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Quote ( Jukka Sireni @ December 12th 2018,18:13:13 ) I don't see one could achieve much with the 2nd part.
Now i got a promoted sponsor, if i dont acept it and relegate i will keep it indefinitely.
If i do it a few times ....
Edit: or ...i´m i missing something?
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Quote ( Nuno Vicente @ December 12th 2018,18:36:55 ) Edit: or ...i´m i missing something?
Kind of, yes.
The more you have promo sponsors, the less spots you have for negotiations, so there is no quick way to profit. Of course, you can have more sponsors than negotiation slots. But...
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That's true Jukka, but promo sponsor are easier to please once they're on the car. Surely could be beneficial in (for instance) two OBP seasons in E once a manager deems it ready for a prolonged stay in E
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I´m i really talking with Jukka ....the chapion player?!
At Master i never negociate with more than 2-3 sponsors ...and at Elite....its better don´t even talk about it ..... so i guess i will have plenty space for 4-5 promoted spoonsors for blow them all at the same time when one day i reach elite ..... but i will ask again:
I´m i really talk with an experiente manager?!
Edit: or maybe i´m missing something ....
Edit2: you are saying that if i not acept my promo sponsor ... that i will lose some progression?!
If is the normal thing .... everyone can live with that.
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Quote ( Nuno Vicente @ December 12th 2018,18:54:14 ) I´m i really talk with an experiente manager?!
I have 1 season experience of Ama, how should I know.
But yeah, I was kind of thinking of collecting lots of promo sponsors, while it's better to leave them to 4-5 to be able to negotiate with others. But, you can stockpile other sponsors too, so the only difference is that promo sponsors are safer.
So, I admit that with good planning and a little bit of luck you can get plenty out of it. But with good planning and a little bit of luck you can get plenty out of normal sponsors (and can negotiate with plenty of sponsors in Master).
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Quote ( Nuno Vicente @ December 12th 2018,18:54:14 ) Edit: or maybe i´m missing something ....
what if every single promo sponsor you get will be for your rear wing only? ;)
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What you guys think Jan Velske has been planning to do all along? :P
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Quote ( Jukka Sireni @ December 12th 2018,20:09:44 ) the only difference is that promo sponsors are safer
Only.
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Really only? Is it ok that you can accumulate promo sponsors?
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i think that instead of accumulating promo sponsors, it should be more fair to be able to select promo sponsors
e.g. A manager with a pro to master promo sponsor who promotes from master to elite while the first sponsor contract hasn't been activated, will be able to select just one of the sponsors
So a manager we still be able to have two promotion sponsors in elite (one activated race 16 of master promo season and one in elite) , but no manager will be able to have more than one stored promo sponsor.
i also suggest the extra sponsor to be given in any manager in any group (from pro and above) who stays in the group, is not a promoter (nor a top-3 finisher in elite) and doesn't have an active or stored sponsor contract.
OBP and good planning strategies will be possible, but storing sponsors by managers without even 1 active sponsor will not be the most sensible thing to do.
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Quote ( Florencia Caro @ December 12th 2018,20:31:26 ) What you guys think Jan Velske has been planning to do all along? :P
I honestly have no idea. Wonder if he does :D
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Quote ( Jukka Sireni @ December 12th 2018,20:09:44 ) I have 1 season experience of Ama, how should I know.
I have double :)
I arrived from work and read my post, and .... i was a bit agressive, sorry for that, .....but i couldn´t believe that you didn´t know what i was talking about.
I've said it before, I do not criticize anyone who accumulates money, whether in the account or through sponsors, because it´s the only way to break into the top 5 at Elite.
I just wish that it was diferent .... but i´m a dreamer, maybe after this season i will finally wake up from a dream that last ... maybe 10 years?! and join Flo :)
Quote ( Evaldas Ruseckas @ December 12th 2018,20:10:55 ) what if every single promo sponsor you get will be for your rear wing only? ;)
Well, maybe you are right ... mine is for that place also, and if that´s the case then .... Quote ( Nuno Vicente @ December 12th 2018,18:54:14 ) i´m missing something ....
But still is an advantage, maybe you can´t win the title at the first promotion season, but you will have one more sponsor for the first crucial seasons.
