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Topic: Random is getting beyond a joke. |
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Quote ( Kristijan Mihovic @ December 21st 2019,10:33:34 ) P.s. I dont play socker manager games but question...do the players get sick there?
Worse - they get injured and can't play for several matches.
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Quote ( Kristijan Mihovic @ December 21st 2019,10:33:34 ) The game is better as little luck there is in the game and more knowledge. I think so too.
Quote ( Kristijan Mihovic @ December 21st 2019,10:33:34 ) One thing they should really change is sponsor leaving manager after random because this is really big thing. I've never heard that. Where do you get this from? There's reason - I think so.
Quote ( Kristijan Mihovic @ December 21st 2019,10:33:34 ) the players get sick there? I do not know.
Here, we need to introduce.
Get sick the pilot, the TD, the staff. ... or the whole stall.
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I love how every race this topic becomes number 1, i havent had many randoms Soi cant complain, but the salt is real. Right now im super salty because im in pro, with 4 points, which was really hard but im going to demote probably which sucks. Correct me if im wrong but i think mines the only pro group where 4 points is not enough. Im gonna be salty if a 5th place ama takes my place here
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In some groups people retain with 0 points, but it has allways been like this.
Lots of people relegated in the past with more points, 4 points in pro often isn't enough.
Last season in master I ended 28th, with 7 points, I retained barely. It happens, get used to it.
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Matthew .
Having 7 points isnt going to get you out of the red zone in Pro 15.
There is also couple more where more than 4 points is needed to retain at present.
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Random is part of any human driven system and a management game without any random would be boring...
Coming to "mechanical activities" either in real life or in "game" and not having any random would be just unrealistic !
Coming to sponsorship, did you remember that Peugeot Sport won 3 world WRC championship tittles in a row before getting Marlboro and didn't win any in red... big random for Marlboro
And yes, all the random are always coming right at the worse moment... as we all are Edward A. Murphy Jr's second cousin! He is well known as demonstrating that "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong"...
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Well, guys! Just have a look at the random that one of my lads got...
..." Your driver was not feeling well in his helmet and it had to be changed with a new one... "
Heheheheheh!!Now that is one hell of a RANDOM, spelled in big letters. Never hear of that one...wonder what they will be thought of next, as a random....
..."The driver forgot to pee and had to go to the pee potty" LOL. That´s the next kind of random. hehehehehe. Coming up next season. Go to the flea market and get a "pee potty".mates. Hahahahahahah LOL!
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Quote ( Tomás Coelho @ December 21st 2019,17:07:39 ) ..." Your driver was not feeling well in his helmet and it had to be changed with a new one... "
Heheheheheh!!Now that is one hell of a RANDOM, spelled in big letters. Never hear of that one...wonder what they will be thought of next, as a random....
Probably a tribute to Mark Webber
https://youtu.be/F0vdLNVLW4E
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You are probably right, Mikko. hahaha
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Imola and started 24th, by lap 4 i am up to 18th, no car problems expected but the my 3rd random of the season, 2nd in a few races, I am out on lap 7 but in 34th ruining my race yet again. I am seriously getting fed up with this. Planned and been waiting a week for this?
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3rd random of my first Elite season not including a start crash that finished a race and my rear wing braking twice in about 5 laps, was hoping to sign off my gpro career with points in Elite but it’s left a sour note on another wise enjoyable time and if I did decide to think about come back in the future this random business may stop me.
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That seriously sucks! Such bad luck.
Hope the disappointment passes soon and you remember the achievement of making it to elite. And that we do see you around again one day!
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Quote ( Paul Dove @ January 3rd 2020,21:08:34 ) 3rd random of my first Elite season not including a start crash that finished a race and my rear wing braking twice in about 5 laps, was hoping to sign off my gpro career with points in Elite but it’s left a sour note on another wise enjoyable time and if I did decide to think about come back in the future this random business may stop me.
From a probable p2, 8 points, straight to the relegation. Sorry, but this is gpro. Luck is as important as planning.
In one season, Sagatas took 3 random fights for an elite title, and the title fell into the hands of the lucky one. I don't even remember who was the champion that time.
I had 4 randoms (3 races of probable p6 to p8). But I'm used to taking 2-3 random per season. 3 randoms it is part of my planning.
In the only recent non-random season, I promoted to the elite thanks to Bontjer's bad luck (2 randoms in 4 or 5 races at the start of season 71).
Put luck / bad luck in the planning. Expect 3-4 randoms per season, although many managers have no random per season. This is gpro. Unfortunately, gpro is highly dependent on luck.
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Quote ( Rogerio Mandler @ January 3rd 2020,22:11:02 ) From a probable p2, 8 points, straight to the relegation. Sorry, but this is gpro. Luck is as important as planning. I mean Paul is retiring after the season anyway, so it's not like it really changed much in terms of relegation. However it does still leave a sour note for Paul without doubt
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2 tyre puncture in the last 2 races...
