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Mensaje viejo #31 Publicado el 5-Nov-2019, 21:40:15 (última edición el 5-Nov-2019, 21:42:17 por Kevin Hottot) Citar 
Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ November 5th 2019,21:37:30 )

Quote ( Božidar Topčić @ November 5th 2019,21:15:01 )

Got one 20 mins ago :)
You pitted to have it fixed, the new ones are supposed to get fixed without a pitstop. Has anyone seen any of those?


It happened in Ama-20 on this race. I overtook a smoking guy for P24 on lap 63-65 then he stopped smoking, almost took his place back, and then he re-smoked.
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Mensaje viejo #32 Publicado el 5-Nov-2019, 21:55:52 (última edición el 5-Nov-2019, 22:06:59 por Stuart Aspey) Citar 
I started smoking around lap 51/52 and it stopped around lap 62/63 ill check after reset and come back with further details. I did not pit to fix the problem.

50 1:17.415 6 Soft Very Cloudy 28° 28% -
51 1:20.489 6 Soft Very Cloudy 28° 27% Car problem
52 1:20.200 6 Soft Very Cloudy 27° 27% Car problem
53 1:20.668 8 Soft Very Cloudy 26° 27% Car problem
54 1:19.866 8 Soft Very Cloudy 25° 27% Car problem
55 1:20.505 9 Soft Very Cloudy 24° 27% Car problem
56 1:20.172 9 Soft Very Cloudy 24° 27% Car problem
57 1:17.336 9 Soft Very Cloudy 24° 27% Resolved problem
58 1:17.468 9 Soft Very Cloudy 24° 27% -

Lap 51. The engine is losing power
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Mensaje viejo #33 Publicado el 5-Nov-2019, 23:46:50 Citar 
Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ November 5th 2019,21:37:30 )

Has anyone seen any of those?

A15. 1st place. Lap 34. Fixed in 7 laps
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Mensaje viejo #34 Publicado el 6-Nov-2019, 00:02:38 (última edición el 6-Nov-2019, 00:03:32 por Sébastien Boulanger) Citar 
@Stuart Aspey (A66)
@Raimonds Urtāns (M2)
@Emmanuel Manfre (E)

Did you use Go and experienced any problem in parsing Race Analysis ?
In my team, we have not encoutering the problem and i think it is possible that break the parsing...
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Mensaje viejo #35 Publicado el 6-Nov-2019, 00:04:05 (última edición el 6-Nov-2019, 00:05:27 por Emmanuel Manfre) Citar 
No problem for me
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Mensaje viejo #36 Publicado el 6-Nov-2019, 00:08:49 Citar 
Ok my dear World Champion :)

I wait for others to answer ^^
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Mensaje viejo #37 Publicado el 6-Nov-2019, 00:11:44 Citar 
Don't ask me as I'm not in A15..
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Mensaje viejo #38 Publicado el 6-Nov-2019, 00:15:15 Citar 
Sorry Raimonds :)

I've not see isn't you !
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Mensaje viejo #39 Publicado el 6-Nov-2019, 01:44:33 Citar 
Isn't this already in-game? You have an option "pit to fix" or "ignore & hope it doesn't make the rear wing fall off".

As for electrical problems, wasn't Murray always blaming those?

Somebody once joked, "Yeah, Murray, we had an electrical problem. A rod knocked the alternator off the block." ;p (That will cause the engine to lose fire. ;p )
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Mensaje viejo #40 Publicado el 6-Nov-2019, 11:53:40 Citar 
Quote ( Lorne Taylor @ November 6th 2019,01:44:33 )

Isn't this already in-game? You have an option "pit to fix" or "ignore & hope it doesn't make the rear wing fall off".


this is new where techs can get fixed without pitting..

From Change log::::

• Added a possibility for technical problems to be fixed remotely by your crew or by your driver. The chance for fixing such a problem will depend on your staff skills as well as certain driver skill.

