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Ivelin Dobrev
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Vana postitus #1381 postitatud 6 Juul 2019, 16:40:30 Tsiteeri 
Yes, it all went as planned! :D

I’m gonna react to your reactions of course, but first thank you Riley for hosting!

Also thank you Grant for being a great teammate, we were basically fighting for who looks more townie :D

Thanks everyone for playing (even though some need to learn to not be a sore loser)! ;)
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Vana postitus #1382 postitatud 6 Juul 2019, 17:48:38 Tsiteeri 
Yes, thank you Riley, I don't think this was the most fun moderating experience ever but you did a good job.

We haven't gotten the most out of this setup yet in my opinion, I would be interested in trying it again some other time. I actually thought the setup is balanced in favour of town a bit, but with the way the roles were distributed it obviously fell completely in the other direction.
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Vana postitus #1383 postitatud 6 Juul 2019, 17:51:24 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ July 6th 2019,17:48:38 )

but with the way the roles were distributed it obviously fell completely in the other direction.


You can say that again
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Vana postitus #1384 postitatud 6 Juul 2019, 18:12:54 Tsiteeri 
LETS GOOOO!!!!!

Big ups to Ivelin, he killed it as scum.

Do want to give a shout-out to Jasper, I thought he played a great game as town and was consistently the voice of reason.

In the end, town ate themselves alive. Damir and Lyee both played like easy scum and set themselves up for lynch. Cameron was just unfortunate to be at L-2 with no scum on him.

GG
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Vana postitus #1385 postitatud 6 Juul 2019, 18:32:31 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( Grant Crouch @ July 6th 2019,18:12:54 )

Do want to give a shout-out to Jasper, I thought he played a great game as town and was consistently the voice of reason.

Thanks man. Unfortunately I put the pieces of the puzzle together much too late (or Day 3 was too short).

At the end of D1 and D2 I was actually trying to look a bit scummy but turns out this is a skill I lack. :D Or I only looked scummy in the eyes of those whose wagon I was pushing.
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Vana postitus #1386 postitatud 6 Juul 2019, 18:43:15 Tsiteeri 
Didn't have either of you as scum tbf, I should know by now that if Ivelin looks town, he is likely to be scum
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Vana postitus #1387 postitatud 6 Juul 2019, 19:13:29 Tsiteeri 
Lyee, you sound like Sudeep. You can't accuse everybody through the game and then when at some point you get it right to shout you were right.

You had Grant as town and me as your lowest scum read (out of 5) throughout the game.

Besides, your accusations in 1242-1243 were very weak and it was definitely confirmation bias. You disregarded all the other options that were equally if not more possible (including the one Jasper assumed) just because it didn't fit with your theory. Therefore, it was easy to defend it and others saw the weakness of the case.

You were all over the place and it was easy to make you look like scum and accuse you. I spent so much time arguing with you and therefore I looked active and didn't struggle for content.

With that said, you did have a few good theories and you asked the right questions (albeit to town players). Keep it going, but don't be all over the place and you will be a good town.
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Vana postitus #1388 postitatud 6 Juul 2019, 19:16:23 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( Alex Nikodem-Wing @ July 6th 2019,11:26:23 )

Do we have a mafia thread?
I think Riley wouldn't mind if I share it.

https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/uwPTXAMTzij
Cameron Halsall
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Vana postitus #1389 postitatud 6 Juul 2019, 19:22:30 Tsiteeri 
I'm just pissed I still haven't had a PR.
Ivelin Dobrev
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Vana postitus #1390 postitatud 6 Juul 2019, 19:29:31 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( Damir Hictaler @ July 6th 2019,12:07:20 )

After all, Damir rule should've been applied "If Ivelin is alive in D-3, he IS scum).
This is bullshit, especially in this setup. Guess I'm entering Kevin territory with that reputation. :P


Quote ( Damir Hictaler @ July 6th 2019,12:07:20 )

Also picked up that he didnt brag about being lynched as scum, said it, noticed it, but didnt really push, and other saw nothing suspitious.
I'm not gonna brag about it with no reason. I was planning to mention it when I got under pressure, but it never happened.

Well now I can brag about it. I still haven't been lynched as scum.

