Yeah, looks like there's no place for Vettel on the grid now. Renault better get ready for all the negative publicity they are gonna get for their engine ;)
Quote ( Sudeep Pednekar @ July 7th 2020,16:48:30 )
Yeah, looks like there's no place for Vettel on the grid now. Renault better get ready for all the negative publicity they are gonna get for their engine ;)
Yeah, Vettel should probably try to use another series to keep him fit for a return if a option arises (such as Karthikeyan, used the NASCAR World Camping Series to keep him fit), but unlike Karthikeyan, Vettel probably won't be in a crappy car (such as Alfa Romeo and Williams) and will possibly go to Toro Rosso if Kvyat has a crap year
Alonso is confirmed at Renault next year alongside Ocon :)
(by the way, does F1 broadcasting put the most annoying sounding people on for a reason or what? I know a lot of British guys and they don't sound like this)
(by the way, does F1 broadcasting put the most annoying sounding people on for a reason or what? I know a lot of British guys and they don't sound like this)
British broadcasting accent really bugs me too. I dunno what it is but when people get behind a camera and present something, or are narrating, or interviewing or whatever it is, they put on some ridiculous accents. One person that doesn't do it and talks like he would in any other conversation is Button.
Perfect example is Nicholas Crane from BBC's Coast. Sounds fine until you specifically listen to how he ends every one of his sentences when he's narrating or presenting, and then you can't unhear the dumb way he decides to speak :D https://youtu.be/drGZKt_DzaQ?t=6
British broadcasting accent really bugs me too. I dunno what it is but when people get behind a camera and present something, or are narrating, or interviewing or whatever it is, they put on some ridiculous accents. One person that doesn't do it and talks like he would in any other conversation is Button.
Personally I don't find it annoying at all and you do have to remember the F1 videos are going out to a worldwide audience and Will Buxton having an easier to understand accent will mean that people who speak other languages will be able to understand him better and will consume more F1 content because of it. Also, I think it should matter more how good the presenter is at their job than if their accent sounds good or not.
I'm talking more about the voices than the accents. They sound like sissy boys. I work in construction industry in Australia which has a lot of British people from all over the island and I haven't met a single British person who sounds like Murray Walker, Martin Brundle, James Allen (ok there's 1 person I know who sounds like James Allen but I haven't met him in person) etc etc ... why do the f1 commentators have to sound so damn annoying like they've got a peg on their nose or had their voice box kicked in? It honestly makes you Brits like that if someone hasn't met you all in person. So annoying to hear the commentary sometimes. :D
But back to topic ... who thinks Alonso can get another podium before he has his last race?
Quote ( Sudeep Pednekar @ July 9th 2020,08:33:25 )
He might get a podium if there are 10 retirements like the last race
right on :)
I thought Alonso left the sport cos he felt he'd done - and achieved - all he could. If he thought he could do more, he should have stuck around cos McLaren would at least have given him a genuine chance of front end success next season. Coming back to re-join with Renault? I don't see why he'd find that exciting...and so I see he made some nostalgic tweets and stuff on social media. I feel this nostalgia will soon get washed out when he's racing in the same car that he took the piss out of Jolyon Palmer not that long ago and probably not achieving much better. Maybe Jolyon will have the last laugh and say "who is this guy?" :)
He said he left because it'd gotten boring and predictable. Presumably with next year's rule changes he hopes it'll be more exciting, and he's probably missing it more than he thought he would anyway.
I really think he made his peace with not winning races during all those years at McLaren. As long as he gets into some decent midfield scraps and has a mostly reliable car he'll be happy enough, and there's always the outside chance he flouts his age, amazes everyone and ends up in a competitive car for 2022 or 23.
Kinda thrown out the window.... but it occured to me that a really weird sequence of events were in the works.
Provided Alonso had not come back If vettel had not found a drive for next year Let's say Kimi retired after this season (fairly possible) And hamilton won the championship this season (again fairly posskble)
In that scenerio.... Hamilton would be the only world champion starting the season next year?
Still fairly possible that hamilton and Alonso are only champs starting next year.
