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Quote ( Daniel Douglas @ June 26th 2020,22:27:53 ) Quote ( Rogerio Mandler @ June 26th 2020,22:26:43 )
This is the "fantastic" random factor, which gives joy to those who never take random.
Most things that people claim are random.... are not.
Most things that people claim are broken .... are not.
Most manager's that claim they know what they are talking about .... do not.
And above all else.
Every Daniel is a fool and knows nothing ;)
Especially Mason
You for example.
In the elite, 5 races ago, 0/3/76 mantain position ... SC Dimitroglou. Certainly few in the elite with less risk than that.
Bert, R2 avoid trouble, high CT, low OT Risk/Block Risk. Crash.
The random is so big that you can have start crash with 0/0/0 avoid trouble (I know 2 friends who hit like that). And it is possible not have start crash with 100/100/100 force to the front (race 16-17, nothing to lose - smoking race - a lot of people use these risks without problem).
If you want, you can search and see someone with +5 or +7 in the elite, in the master, forcing to the front without start crash. And there is no logical sense, accounting for risk free, from overtake / block only in lap 1.
If it were possible, surely everyone would Overtake 0 block 0 / CT 0 on lap 1 / force to the front.
And in lap 2 everyone would choose their "normal" risks, because in lap 2+ nothing causes a crash.
Overtake 100 against block 100 = 0% chance of CRASH. Only random chance.
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#32 posted Jun 26th 2020, 23:01:03
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Quote ( Rogerio Mandler @ June 26th 2020,22:51:29 ) You for example.
In the elite, 4 races ago, 0/3/76 mantain position ... SC Dimitroglou. Certainly few in the elite with less risk than that.
Bert, R2 avoid trouble, high CT, low OT Risk/Block Risk. Crash.
The random is so big that you can hit 0/0/0 avoid trouble (I know 2 friends who hit like that). And it is possible not to hit 100/100/100 force to front.
If you want, you can search and see someone with +5 or +7 in the elite, in the master, forcing to the front without start crash. And there is no logical sense, accounting for risk free, from overtake / block only in lap 1.
If it were possible, surely everyone would Overtake 0 block 0 / CT 0 on lap 1 / force to the front.
And in lap 2 everyone would choose their "normal" risks, because in lap 2+ nothing causes a crash.
Overtake 100 against block 100 = 0% chance of CRASH. Only random chance.
Yes, statistics are completely broken.
Because something that has a very low chance to happen should never happen.
And something that has a very high chance to happen should always happen.
That's how life should be .... ie 1% should be 0 and 99% should be 100.
Right?
At least that's how I understand statistics and percentages.
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What wrong with your server....makes sense...
It would be much better if among those who force to the front, all the strikes happened. And few escaped without a problem.
Overtake where possible it should be possible to have many mistakes on lap 1. And rarely SC.
Maintaining position should be impossible have SC, but it could have a mistake on the first lap.
Avoid trouble, it should be impossible have SC / Mistake, because it is usually bad to lose 4-5 positions because you are conservative.
It would be much more logical. Much more real. Much more fun.
5 Random in the Master. Terrible. And there are people who think it's normal. On the day that you take 5 random in ONE season, I want to see you get a master maintenance.
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#34 posted Jun 26th 2020, 23:21:07
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Quote ( Daniel Douglas @ June 26th 2020,23:01:03 ) ie 1% should be 0 and 99% should be 100.
Sounds a bit like GPRO weather forecast :)
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#35 posted Jun 26th 2020, 23:21:57
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I blame the server for me not being in Elite. JS
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I think these many statistics are superfluous.
Rather, staff should focus on eliminating the shortcomings of the game.
What did Curchill say about statistics?
Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ June 26th 2020,23:26:19 ) You talk about random, but it's not Mikko: Do you know everything? Clarify the secrets!
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#37 posted Jun 26th 2020, 23:26:19
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Quote ( Rogerio Mandler @ June 26th 2020,23:16:55 ) 5 Random in the Master. Terrible. And there are people who think it's normal.
You talk about random, but it's not
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Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ June 26th 2020,23:26:19 ) Quote ( Rogerio Mandler @ June 26th 2020,23:16:55 )
5 Random in the Master. Terrible. And there are people who think it's normal.
You talk about random, but it's not
For me, in my experience, with high risk, more force to the front, there is a 15-25% chance of SC. 4 in a row is very very very very very very very random.
Does your statistic predict a 99% chance of SC?
And in one race at least he used overtake where possible. Everything between 1 - 99% is RANDOM.
IF 20-25% of chance and SC...random.