• Fixed a bug in the race engine related to the option "If a problem occurs, should the driver pit if the problem can be solved?", when NO was chosen and the problem was solvable it wasn't solved at the next pit stop. Now it will be solved at the next scheduled pit stop.
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Mensaje viejo #41 Publicado el 12-Nov-2019, 22:58:42 Citar 
Your driver was not feeling well in his helmet and it had to be changed with a new one


like this is just bullshit. ruining the game
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Mensaje viejo #42 Publicado el 13-Nov-2019, 11:00:58 Citar 
Quote ( Neil Mulvey @ November 12th 2019,22:58:42 )

Your driver was not feeling well in his helmet and it had to be changed with a new one





like this is just bullshit. ruining the game

Shit happens mate, also in RL
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Mensaje viejo #43 Publicado el 13-Nov-2019, 11:33:05 Citar 
Quote ( Neil Mulvey @ November 12th 2019,22:58:42 )

Your driver was not feeling well in his helmet and it had to be changed with a new one


like this is just bullshit. ruining the game


Time to sack your driver!
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Mensaje viejo #44 Publicado el 13-Nov-2019, 11:35:34 Citar 
Neil....
You not running for promo this season as I see.
This same random happened to me... leading the race while I was in a 3 way fight for promo.... then it really sucks when you lose 10 points...

The way the random is called is just a piss take from Gpro ... some say it's humoristic..... web designers and game writers have strange humour I guess.

Tough luck Neil
We all get random.... u not alone

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Mensaje viejo #45 Publicado el 13-Nov-2019, 17:24:17 (última edición el 13-Nov-2019, 17:24:37 por Mikko Heikkinen) Citar 
Quote ( Neil Mulvey @ November 12th 2019,22:58:42 )

Your driver was not feeling well in his helmet and it had to be changed with a new one



Quote ( Mark Van Daalen @ November 13th 2019,11:35:34 )

The way the random is called is just a piss take from Gpro ... some say it's humoristic..... web designers and game writers have strange humour I guess.

Based on real life events

https://youtu.be/F0vdLNVLW4E
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Mensaje viejo #46 Publicado el 13-Nov-2019, 18:45:22 (última edición el 13-Nov-2019, 18:46:18 por Roger Bergman) Citar 
There is no point in saying that there is randomness in RL, if in many suggestions GPRO STAFF (and a lot of managers) says that Gpro has nothing to do with reality.

Example:
- 2 or more tires type per race.
- No refuel
Gpro isn't F1. This is a game. Not RL.

In contrast:
- Random.
It happens in real life.

Or we use the real life argument for all cases. Or never use it.
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Mensaje viejo #47 Publicado el 13-Nov-2019, 18:53:15 Citar 
I don't see why we can't have both. Gpro is trying to be realistic within some boundaries. The "gpro is not F1" is only an argument against making a suggestion based solely on being realistic, but without positive impact on the game.
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Mensaje viejo #48 Publicado el 13-Nov-2019, 19:34:04 (última edición el 13-Nov-2019, 19:42:39 por Roger Bergman) Citar 
The suggestion pleases me = "Just like real life. Good sugestion."

The suggestion does not please me = " Bad suggestion. Gpro is not RL."

Lack of consistency.

Everyone can be incoherent. As it happens in real life, too.

In the case of random, I see no negative side to removing random. Making gpro more unpredictable is an argument (beyond the old argument of RL) to mantain random, but not necessary for the game.

We have random weather. We have several different tires. PHA Match.
It will not be the random that will balance gpro.
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Mensaje viejo #49 Publicado el 13-Nov-2019, 22:45:59 Citar 
Quote ( Roger Bergman @ November 13th 2019,19:34:04 )

The suggestion pleases me = "Just like real life. Good sugestion."

The suggestion does not please me = " Bad suggestion. Gpro is not RL."

The problem with this bit, Roger, is that the response is generally "GPRO is not F1", not comparing it to real life.

Would the argument that "GPRO is GPRO, and GPRO has randoms" work better for you? Ultimately, that little element of luck is important in my opinion; I like the fact there are randoms in the game.
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Mensaje viejo #50 Publicado el 13-Nov-2019, 23:32:13 Citar 
Quote ( Mark Pinnick @ November 13th 2019,22:45:59 )

I like the fact there are randoms in the game.


.... as in real life...
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Mensaje viejo #51 Publicado el 13-Nov-2019, 23:39:28 Citar 
This game isn't particularly amusing to me much anymore. I play very relaxed, rarely watch races, and get most of my enjoyment from creating rivalries inside my head and chatting to my team mates and friends about the game.

I find randoms funny. Sometimes really funny, no matter who they happen to. Me, or a rival, or whenever it has some sort of significant impact on any race. I really like them.