Yeah with 5 championship-contending-class ferrari academy drivers coming through F2 this season, Kimi's and maybe even the Haas boys' days are numbered.
Yeah with 5 championship-contending-class ferrari academy drivers coming through F2 this season, Kimi's and maybe even the Haas boys' days are numbered.
Agreed.
I actually think there'll be big shake ups over the next two seasons
Quote ( Sam Wainwright @ July 10th 2020,13:52:54 )
In his current form would you want to bring him into any team?
Sure.
If I were a team manager I'd rather have him over: Perez Stroll Kvyat Gasly Grosjean Magnussen Latifi
I can see where he wouldn't have a chance at racing point, even though that keeps coming up as an option (Perez is under contract and are they really going to fire the boss's son?).
If he were willing to take a significantly reduced salary for a 1 year contract and I were the team manager at Haas, toro rosso or williams I'd jump at the chance.
The press he would generate would be enough to make it worthwhile ... make the sponsors happy.
If Vettel joined a mid-field team he would get his passion back as long as his expectations are to get close to podium to prove he can outperform the car. Put him in the mid-field for a few seasons, see if he can prove his legitimacy, then go from there.
2019 absolutely wrecked him. He got outperformed by a noob, he did a lot of questionable driving moves, and became the new Grosjean or Maldanado of F1 for a while. If he, for example, joins Alfa Romeo (stretch i know), knowing he will be happy with a few points, he'll start to get his passion back.
The question is WHY do drivers always fall the the same crap Ferrari say to them?
If Vettel joined a mid-field team he would get his passion back as long as his expectations are to get close to podium to prove he can outperform the car. Put him in the mid-field for a few seasons, see if he can prove his legitimacy, then go from there.
2019 absolutely wrecked him. He got outperformed by a noob, he did a lot of questionable driving moves, and became the new Grosjean or Maldanado of F1 for a while. If he, for example, joins Alfa Romeo (stretch i know), knowing he will be happy with a few points, he'll start to get his passion back.
The question is WHY do drivers always fall the the same crap Ferrari say to them?
IKR, Raikkonen fell for the same crap when he join Alfa Romeo - could of joined Toro Rosso, but no, went for a team which is now proper crap cause they lost Leclerc.
Nah, 2019 just highlighted his shortfalls more severely, Vettel "was" a one trick pony.. pole position --> get out of drs in 2 laps --> win the race for him to get 1 trophy was lucky.... 4 gets him mixed up with the best by default
he wont drive a midfield car because he lacks something when it comes to wheel to wheel combat,, most of those guys in DD's list would do better over a season, on average racing in the mid pack,, maybe money could make it work somewhere,, but I doubt it, he was on the slide well before 2019.
E: must say he has become a more likeable guy over recent seasons,, you can tell he is a nice family man.. even though I don't rate him, be nice if he got a decent seat again sometime, if he has the desire.
If Vettel joined a mid-field team he would get his passion back as long as his expectations are to get close to podium to prove he can outperform the car. Put him in the mid-field for a few seasons, see if he can prove his legitimacy, then go from there.
2019 absolutely wrecked him. He got outperformed by a noob, he did a lot of questionable driving moves, and became the new Grosjean or Maldanado of F1 for a while. If he, for example, joins Alfa Romeo (stretch i know), knowing he will be happy with a few points, he'll start to get his passion back.
The question is WHY do drivers always fall the the same crap Ferrari say to them?
I agree, Vettel has got increasingly worse in the past few seasons and you can see it from his mistakes. In 2018 many of them were from contact with other drivers like Hamilton at Monza and Riccarado at COTA but in 2019 mistakes came on his own like Bahrain and Monza and that mistake last weekend was the worse of them all for me.
Although, I think he can still comeback from these as maybe they we due to the pressure or that he wasn't happy in the more recent Ferrari car or with the team as a whole.
From 2010 - 2017 he was great winning 4 World Championships and bringing Ferrari from a car struggling for podiums to a championship contender, but now he needs a new start at a team which doesn't have the pressures of Ferrari and hopefully he can find that magic he had and prove people calling him a 'one trick pony' wrong.
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