IF 4 times of 20-25%, 4 SC...BIG RANDOM.
IF you starts in RAFAELA OVAL with engine 100% (as i did)... HIGH chance of smoke / break.
If it breaks, normal.
If you finish the race, RANDOM (for good). I completed Rafaela Oval against logic.
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Quote ( Tibor Szuromi @ June 26th 2020,23:25:43 ) Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ June 26th 2020,23:26:19 )
You talk about random, but it's not
Mikko: Do you know everything? Clarify the secrets!
You yourself have 888 races and 1 start accident.
One could imagine you know already... that's really not random, your choices are behind that
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#40 posted Jun 26th 2020, 23:44:01
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#41 posted Jun 26th 2020, 23:53:43
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Start at P40 with 0/0/0 avoid trouble, wrong tires, which will certainly never have SC. Only 100% safe situation. This is if P39 does not decide to use wrong setup. There is a risk of SC.
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Quote ( Rogerio Mandler @ June 26th 2020,23:39:26 ) For me, in my experience, with high risk, more force to the front, there is a 15-25% chance of SC. 4 in a row is very very very very very very very random.
Oooo the broken statistics thing again!
If there is a 1 in 4 chance of something happening (25%) .... then there is a 1 in 256 chance of it happening 4 times in a row.
Damn broken statistics.
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#43 posted Jun 27th 2020, 00:21:04
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He can have more 10 SC in a row and this will be normal for Gpro Logic. If it is not mathematically impossible, it is very likely to happen in gpro.
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#44 posted Jun 27th 2020, 00:46:46
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The odds of having 10 SC in a row at a 25% chance each instance is
1 in 1,048,576
The odds of winning the Mega-Sena jackpot (lottery in Brazil for those that don't know) is
1 in 50,063,860
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#45 posted Jun 27th 2020, 01:31:35
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To extend on that with an analogy:
It's extremely unlikely that you win the lottery, so it's a huge surprise if it does happen. But when someone wins the lottery, that's just normal.
So chances are someone will eventually get 4 start crashes in a row, and probably be so annoyed that they write a forum post about it. That's how probability works.
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#46 posted Jun 27th 2020, 02:26:49 (last edited Jun 27th 2020, 02:28:01 by Luke Frost)
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If the wings were under 80% then it sucks to have 2 randoms in a season, otherwise you had quite a lucky season with no randoms. I had a random this season which is more than you if your wings ended above 80% on those races.
I sent you a message. This used to be my area when I was making my way up. So far my study has stood the test of time and it's one of the rare moments i did something good lol
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#47 posted Jun 27th 2020, 07:56:50
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Quote ( Ilya Shiv @ June 26th 2020,22:06:47 )
What's wrong with your server, guys???
- Season 76 - Race 3 - Start accident - Out of race,
- Season 76 - Race 10 - Start accident - Out of race,
- Season 76 - Race 11 - Start accident - Out of race,
Too much risks..........
Quote ( Ilya Shiv @ June 26th 2020,22:06:47 )
- Season 76 - Race 12 - Stop 1(Lap 1) The front wing was broken and had to be replaced,
- Season 76 - Race 13 - Stop 1(Lap 1) The front wing was broken and had to be replaced.
Do You really think it is intersting to play this game???
Fix the front wing properly... :P
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#48 posted Jun 27th 2020, 08:32:31
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All this talk about randoms in making me sweat. I've never had a random problem happen but I feel like reading all this is gonna give me a random next race!
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#49 posted Jun 27th 2020, 08:58:17
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Definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over again........and expecting different results.....
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- I Have not Answer to your Problem or Unlucky Ilya. ...But that he sad up to me Robin, ...has a Truth.!!!
...I will give now another View of the theme: RANDOM dear Friends it's not so Random we Thing.!!!
...for Example: If we ask from the Game to Have an Start Crash to a Driver with Fist Name "Alfonso" and we have 3 Alfonso then we have 33,33% possibility to Have Crash.!!! ...If we Have ONLY ONE ALFONSO then we have 100% possibility to Crash and we Crash to Every Race.!!!
...I want to say with the EXTREME & FANTASTIC Example that the Possibility from Randoms have to do from the Parameters who Defined on the Range Aria...
...I don't Know if you Understand what i try to Say with my Terrible English... :)
Good Day from Beautiful and NO COVIT 19 Sithonia/Chalkidiki/Greece.!!!
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#51 posted Jun 27th 2020, 20:16:41
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Ioannis, your posts roll through my head.
.... like freestyle poetry, which I have always loved.
.... every time I read one
.... i need to resist the urge to try acid again
... from a fan.