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Race 2, probably p3 (p5 in worst scenario).
Random. P16.
"Yesterday Season 74, Race 2 SPONSOR notified us that they are unhappy with your driver's performances."
With 2 podiums in a row, the sponsor would certainly not complain. Now one more random and bye sponsor. Thanks.
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Roger,
I got tired of losing sponsor because of random. Stop negotiate with sponsor. Thus, he will never terminate the contract by random. Joke, but with a good part of truth.
This is GPRO.
Random Q1 error. Random Q2. Random SC.
Random weather. Random fixable Random.
Understand this or stop playing.
I doubt that someday will decrease the incidence of random in gpro. I doubt they will ever balance the number of random per season between players. I doubt someday any manager will be an elite champion taking 3-4 randoms in the same season.
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How funny that someone had 3 randoms last season, didn't say a word about it in the forums and today is leading the Elite championship. :)
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Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ January 16th 2020,02:40:31 ) How funny that someone had 3 randoms last season, didn't say a word about it in the forums and today is leading the Elite championship. :)
I had 4 last season (only 1 in S72 / 0 in S71 / 2 S70...).
Dove had 3 last season.
Bert had 3 in master.
This will never change.
We have to try to stay in the upper groups. And when the random does not appear, try to promote. Try to win the championship.
Hopefully the title fight between Postle and Velske will be decided on the track. Not because one took 3 random in S74 and the other none.
And it would be good if the relegated 15 dropped because they didn't get good results, not because they took a random in 2-3 races where they would score points.
But again, I bet this will never change in gpro. This large number of random will never be changed.
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Quote ( Rogerio Mandler @ January 16th 2020,02:45:36 ) But again, I bet this will never change in gpro. This large number of random will never be changed.
Allow me to disagree with this statement. The random incidence was way higher before the energy implementation and had more financial impact before the fix tech problem implementation. Plus, the start crash random was improved when it was introduced the pit possibility instead of being automatically out of race. Additionally, the number of sponsor warnings was increased in order to support some unfair warnings.
Just some visible examples of game changes in order to improve the random incidence and impact. Even not yet being fully satisfied, I can not deny the effort.
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3rd tyre puncture in 5 races...
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Quote ( Iker Sanz @ January 21st 2020,22:12:41 ) 3rd tyre puncture in 5 races...
bad luck
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Quote ( Iker Sanz @ January 21st 2020,22:12:41 ) 3rd tyre puncture in 5 races...
Risks?
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A Champion Alpo Kaakinen stopped playing because of constant randoms. So yeah.. how about we get rid of it? It ads nothing to a game, just frustration.
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Why is this in the game? I was having a great fight in the lead, I was P1 on a 2 stop and P2 was catching me on a 3 stop, but it was ruined because of this mechanic
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Quote ( Sanjay Patel @ March 24th 2020,22:43:12 ) Why is this in the game? I was having a great fight in the lead, I was P1 on a 2 stop and P2 was catching me on a 3 stop, but it was ruined because of this mechanic
Probably one of your parts break down? And YES , that is totally the game intended!
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Quote ( Jay De Snoo @ March 24th 2020,22:53:52 ) Quote ( Sanjay Patel @ March 24th 2020,22:43:12 )
Why is this in the game? I was having a great fight in the lead, I was P1 on a 2 stop and P2 was catching me on a 3 stop, but it was ruined because of this mechanic
Probably one of your parts break down? And YES , that is totally the game intended!
Nope, it was a hydraulic issue and had to be checked
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Quote ( Laurynas Jurgelionis @ January 21st 2020,23:28:16 ) It ads nothing to a game, just frustration.
It actually add a little realism to the game.... New parts can and will break down, once in a while.. Frustrating "Shit happens" in real racing too (McLaren/Honda a couple of seasons ago comes to mind).... and yes I hate it too when it happens to me.
But too be fair to the game, Vlad removed randoms caused by high CTR, hence there are a lot less randoms than before.. Much better imo.
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Quote ( Atli Thor Johannesson @ March 25th 2020,12:04:37 ) Quote ( Laurynas Jurgelionis @ January 21st 2020,23:28:16 )
It ads nothing to a game, just frustration.
It actually add a little realism to the game.... New parts can and will break down, once in a while.. Frustrating "Shit happens" in real racing too (McLaren/Honda a couple of seasons ago comes to mind).... and yes I hate it too when it happens to me.
But too be fair to the game, Vlad removed randoms caused by high CTR, hence there are a lot less randoms than before.. Much better imo.
Sorry but I don't agree with the 'realism' argument. If we wanted it to be realistic it would happen much more frequently and we would see on track collisions and other such things.
The point of randoms is surely to make the planning aspect a little less full proof, meaning that no matter how much you plan, there is always a chance something unexpected can happen.
The question is therefore: Do we need this unexpected element or would everyone be happier being able to plan reliably? I can see both sides of the argument (can probably see more cons than pros) but don't think "realism" should come into it.
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