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Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ September 7th 2021,18:21:12 ) I think Hamilton is past his prime and Russell is going to match him very soon. It's going to be interesting for sure. It could be a Hamilton-Alonso 2007 scenario but with the roles reversed.
Yes, there are certainly some similarities. But I see more differences than similarities.
Alonso was 10 years younger than Hamilton is now.
Hamilton was a rookie in F1 in 2007. Russell is not.
Although I like that it is a scenario like the one in 2007, then the champion of 2022 could be Carlos Sainz.
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I agree George will tow the line, but remember he is Mr.Saturday :)
So if he out qualifies Hamilton and can also keep ahead of him in the race in the early races Mercedes will have very little choice.
One of the benefits Mercedes will have next season is that the Mercedes seemed to suit Russell when he stood in for Hamilton.
Where as Red Bull don't seem to have found a 2nd driver who likes the way the Red Bull is built for Verstappen.
Also I wonder how Norris will fair next season as he will have alot of pressure for them to step forward again and also Ricciardo would of had input into the team for the following season
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Quote ( Josh Clark @ September 7th 2021,17:37:30 ) Yeah it will likely be George doing exactly what he's told, being a team player etc. for the first season or two, like everyone else who gets moved to a top team (except Verstappen).
Mercedes should be moving heaven and earth to get Russell in the car this season! He would be a more grateful wingman than Bottas, now that the Finn has no reason to listen to the management.
Help Hamilton win his record breaking championship, bed in to the team and come out next season on "equal" terms. Not at all likely to happen but it would benefit Merc, Hamilton and Russell.
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Well, Mercedes isn't Red Bull. They actually show respect to their drivers.
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Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ September 7th 2021,21:23:47 ) Well, Mercedes isn't Red Bull. They actually show respect to their drivers.
Let's hope Bottas reciprocates and is respectful of the teams requests too.
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And Williams announced Latifi and Albon for 2022
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I feel probably Nyck De Vries will take the second alfa romeo seat.
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So there are only 2 open seats in F1 (unless smebody surprisingly decides to retire or some contract is terminated)
Alfa Romeo
Aston Martin, where Stroll will most surely be confirmed .
And personally I don't think Russell will play second fiddle to Hamilton, blcking him to favour Hamilton will cause him a lot of damage to his career since in a way you get accusotmed to being second, and don't really force yourself.
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Well, Red teams or silver teams (Recently) can play with pit stops in order to force the favorite driver up in the desired position..
Like Pit two laps before end "for safety"
I just hope George gives Hamilton a run for his money.. I think George has what it takes, and hope there are not as many accidents as with Nico
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Zhou will replace Giovinazzi in Alfa, so we have full grid ready:
Alfa Romeo: Bottas, Zhou
AlphaTauri: Gasly, Tsunoda
Alpine: Alonso, Ocon
Aston Martin: Vettel, Stroll
Ferrari: Leclerc, Sainz Jr.
Haas: Mazepin, Schumacher
McLaren: Ricciardo, Norris
Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton, Russell
Red Bull Racing: Verstappen, Perez
Williams: Latifi, Albon
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#41 posted Nov 17th 2021, 01:22:51
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Quote ( Tymoteusz Wojnarowski @ June 22nd 2021,09:25:27 )
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So, the news about 2022 season are starting:
- Ocon signed a 3 year contract with Alpine until 2024, so he is confirmed for 2022 season.
- Photos of a prototype 1:1 scale model of a 2022 F1 car leaked: https://imgur.com/a/KqZxejL
So far the confirmed driver line up is:
AlphaTauri: TBA, TBA
Alpine: Fernando Alonso, Esteban Ocon
Aston Martin: Sebastian Vettel, TBA
Ferrari: Charles Leclerc, Carlos Sainz Jr.
Haas: Nikita Mazepin, Mick Schumacher
McLaren: Daniel Ricciardo, Lando Norris
Red Bull Racing: Max Verstappen, TBA
Williams: Nicholas Latifi, TBA
Alfa Romeo: Guanyu Zhou, Valtteri Bottas
Sauber will appear in 2022, but it is not yet known if it will be an Alfa Romeo Team. I am not sure why Mercedes is not yet confirmed for 2022.
Drivers without a contract after 2021: Hamilton, Bottas, Gasly, Giovinazzi, Räikkönen, Russell, Stroll, Tsunoda
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#42 posted Nov 17th 2021, 01:24:19
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Quote ( Denis Komljenović @ November 17th 2021,01:22:51 ) Quote ( Tymoteusz Wojnarowski @ June 22nd 2021,09:25:27 )
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So, the news about 2022 season are starting:
- Ocon signed a 3 year contract with Alpine until 2024, so he is confirmed for 2022 season.