Maybe i will try to store the second to find out :)
Imo, promotion sponsors are for giving a help to the promotion season, so they should be automatically activated.
the exception wouldd be if you had all the spots full, or full and with ongoing negotiations for all the places, for ex. if for Rear wing you have a sponsor activated for some races and are negotiating with a sponsor with x% of progress for the rear wing also, and for all the other places same thing is happening, then and only then sponsor have to wait, but it should be activated asap, if a free spot appears and the sponsor that was on ongoing negotiations reach the 100% and weren´t activated, then the promo sponsor should be automaticaly activated instead or activated when both end the contract.
summing up, promotional sponsors should have priority over any sponsor who has not yet chosen the spot or new sponsors.
But I do not know if I'm forgetting any more exceptions.
or alternatively create a special spot that can only be filled by these sponsors....but only after more sponsors at Elite, or we will lose one of the few weapons to attack top elite.
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They could start with making promotion sponsor amounts less random for a start. But what do I know. Everyone loves randoms in GPRO
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Quote ( Nuno Vicente @ December 12th 2018,23:40:14 ) I have double :) Keeney, can you comment it?
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Quote ( Alexei Malkin @ December 13th 2018,04:05:55 ) They could start with making promotion sponsor amounts less random for a start
Please implement also less random promotions. Can't believe how keeney could get in here.
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He sent a holiday request to Guarav
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Quote ( Nuno Vicente @ December 12th 2018,18:36:55 ) Quote ( Jukka Sireni @ December 12th 2018,18:13:13 )
I don't see one could achieve much with the 2nd part.
Now i got a promoted sponsor, if i dont acept it and relegate i will keep it indefinitely.
If i do it a few times ....
Edit: or ...i´m i missing something?
You are missing relegation taxes maybe? You dont think you would bring 200M back down to amateur do you?
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You can make 200M in two seasons very easily.
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Quote ( Michael Keeney @ December 13th 2018,02:47:55 ) They could start with making promotion sponsor amounts less random for a start. But what do I know. Everyone loves randoms in GPRO
The random range is quite short actually. Me and Yug both promoted last season and got nearly the same offer, there might have been a few $$$ and 1 Race of difference but it was close enough.
Quote ( Alexei Malkin @ December 13th 2018,08:44:06 ) You can make 200M in two seasons very easily.
Yes but no point in bringing 200M to pro to relegate, in any circunstance ir just feels like a waste of time to me. Noone needs to relegate with 200M ar the start of a season
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It's enough to earn it only once
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Morning everyone.
Good luck this season. This place will be a lot quieter, I'm taking a perma ban. I'm sick of certain individuals getting away so blatently with mutliple DAs and then complaining to GPRO after they goad me on the forums.
As you all know I love GPRO but I'm sick of fighting the same fight. I've helped towards closing many DA accounts. Can I just insist that you all continue to log any possible DAs to shadow. Like I've said all along, DAs won't affect us much but has a huge say on retention at lower levels when 100s of promotion slots are taken from DAs. Quite frankly gpro don't care anywhere near as much as I do, I dont have the energy for it anymore. Someone behind the scenes doesnt have the balls to tell the DAs to wind their necks in.
I'll continue to race but that's it.
To those DAs reading this now and who also contacted me recently. You're complete pricks.
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Playing the victim card doesn't suit you Keeney. Keep that big mouth active on these forums, come on!
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Quote ( Michael Keeney @ December 13th 2018,11:03:08 ) I'm sick of certain individuals getting away so blatently with mutliple DAs and then complaining to GPRO after they goad me on the forums.
just don´t answer them mate.
Quote ( Miel Soeterbroek @ December 13th 2018,11:27:05 ) Keep that big mouth active on these forums, come on!
+1
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It's gonna be so much fun this season :) <3
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Indeed it will ;) Robert finally BR :P
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Well, I have to admit the I broke that Pipi cartel this season. I chosen Avonns this time. Shame on me!
I msiclicked Yokos...
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Then you misspelled to make your statement believable
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Why only Elite has hidden tyre choices? I mean I get it that you guys fight for championship but essentially it is the same in lower groups. Revealing our tyre choices gives away valuable info to others.
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Well, I've managed to hang around for 1 more season here.....Who will do well this season and who will surprise?
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Good luck to all this season!
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Quote ( Martin Rosina @ December 14th 2018,10:24:35 ) Why only Elite has hidden tyre choices? I mean I get it that you guys fight for championship but essentially it is the same in lower groups. Revealing our tyre choices gives away valuable info to others. let's start to hide for amas
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