Quote ( Daniel Douglas @ June 27th 2020,00:46:46 )
The odds of having 10 SC in a row at a 25% chance each instance is
1 in 1,048,576
Given that at least ten million cars have started a race in the history of GPRO.
We should have seen more than one case of 10 SC in a row by now
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Quote ( Dex Vici @ June 27th 2020,08:32:31 ) All this talk about randoms in making me sweat. I've never had a random problem happen but I feel like reading all this is gonna give me a random next race!
I remember I had my first random the very next race after I said, for the first time, "hey I never had one of those randoms"
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#53 posted Jun 27th 2020, 23:01:16
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Quote ( Steve Branson @ June 27th 2020,20:16:41 ) We should have seen more than one case of 10 SC in a row by now
I was only using 25% as that was what that individual had given as what he believed the chances were.
In reality they aren't that high for most managers. Some may press risks in situations that result in 25% chance of SC, but most make the realization after a couple SC that they need to change. The rest complain on the forum ;)
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Just to throw my hat in the ring. Rookie, running 0 risk across the board, maintain position at start, FW 40% RW 70%: Lap 1 Front wing is broken etc. So Front wings are apparently very fragile on Lap 1. And no I'm not a new player I started in 2014 but just reset to Rookie after a nightmare couple of Amateur seasons (mainly financial)
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Quote ( Daniel Douglas @ June 27th 2020,00:46:46 ) The odds of having 10 SC in a row at a 25% chance each instance is
1 in 1,048,576
The odds of winning the Mega-Sena jackpot (lottery in Brazil for those that don't know) is
1 in 50,063,860
Theoretically gpro is a gran prix racing management game. Not exactly lottery bet management, but if it makes sense for you that the lottery is statistically similar to gpro, ok.
I try to remember a Formula 1 or Indy or GP2 driver who crashed 4 times in 4 straight starts. I don't remember any. I try to compare with motorsport. Not with lottery. But your logic is different from mine.
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Quote ( Rogerio Mandler @ July 1st 2020,04:20:07 ) I try to remember a Formula 1 or Indy or GP2 driver who crashed 4 times in 4 straight starts. I don't remember any. I try to compare with motorsport. Not with lottery. But your logic is different from mine.
So you are comparing managers who take unnecessary risks to professional drivers with multi million dollar analyst backing?
That's like comparing the majority of people who play the lottery to professional gamblers.
In fact, comparing the majority of people who play the lottery to the majority of managers who play GPRO is a much more relevant comparison.
Most of the managers on this game would make Maldonado look like a conservative in their risks.
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I call it "the Fridays Crash " now, since some races ago I got this present from gpro. Every friday some "random" shit occours when I do the same estrategy/riscks that i do before (multiple seasons). Mikko Heikkinen must to be rigth, it's not random
Quote ( Rogerio Mandler @ June 27th 2020,00:21:04 ) He can have more 10 SC in a row and this will be normal for Gpro Logic. If it is not mathematically impossible, it is very likely to happen in gpro.
Maybe it's not statistically "normal distribution"
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Quote ( Ilya Shiv @ June 26th 2020,22:23:27 ) Quote ( George Togas @ June 26th 2020,22:20:25 )
Imagine someone from behind you with no brakes....
"The front wing was broken" not rear... :-)))
Someone dived up your inside, and you turned into him them; not your fault, but his aggression has caused you to have an accident! ;)
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Quote ( Gideon Rosa @ July 1st 2020,06:02:55 ) I call it "the Fridays Crash " now, since some races ago I got this present from gpro. Every friday some "random" shit occours when I do the same estrategy/riscks that i do before (multiple seasons). Mikko Heikkinen must to be rigth, it's not random
Quote ( Rogerio Mandler @ June 27th 2020,00:21:04 )
He can have more 10 SC in a row and this will be normal for Gpro Logic. If it is not mathematically impossible, it is very likely to happen in gpro.
Maybe it's not statistically "normal distribution"
Every friday (or every other race.... or approximately 50% of the time) some random shit happens .... you continue to use the same strategy and risks, but you are expecting some different result?
Doing the same thing and expecting a different result .... I've heard of that before, whats the word for it again?
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Quote ( Ilya Shiv @ June 26th 2020,22:26:46 ) Quote ( George Togas @ June 26th 2020,22:23:10 )
Doesn't Clear Track Risks apply for the 1st lap?
Do you really think that someone on 90 CT will have the same lap time with someone on 0 CT just because it's the very 1st lap?
of course not, but my risks are not 100? not 90,
i have 60 -70
60-70 risk is very very high. im not surprised u have so many problems.
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