- Photos of a prototype 1:1 scale model of a 2022 F1 car leaked: https://imgur.com/a/KqZxejL
So far the confirmed driver line up is:
AlphaTauri: TBA, TBA
Alpine: Fernando Alonso, Esteban Ocon
Aston Martin: Sebastian Vettel, TBA
Ferrari: Charles Leclerc, Carlos Sainz Jr.
Haas: Nikita Mazepin, Mick Schumacher
McLaren: Daniel Ricciardo, Lando Norris
Red Bull Racing: Max Verstappen, TBA
Williams: Nicholas Latifi, TBA
Alfa Romeo: Guanyu Zhou, Valtteri Bottas
Sauber will appear in 2022, but it is not yet known if it will be an Alfa Romeo Team. I am not sure why Mercedes is not yet confirmed for 2022.
Drivers without a contract after 2021: Hamilton, Bottas, Gasly, Giovinazzi, Räikkönen, Russell, Stroll, Tsunoda
Alfa Romeo: Guanyu Zhou, Valtteri Bottas
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#43 posted Nov 17th 2021, 01:24:54
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Quote ( Denis Komljenović @ November 17th 2021,01:24:19 ) Quote ( Denis Komljenović @ November 17th 2021,01:22:51 )
Quote ( Tymoteusz Wojnarowski @ June 22nd 2021,09:25:27 )
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So, the news about 2022 season are starting:
- Ocon signed a 3 year contract with Alpine until 2024, so he is confirmed for 2022 season.
- Photos of a prototype 1:1 scale model of a 2022 F1 car leaked: https://imgur.com/a/KqZxejL
So far the confirmed driver line up is:
AlphaTauri: TBA, TBA
Alpine: Fernando Alonso, Esteban Ocon
Aston Martin: Sebastian Vettel, TBA
Ferrari: Charles Leclerc, Carlos Sainz Jr.
Haas: Nikita Mazepin, Mick Schumacher
McLaren: Daniel Ricciardo, Lando Norris
Red Bull Racing: Max Verstappen, TBA
Williams: Nicholas Latifi, TBA
Sauber will appear in 2022, but it is not yet known if it will be an Alfa Romeo Team. I am not sure why Mercedes is not yet confirmed for 2022.
Drivers without a contract after 2021: Hamilton, Bottas, Gasly, Giovinazzi, Räikkönen, Russell, Stroll, Tsunoda
Alfa Romeo: Guanyu Zhou, Valtteri Bottas
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#44 posted Nov 17th 2021, 08:37:43
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#45 posted Nov 17th 2021, 14:33:07
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Quote ( Tymoteusz Wojnarowski @ November 17th 2021,08:37:43 ) What?
Took and old post, didn't read to the end and tried to add the missing drivers in Alfa Romeo (but missed Aston Martin that was yet to confirm Stroll, or. Perez in Red Bull and Albon in Williams).
Needs some practice with quoting ;
😉😁
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now paint it green to have an Aston
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I hope they don't tease it too much, or it might threaten to quit.. 😅
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Quote ( Marcelo Ascencio @ January 2nd 2022,19:32:15 ) now paint it green to have an Aston
Kinda looks green to me ...
Maybe paint it silver to get a Merc?
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#50 posted Jan 17th 2022, 18:26:52
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A few launch dates in now:
Aston Martin February 10
McLaren February 11
Ferrari February 17
Hope the Ferrari has some white on it this year (and no green)
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#51 posted Jan 18th 2022, 16:53:09
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Quote ( Sam Tipple @ January 17th 2022,18:26:52 ) Hope the Ferrari has some white on it this year (and no green)
As much as I love red and white, a Ferrari F1 car should be crimson and black :P
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#52 posted Jan 23rd 2022, 14:45:05
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So it seems the plan is to increase the number of sprint races from 3 to 6 for the upcoming season, but some teams oppose this on the basis that the potential extra TV revenue generated could be used as bargaining by the front running teams to increase the cost cap. I thought 2021 was meant to be a trial run for the concept so why would we still have most races not have a sprint race?
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#53 posted Jan 23rd 2022, 14:56:29
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Also it's been confirmed from what I've read that there will be no more millitary flybys before the start of the races, for environmental reasons and to stop host countries having soft power. It's not that I feel particularly sentimental about the practice, but I have a couple issues behind the reasoning.
If you're subsequently going to be having cars racing at high speed for a couple hours then an aircraft display isn't going to make any difference as far as emissions are concerned. Why not focus on logistical issues which make up the majority of the carbon footprint for any sporting event, rather than focusing on tokenism.
Also, if you're going to allow commercial aircraft then it makes it even more redundant of an initiative. Especially given how connected several airlines are either directly or partially operated by state governments isn't that still a demonstration of soft power? I'm not convinced by the sustainable fuels argument either, that just means some carbon credits will be borrowed or there's the potential for corruption elsewhere in the supply chain. Then there's the fact that the Red Arrows are still permitted to be used. How are they not military aircraft? Don't they have exactly the same purpose?