I don't find this game very amusing, but randoms are pretty funny. Don't you dare remove them :D
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Mensaje viejo #52 Publicado el 18-Nov-2019, 20:05:18 (última edición el 18-Nov-2019, 20:06:06 por Roger Bergman) Citar 
No problem liking the GPRO random. The problem is that some people use the argument that random is good because it exists in F1 (in RL). And every suggestion that comes up, these same people say, "It's bad because Gpro isn't RL."

Those who find it fun to take random should be awarded 3 or 4 randoms per season to maximize their enjoyment. :)

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Mensaje viejo #53 Publicado el 18-Nov-2019, 22:52:06 Citar 
Funny thing, I guess it was an advantage for me but I don't believe it should be like this. I will not specifiy the race but recently I got the following:
Pit Pitstop reason Tyres condition
Fuel left Refilled to Pit time
Stop 1
(Lap 26) No more fuel was left 25% 1% 63 liters 23.138s
Stop 2
(Lap 53) The car had a technical problem 22% 1% 63 liters 18.800s

In fact the problem happened exactly at the same time as my plan stop. What is the funny part, my crew was faster than my first stop and I had no issue on that stop. Bytheway, in 18.8 sec they change tyre, change front wing and refuel.
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Mensaje viejo #54 Publicado el 19-Nov-2019, 00:31:57 Citar 
Bonus :)

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Mensaje viejo #55 Publicado el 19-Nov-2019, 04:22:53 Citar 
Quote ( Roger Bergman @ November 18th 2019,20:05:18 )

No problem liking the GPRO random. The problem is that some people use the argument that random is good because it exists in F1 (in RL). And every suggestion that comes up, these same people say, "It's bad because Gpro isn't RL."

Not quite.
They do say that some things shouldn't be in the game because GPRO isn't F1 but only when responding to someone who has already stated "this is in F1, why don't we have it here?"

As for saying something is good because it exists in F1, that they don't actually say.
What they are doing then is answering someone who complains about random by pointing out that it happens in real life too so that's not a reason to not have it in the game.
What it's not saying is: "I like randoms because it's in F1", but more like: "I don't see a problem with having randoms and they even have stuff happening IRL in F1".

Though I suspect most that believe the other way round will not be swayed by my ranting.
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Mensaje viejo #56 Publicado el 19-Nov-2019, 10:22:40 (última edición el 19-Nov-2019, 10:24:19 por Mikko Heikkinen) Citar 
Quote ( Jody Parker @ November 19th 2019,04:22:53 )

As for saying something is good because it exists in F1, that they don't actually say.

Indeed.

For example:


Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ November 13th 2019,17:24:17 )

(Mark Van Daalen)
some say it's humoristic..... web designers and game writers have strange humour I guess.


Based on real life events

https://youtu.be/F0vdLNVLW4E

the point of this was not to take a stand if randoms should be or not.

The point was that the event description (sick in helmet) isn't necessarily a figment of admins imagination, it might as well be a tribute to Webber.
(or someone else, there are also other examples)
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Mensaje viejo #57 Publicado el 19-Nov-2019, 17:12:12 (última edición el 19-Nov-2019, 17:13:22 por Roy Mitchell) Citar 
Things like 'oil' or 'puncture' are truly random. Most other 'events' are not 'random' but most often due to driver, part's wear and/or SET UP.

No need to get upset by something the game engine throws at you..

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Mensaje viejo #58 Publicado el 19-Nov-2019, 17:21:22 Citar 
Quote ( Roy Mitchell @ November 19th 2019,17:12:12 )

SET UP
You don't mean car "set up", do you?
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Mensaje viejo #59 Publicado el 19-Nov-2019, 18:05:36 Citar 
There's another 'set up'?

Brake bias, suspension and wing settings, that kind of thing will screw the handling of the car. Add a less than perfect driver and these 'random things' will occur.

In my experience here, it appears that 'Slides wide / overcooks corner / runs wide' these are the result of improper race set up.

As I said, certain events are 'random' and your number comes up. It can be devastating if in consecutive races even blow the season for you.

Personal experience S51 A39 R5 oil /R6 puncture /R8 oil & sick helmet, nearly made me sick on my PC. Went from 1st +5 points to 3rd -5 points and never recovered.

Sometimes... you are the windshield and sometimes... you are the bug.
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Mensaje viejo #60 Publicado el 19-Nov-2019, 18:19:16 Citar 
Quote ( Roy Mitchell @ November 19th 2019,18:05:36 )

There's another 'set up'?
Race "set up".
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