Damir, you are relying way too much on meta which is the weakest argument in Mafia.


Quote ( Damir Hictaler @ July 6th 2019,12:07:20 )

Grant was easy read, towards end he became very nervous.
That's why you read him as town for the biggest part of the game. :)
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Vana postitus #1391 postitatud 6 Juul 2019, 19:29:31 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ July 6th 2019,17:48:38 )

[i}I would be interested in trying it again some other time.


Make it Fireman Sam themed (Or Maples vs Oaks)
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Vana postitus #1392 postitatud 6 Juul 2019, 19:32:03 Tsiteeri 
Btw, the only two votes I got all game were joke votes in the first 24 hours of the game. :D
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Vana postitus #1393 postitatud 6 Juul 2019, 19:50:07 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( Lyee Chong @ July 6th 2019,12:51:32 )

Can I claim credit that I had gave town the last chance when i went hard on Ivelin over his scummy L1 on Tom :)
To be honest, I can't see how being (fake) cautious is scummy. There was some weak reasoning in it, but it was easy to defend and then you went into blue unicorn mode.
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Vana postitus #1394 postitatud 6 Juul 2019, 20:24:20 Tsiteeri 
Ivelin on QT:

I think we should prime Jasper. Some people find him scummy so less likely to attract protection IMO.

I *completely* missed this line of reasoning. That's a good lesson to learn.

I'm gonna start the day by asking Damir and Lyee to clearly give out their reads as they are confirmed town. We'll see where the wind blows then.

Yeah, called it...
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Vana postitus #1395 postitatud 6 Juul 2019, 20:41:26 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( Ivelin Dobrev @ July 6th 2019,19:29:31 )

Quote ( Damir Hictaler @ July 6th 2019,12:07:20 )

After all, Damir rule should've been applied "If Ivelin is alive in D-3, he IS scum). This is bullshit, especially in this setup. Guess I'm entering Kevin territory with that reputation. :P



Sorry, but this is true and you'll have to deal with this in future games.
One of the rules that really holds water and has a merit.
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Vana postitus #1396 postitatud 7 Juul 2019, 00:29:01 Tsiteeri 
First, big thanks to Riley for the host. You had a lot to deal with through this one.

When Grant/Ivelin started pushing me I had my concerns, but I just couldn't pinpoint it, so discarded it as OMGUS, especially after the responses I got after it. I did know though, that Grants further pushes on me were total BS. Congrats lads, you had us fooled.
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Vana postitus #1397 postitatud 7 Juul 2019, 01:04:14 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( Damir Hictaler @ July 6th 2019,20:41:26 )

Quote ( Ivelin Dobrev @ July 6th 2019,19:29:31 )

Quote ( Damir Hictaler @ July 6th 2019,12:07:20 )

After all, Damir rule should've been applied "If Ivelin is alive in D-3, he IS scum). This is bullshit, especially in this setup. Guess I'm entering Kevin territory with that reputation. :P



Sorry, but this is true and you'll have to deal with this in future games.
One of the rules that really holds water and has a merit.
In this setup it's crap. One of the main reasons I wanted to wait to ignite was exactly because of an argument like that. I wanted people to think I was primed and thus scum didn't want me lynched (just like Jasper thought in the end).
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Vana postitus #1398 postitatud 7 Juul 2019, 01:05:24 Tsiteeri 
I pushed and voted Tom right after Grant did for WIFOM. I thought if one of us gets lynched, this will be seen as an overly obvious scum push.
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Vana postitus #1399 postitatud 8 Juul 2019, 05:26:16 Tsiteeri 
Quote ( Damir Hictaler @ July 6th 2019,13:14:21 )

People must be aware that scum would never self vote as I did.
I said it during the game and I'll say it again, this is not a good strategy when town and the reason is exactly because it's so unlikely that scum do it that it becomes a perfect opportunity for scum to use WIFOM.
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Vana postitus #1400 postitatud 8 Juul 2019, 05:37:48 Tsiteeri 
Thanks, Riley for modding this fun game.

Congrats the scums, you deserved the win.

And apology to whoever got offended during the game, I think I shall play in a more civil manner in the future if there is still a chance :)



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