If F1 cared about sustainability and soft power, they would stop racing in China, Saudi Arabia, etc. But they won't because they care about money and marketing at the expense of everything else.
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#54 posted Jan 25th 2022, 09:06:04
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All actions towards a better climate are good actions. But if they are just switching from military planes to commercial airplanes, then it is not for the climate at all, but only political.
Here is an interesting presentation about F1 sustainability:
https://corp.formula1.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Environ...
And cars don't produce too much of the whole pollution. So if the ban was for all airplanes flybys, I would understand that, but banning only military vehicles is 100% political desicion, not ecological one.
Red Arrows aren't military airplanes, they are not painted in camo, right?
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#55 posted Jan 25th 2022, 23:23:14
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Quote ( Cameron Halsall @ January 23rd 2022,14:45:05 ) I thought 2021 was meant to be a trial run for the concept so why would we still have most races not have a sprint race?
Aside from the more mundane practical reasons against rushing change, they're still afraid the concept is too boring [paraphrasing Ross Brawn]. So they're going slowly.
Quote ( Tymoteusz Wojnarowski @ January 25th 2022,09:06:04 ) Red Arrows aren't military airplanes, they are not painted in camo, right?
No machine guns either.
The Italian aeronautical team got exempted too. So look at is an incentive for venues to create more interesting displays instead of senselessly showing off their country's hardware while minimising the risk of anything exciting happening to.
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#56 posted Jan 26th 2022, 01:59:49
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Quote ( Cameron Halsall @ January 23rd 2022,14:56:29 ) Also it's been confirmed from what I've read that there will be no more millitary flybys before the start of the races, for environmental reasons and to stop host countries having soft power. It's not that I feel particularly sentimental about the practice, but I have a couple issues behind the reasoning.
If you're subsequently going to be having cars racing at high speed for a couple hours then an aircraft display isn't going to make any difference as far as emissions are concerned. Why not focus on logistical issues which make up the majority of the carbon footprint for any sporting event, rather than focusing on tokenism.
Also, if you're going to allow commercial aircraft then it makes it even more redundant of an initiative. Especially given how connected several airlines are either directly or partially operated by state governments isn't that still a demonstration of soft power? I'm not convinced by the sustainable fuels argument either, that just means some carbon credits will be borrowed or there's the potential for corruption elsewhere in the supply chain. Then there's the fact that the Red Arrows are still permitted to be used. How are they not military aircraft? Don't they have exactly the same purpose?
If F1 cared about sustainability and soft power, they would stop racing in China, Saudi Arabia, etc. But they won't because they care about money and marketing at the expense of everything else.
I agree with U, but to be fair... a commercial airplane produce less pollution than the combined amount of pollution produced by the amount of cars needed to move the same number off ppl, for the same distance.
A single seater military jet produce a lot more pollution and move 1 or 2 ppl at a time.
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#57 posted Jan 26th 2022, 10:26:19
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I'm pretty sure F1 are working on the carbon footprint of the logisitical issues, with the aim to tbe carbon neutral it's obviously the main point. That being said it doesn't mean to ignore all the smaller contributions as well. The air displays, to me, do not add much to the weekend and removing them is a free win, I would have stopped them all myself.
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#58 posted Jan 26th 2022, 12:41:46
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Don't think it's actually intended to be an emissions thing? It's just not right that countries can promote their military power at a sporting event, especially when drivers are taking a stance on the political situations in certain host countries such as Saudi Arabia.
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#59 posted Jan 26th 2022, 16:00:49
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"We race as 1"... Formula "1" that is.
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#60 posted Jan 26th 2022, 22:12:00
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A fighter plane with afterburner consumes about 385 gallons per minute of fuel.
Without afterburner they will be at 190 GPM so the simple take off would use about 190 Gallons (they don't use the afterbirner for takeoff but will use almost max power),
190 Gallons are 719 liters roughly 4.8 F1 cars complete fuel load.
Minimum formation is 3 planes, maybe 5 or up to 9, so basically just the take off a medium size formation of 5 is more gas, and hence CO2 than all the F1 race, that is without taking into account that Jet fighters don't like flying low, (they need more gas) and the positioning and hold up path for the fly over of just a couple of seconds. When they land they will also apply a generous amournt of thrust.
A commercial light airplane will use 1/10th or less
A T-38 which is a jet plane normally used for show acrobatics uses 1/6th of the fuel of a current fighter jet but still the full takeoff, holding, show pass, and landing will be much more that all the fuel used by the F1 cars.
That is not considering that F1 cars are notorious for being quite efficient in burning their fuel while an airplane will not only release CO2 but other pollutants such as HC's CO, NOX and other chenicals used in their fuel.
One big advantangae of the Mexico City GP is that you can get to the track easily by Subway or Public Transport (That is what I use, although I could walk too since i'm just 6 kms away) but I can understand how other tracks can face greater issues in traffic, specially if the track is out of the city and many people use their cars to get there).
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