gb/GPRORules.asp#11-format

snippet here :-

"The highest level of the game is Elite, below this are 5 Master groups, followed by 25 Pro groups, 125 Amateur groups and 625 Rookie groups. "

I suggest perhaps the following amendment:- 93 - 125 Amateur Groups and 186 - 625 Rookie groups. The number of groups will vary as they are dependent on the number of active players.

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Gammelt indlæg #20 Skrevet Aug 7 2018, 08:14:41 (senest redigeret Aug 7 2018, 08:20:44 af Ioannis Kalogirou) Citat 
- Ones again, One Heretic Question from an Abnormal Greek:
...why the laps of Jyllands-Ringen are 136*2,3 = 312,8 Km
and Not 134.??? ...134*2,3=308,2 >305 as demand the Normality.!!!

- Thanks a lot for the Dislikes that you will run to put.!!!
:)
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Gammelt indlæg #21 Skrevet Aug 7 2018, 09:25:46 (senest redigeret Aug 7 2018, 09:26:43 af Graham Mercer) Citat 
Quote ( Ioannis Kalogirou @ August 7th 2018,08:14:41 )

- Ones again, One Heretic Question from an Abnormal Greek:
...why the laps of Jyllands-Ringen are 136*2,3 = 312,8 Km
and Not 134.??? ...134*2,3=308,2 >305 as demand the Normality.!!!

- Thanks a lot for the Dislikes that you will run to put.!!!
:)

Plenty of existing races that are as long or longer

Avus Germany 312.3
Jyllands-Ringen Denmark 312.8
Slovakiaring Slovakia 313.9
Brands Hatch United Kingdom 315.5
Rafaela Oval Argentina 317.3
Indianapolis Oval United States 804.4
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Gammelt indlæg #22 Skrevet Aug 7 2018, 09:54:57 Citat 
I agree that the devious of the game will indeed stay strong
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Gammelt indlæg #23 Skrevet Aug 7 2018, 10:11:03 (senest redigeret Aug 7 2018, 10:20:36 af Ioannis Kalogirou) Citat 
- My Old Friend Graham, I Know it.!!!
:)
...that's not Answering to my Question.

...I suppose that we correct the situation when we have the Opportunity, not continue the distort.-
...Already he have that problem after Brands Hatch is again on Calendar of F1...
...Inti Oval is a separate case.

:)




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Gammelt indlæg #24 Skrevet Aug 7 2018, 10:18:55 Citat 
Quote ( Ioannis Kalogirou @ August 7th 2018,10:11:03 )

- My Old Friend Graham, I Know it.!!!
...that no Answering to my Question.
:)



Graham is saying that races dont have to conform to 305km.
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Gammelt indlæg #25 Skrevet Jan 6 2019, 17:11:36 Citat 
Probably not worth a new thread, but could the following passage in game rules, please, be corrected or made more precise?

"The bottom 15 managers from each group (excluding Rookie) will be relegated to the level below."

I am back to Amateur after quite a while and just today saw in the standings, that the relegation zone in Amateur is just 7 managers wide instead of 15 managers as it used to be.
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Gammelt indlæg #26 Skrevet Apr 21 2019, 17:57:27 (senest redigeret Apr 21 2019, 17:58:27 af Michael Armbruster) Citat 
Quote ( Michael Armbruster @ January 6th 2019,17:11:36 )

Probably not worth a new thread, but could the following passage in game rules, please, be corrected or made more precise?

"The bottom 15 managers from each group (excluding Rookie) will be relegated to the level below."

I am back to Amateur after quite a while and just today saw in the standings, that the relegation zone in Amateur is just 7 managers wide instead of 15 managers as it used to be.


I am sorry to have to bring this issue up again.

But the rules haven't been corrected. Moreover, last season even the relegation zone in season standings was marked incorrectly in Amateur. For instance, in Amateur 4 with no additional promotions and noone in negatives, P33 didn't relegate, while the relegation zone in season standings starts at P33.

So could we, please, get a correction of the game rules and a correct marking of the relegation zone in season standings? For people trying to train up Rookie drivers in Amateur this information can be essential.

Thank you in advance! :)
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Gammelt indlæg #27 Skrevet Apr 21 2019, 19:17:26 Citat 
Quote ( Michael Armbruster @ April 21st 2019,17:57:27 )

But the rules haven't been corrected. Moreover, last season even the relegation zone in season standings was marked incorrectly in Amateur. For instance, in Amateur 4 with no additional promotions and noone in negatives, P33 didn't relegate, while the relegation zone in season standings starts at P33.


The rules are as correct as they can be having in mind the unstable structure of the pyramid. We will not update them every season when we add/remove groups. That's why the following is clearly stated in the rules:

Note that in case when the groups structure of the game is under ongoing expansion or reduction, a different number of managers may be promoted or relegated in the different classes of the game.


As for P33 in your example, from what I see he was saved by an inactive manager above him.
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Gammelt indlæg #28 Skrevet Apr 22 2019, 15:32:55 (senest redigeret Apr 22 2019, 15:39:34 af Michael Armbruster) Citat 
Thanks for the clarification, Vlad! :)

I didn't look for inactive managers in Amateur 4.

So I understand that the relegation zone is correctly marked in season standings and starts at P33 and if there is no manager in negatives above P33 and no inactive manager above P33, then P33 will be relegated. Correct?

P.S. Regarding the game rules, I understand that you don't want to change them too often. So what about just refering to the marking of the relegation zone in season standings, which you keep up-to-date, instead of making the absolute statement of the bottom 15 managers in each group except Rookie relegating?
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Gammelt indlæg #29 Skrevet Apr 23 2019, 21:04:09 Citat 
Quote ( Michael Armbruster @ April 22nd 2019,15:32:55 )

So I understand that the relegation zone is correctly marked in season standings and starts at P33 and if there is no manager in negatives above P33 and no inactive manager above P33, then P33 will be relegated. Correct?


Yes.

Quote ( Michael Armbruster @ April 22nd 2019,15:32:55 )

So what about just refering to the marking of the relegation zone in season standings, which you keep up-to-date, instead of making the absolute statement of the bottom 15 managers in each group except Rookie relegating?


I've added the reference. However I will not remove the absolute statement since it is still correct if the groups pyramid was in proper shape.
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Gammelt indlæg #30 Skrevet Apr 25 2019, 17:56:34 Citat 
Quote ( Vladimir Alexandrov @ April 23rd 2019,21:04:09 )

I've added the reference. However I will not remove the absolute statement since it is still correct if the groups pyramid was in proper shape.


That's great! Thank you! :)
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