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#1 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 21:41:16
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This is going to annoy a lot of people, but I feel certain anthems are disproportionally longer than others. I guess this is because those anthems are traditionally longer in the real world. It would just be fair if everyones anthem had a similar playtime.
A particularly long one is Argentina's, which is a lovely piece of music but it appears to finish 4 separate times and then keeps going, for 4, almost 5 minutes. I'm not singling this out, and saying "make that one shorter" it's just the best example I have, so please don't kill me Flo! I enjoy hearing all the anthems, but perhaps these long ones can be replaced with abridged ones in the interest of fairness?
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#2 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 21:44:55
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#3 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 21:46:53
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Quote ( Chris Shaw @ June 21st 2022,21:41:16 )
This is going to annoy a lot of people, but I feel certain anthems are disproportionally longer than others. I guess this is because those anthems are traditionally longer in the real world. It would just be fair if everyones anthem had a similar playtime.
A particularly long one is Argentina's, which is a lovely piece of music but it appears to finish 4 separate times and then keeps going, for 4, almost 5 minutes. I'm not singling this out, and saying "make that one shorter" it's just the best example I have, so please don't kill me Flo! I enjoy hearing all the anthems, but perhaps these long ones can be replaced with abridged ones in the interest of fairness? What do you suggest the maximum length be then Chris?
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#4 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 21:46:57
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Shortening the anthem would be disrespectful and wrong.
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#5 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 21:48:43
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No one's forcing you to listen to the anthem. And in some cultures, interrupting or modifying (including shortening) an anthem can be considered rude. And who are you to tell anyone that they can't enjoy their 4, maybe even 5, minutes in the spotlight?
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#6 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 21:49:11
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So now the length of a countries anthem is a matter of fairness if it's too long for you?
This sounds like one of those "We're all winners" fairness things. Rodrigo has a good idea, find the mute button.
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#7 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 21:50:50
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It sounds like someone in trying to get nominated for the Oscars in the worst topic category
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#8 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 21:52:57
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My browser used to have a button to mute the incoming audio, not sure if it's still there but I've used that in past.
Yeah it is still there :P
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#9 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 21:53:24 (última edición el 21-Jun-2022, 21:53:47 por Grant Crouch)
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Word of advice, if your suggestion needs to be started with this introduction:
Quote ( Chris Shaw @ June 21st 2022,21:41:16 ) This is going to annoy a lot of people
Probably best to leave that one in the drafts.
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#10 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 21:54:34
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Quote ( Chris Shaw @ June 21st 2022,21:41:16 ) This is going to annoy a lot of people
doubt so...there is no sound of motors during the race, so the speakers can be eventually off...and you can also click on close button of winners pop up window ...
Some people just love to hear their national anthem...especially if they win
But I would be fine to have an option to choose between listening of the anthems or Sweet Caroline from Neil Diamond. To celebrate the finish line crossing... :-D
Some of us have nothing else to celebrate after race :-P
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#11 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 21:54:52
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Why is the Argentina national anthem shortened?
THE first Argentinian anthem was composed as early as 1810, before it was adopted as the official song three years later following the Revolution.
Its lyrics were written by the Buenos Aires-born Vicente Lopez y Planes, whilst the music was composed by a Spaniard, Blas Parera.
There is a long, anti-Spain section in the middle of the piece which has been omitted since 1924 - and the whole piece is extremely long.
As a result, in the Olympics, rugby games and at the World Cup, only the instrumental introduction (which lasts 1 minute 6 seconds) is played.
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#12 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 21:55:47
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Mike Googling for us all again :)
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#13 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 21:57:17 (última edición el 21-Jun-2022, 22:02:50 por Chris Shaw)
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Ok, perhaps a different angle here:
"Make anthems longer, with a few exceptions". Positivity eh?
Edit - where the abridged versions are used already.
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#14 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 22:04:38
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Quote ( Grant Crouch @ June 21st 2022,21:53:24 ) Probably best to leave that one in the drafts.
Freedom of speech. It's for everyone even if you don't like the opinion, easier to just say "disagree" instead of "if your opinions starts like this... leave that one in the drafts"
Quote ( Chris Shaw @ June 21st 2022,21:41:16 ) A particularly long one is Argentina's, which is a lovely piece of music but it appears to finish 4 separate times and then keeps going, for 4, almost 5 minutes. I'm not singling this out, and saying "make that one shorter" it's just the best example I have, so please don't kill me Flo! I enjoy hearing all the anthems, but perhaps these long ones can be replaced with abridged ones in the interest of fairness?
Although i get your point and i agree that some anthems are particularly long versions, i don't really mind. FIFA & the FIA & many other federations make some anthems shorter, but in this case GPRO doesn't have any post-race protocol to follow so... If anyone wants to keep listening to the anthem or not, that person is free to do whatever. + maybe the race winner enjoyed the full version so much hahaha.
Like i said, i get your point but since GPRO doesn't have to follow any post-race protocol i don't mind
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#15 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 22:09:49
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Should play the Ukraine anthem at each race !
I switch off and go to team at that point.. I hear no problem !
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#16 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 22:10:25 (última edición el 21-Jun-2022, 22:10:32 por Grant Crouch)
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Quote ( Ricardo A Ceniceros @ June 21st 2022,22:04:38 ) Freedom of speech. It's for everyone even if you don't like the opinion, easier to just say "disagree" instead of "if your opinions starts like this... leave that one in the drafts"
Cool. The same freedom of speech that allows me to tell Chris his opinion stinks and to put it in the drafts, right?
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#17 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 22:17:35
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Quote ( Grant Crouch @ June 21st 2022,22:10:25 ) Cool. The same freedom of speech that allows me to tell Chris his opinion stinks and to put it in the drafts, right?
You know how it goes for some....Rules for thee not for me.
Funny how they scream Freedom of speech as if it's a one way street.
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#18 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 22:25:13
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Quote ( Grant Crouch @ June 21st 2022,22:10:25 ) Cool. The same freedom of speech that allows me to tell Chris his opinion stinks and to put it in the drafts, right?
The same freedom of speech that would allow me to say that your way of saying "disagree" stinks.
Quote ( Ken Neihart @ June 21st 2022,22:17:35 ) You know how it goes for some....Rules for thee not for me.
The same freedom of speech that allows me to what the hell is this?
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#19 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 22:27:40
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Quote ( Mike Bennett @ June 21st 2022,21:54:52 ) Why is the Argentina national anthem shortened?
THE first Argentinian anthem was composed as early as 1810, before it was adopted as the official song three years later following the Revolution.
Its lyrics were written by the Buenos Aires-born Vicente Lopez y Planes, whilst the music was composed by a Spaniard, Blas Parera.
There is a long, anti-Spain section in the middle of the piece which has been omitted since 1924 - and the whole piece is extremely long.
As a result, in the Olympics, rugby games and at the World Cup, only the instrumental introduction (which lasts 1 minute 6 seconds) is played.
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All this copypasta just to get the facts wrong. GPRO uses our current full anthem (which btw lasts exactly 3:30 minutes and not "4, almost 5 minutes" as Chris stated) which does not include that anti-Spain part (basically because that version is not used since 1924 as you pointed out).
Sporting events use a shorter version due to one simple reason: you can't spend 3 and a half minutes just to one anthem.
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#20 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 22:32:18 (última edición el 21-Jun-2022, 22:33:08 por Grant Crouch)
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Quote ( Ricardo A Ceniceros @ June 21st 2022,22:25:13 ) The same freedom of speech that would allow me to say that your way of saying "disagree" stinks.
Great. Never said you couldn't. You however specifically told me I should've said "I disagree" instead of what I did say. This would be suppressing my ability to freely speak as I please.
I don't think you understand how freedom of speech works.
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#21 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 22:33:41
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Quote ( Vladimir Valis @ June 21st 2022,22:27:40 ) you can't spend 3 and a half minutes just to one anthem. I cant spend 3 and a half minutes doing most things these days!
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#22 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 22:35:33
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Quote ( Vladimir Valis @ June 21st 2022,22:27:40 ) which btw lasts exactly 3:30 minutes and not "4, almost 5 minutes" as Chris stated
I stand corrected, I took a guess from the race timer. Nothing against your anthem specifically.
Just to re-iterate why I'm requesting this, is that if a small handful are much much longer than the rest it seems fair to me that abridged ones would be substituted. It doesnt particularly bother me but when you're listening to it you kinda think "hey how come ours isn't that long".
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#23 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 22:37:31
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Probably still shorter than saying Pablo Picasso's full name
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#24 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 22:38:44
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Russian anthem should be shorter. Down to zero.
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#25 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 22:43:53
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Make the Scottish one like 2 seconds
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#26 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 22:45:26
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My anthem is bigger than yours
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#27 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 22:45:48
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Quote ( Diogo Abdalla @ June 21st 2022,22:45:26 ) My anthem is bigger than yours
Compensating for something, are we?
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#28 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 22:46:55
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Quote ( Vladimir Valis @ June 21st 2022,22:27:40 ) All this copypasta just to get the facts wrong.
What fact is wrong in my post ?
I do not say how long the anthem was-that was Chris you even agreed to that,
Quote ( Vladimir Valis @ June 21st 2022,22:27:40 ) GPRO uses our current full anthem (which btw lasts exactly 3:30 minutes and not "4, almost 5 minutes" as Chris stated)
Next you agree to this part in my post,
Quote ( Vladimir Valis @ June 21st 2022,22:27:40 ) which does not include that anti-Spain part (basically because that version is not used since 1924 as you pointed out).
and the last part,
Quote ( Vladimir Valis @ June 21st 2022,22:27:40 ) Sporting events use a shorter version due to one simple reason: you can't spend 3 and a half minutes just to one anthem.
This is what I posted, the anthem is too long for sporting events and is shortened.
So you have agreed with everything that I posted except for the one thing that I did not post which is the actual time of the anthem which Chris got wrong.
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#29 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 22:49:11
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To add onto this I think we should just outright ban certain anthems such as the British who seem to have outright copied the Americans and converted it into centimeters
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#30 Publicado el 21-Jun-2022, 22:51:11
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Quote ( Erik Harken @ June 21st 2022,22:49:11 ) To add onto this I think we should just outright ban certain anthems such as the British who seem to have outright copied the Americans and converted it into centimeters
QOTM
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