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#61 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:36:42
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Quote ( Nina Green @ December 15th 2012,12:30:52 ) And Janne Vaananen, you say its not a simulator..........
to my knowledge (correct if am wrong) simulator attempts to simulate real life in all areas possible. GPRO doesn't.
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#62 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:38:52
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Oh I will Signe, if it wasnt for start accident I could well be 2 from 2 this season, but im not complaining, I know just why I had a start accident!!! Why not take randoms out too, oh and why we're at it take out car wear, and pitstops... and anythin else someone is likely to complain about!!!
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#63 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:39:20
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I want to borrow huge amounts of money, and then make future GPRO players foot the debts that I rack up. Only fair. Real world simulator and all that.
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#64 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:43:14
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Quote ( Nina Green @ December 15th 2012,12:38:52 ) Why not take randoms out too, oh and why we're at it take out car wear, and pitstops... and anythin else someone is likely to complain about!!!
But adding crashes during race would make it impossible to plan and promotion would come down to luck.
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#65 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:44:47
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Quote ( Kirsty Ridley @ December 15th 2012,12:43:14 ) But adding crashes during race would make it impossible to plan and promotion would come down to luck.
While I'm not saying I am for crashes during races, how would they be any different from a race ending puncture - or any other true random, for example?
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#66 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:45:20
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It simulates a race Janne. No need to get all technical on it, but it simulates a race cos we have no control over what happens!!!! Yes we control our strategy and risks, but the rest is SIMULATED!!! correct me if im wrong!
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#67 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:46:01
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Anyway, that's what happens in real life, you never know when you'll get puncture or a random (Vettel, Abu Dhabi, 2011)
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#68 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:47:51
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Well not so much luck Kirsty, would come down to OT risks and defense risks :) Just throwin it out there. Look at how many unfortunate F1 drivers were in the wrong place at the wrong time this season!!
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#69 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:48:05
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Quote ( Alex Johnson @ December 15th 2012,12:46:01 ) Anyway, that's what happens in real life, you never know when you'll get puncture or a random (Vettel, Abu Dhabi, 2011)
And when he puts his starting risks really low it encourages others to drive into the back of him like at Interlagos.
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Quote ( Nina Green @ December 15th 2012,12:44:47 ) It simulates a race Janne. No need to get all technical on it, but it simulates a race cos we have no control over what happens!!!! Yes we control our strategy and risks, but the rest is SIMULATED!!! correct me if im wrong!
It simulates a race, but the game is based on planning and management.
Quote ( Nina Green @ December 15th 2012,12:47:51 ) Well not so much luck Kirsty, would come down to OT risks and defense risks :)
So you mean having a race ending DM?
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#71 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:49:39
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Quote ( Nina Green @ December 15th 2012,12:45:20 ) It simulates a race Janne. No need to get all technical on it, but it simulates a race cos we have no control over what happens!!!! Yes we control our strategy and risks, but the rest is SIMULATED!!! correct me if im wrong!
You're wrong. :)
Janne is spot on that the game is not a simulation in the terms of what a "simulation game" is expected to be.
(Marius - Juniorism in #70 - that wasn't me that said that)
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#72 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:50:45 (last edited Dec 15th 2012, 12:51:30 by Nina Green)
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So if the race is not simulated, what is it? I did not say it is a "simulation game"
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#73 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:51:36
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Quote ( Marius Ruţa @ December 15th 2012,12:48:24 ) It simulates a race, but the game is based on planning and management
Let me have a bash if i can please,
OK so the track is very hard overtaking,the car in front "blocker" using 30-40 to defend and the car behind using 50-60 to overtake now when this happens i know with get DM's but why isnt there a wing going missing or flat tyre ???
Or am i just missing the point ??? 8-)
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Quote ( Andrew Lawrence @ December 15th 2012,09:55:07 ) Start accidents are annoying, especially when they happen at your driver's favourite track, and your team told you to increase risks. Happened to me before, and wrecked a good chance to score points.
Andrew you never learn that the start accident is 100% luck based even with risks? and FT should be more risks because its more likely to get good score there -.-
and if you have something in your mind be sure to bring it to our knowledge before bashing us.
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#75 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:52:54
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Quote ( Simon Marks @ December 15th 2012,12:51:36 )
OK so the track is very hard overtaking,the car in front "blocker" using 30-40 to defend and the car behind using 50-60 to overtake now when this happens i know with get DM's but why isnt there a wing going missing or flat tyre ???
Because the driver uses the run-off area instead of crashing into the back of the car in front of him. :D
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#76 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:55:44
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Quote ( Marius Ruţa @ December 15th 2012,12:52:54 ) Because the driver uses the run-off area instead of crashing into the back of the car in front of him. :D
But what about when they cut across you, hence front wing clipping rear tyre?
last post on this i can see me having sore forehead "wall etc" 8-))
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#77 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:55:55 (last edited Dec 15th 2012, 12:56:41 by Nina Green)
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Fair call Marius, but what about Monte Carlo????!!!! Or indy oval, DM there and theres only 1 place ul end up!!
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#78 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:56:39
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Quote ( Simon Marks @ December 15th 2012,12:51:36 )
OK so the track is very hard overtaking,the car in front "blocker" using 30-40 to defend and the car behind using 50-60 to overtake now when this happens i know with get DM's but why isnt there a wing going missing or flat tyre ???
The car behind hit pause so they became a ghost car and avoided damage but lost a few seconds putting it back on.
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#79 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:57:47
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Quote ( Janne Kuokkanen @ December 15th 2012,12:52:18 ) start accident is 100% luck based even with risks?
if it is risk based how can it also be 100% luck? Risks increase your chance of an accident. As it is a risk..it won;t happen for sure even if you put everything as high as possible. It is like the risk of smoking on a worn car. You choose to take a chance..sometimes it pays off. It is still choice based most of the time. Exceptions I think are due to drivers around you using very high risks. It is still based around risk though.
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#80 posted Dec 15th 2012, 12:58:08
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Quote ( Andrew Lawrence @ December 15th 2012,09:55:07 ) Start accidents are annoying, especially when they happen at your driver's favourite track, and your team told you to increase risks. Happened to me before, and wrecked a good chance to score points.
Wow, that's a really evil team... I wonder, why do you still stick with them, after seeing what they done to you...?
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#81 posted Dec 15th 2012, 13:01:33
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Quote ( Janne Kuokkanen @ December 15th 2012,12:52:18 ) Andrew you never learn that the start accident is 100% luck based even with risks? and FT should be more risks because its more likely to get good score there -.-
Nonsense.
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Quote ( Dan Dumitras @ December 15th 2012,08:40:41 ) overtake where he can ( i use this for a very long time )
Z lost an Elite title because he used "maintain", I think he was more upset than you are now but I also think that he learned the lesson.
Quote ( Dan Dumitras @ December 15th 2012,08:40:41 ) i know a lot of managers that have 100/100/100 force his way or they had 75/75/75 with force his way and they did not had accident at start.
And don't think too much about what others do ;) Sometimes is better to follow our own way. :)
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#83 posted Dec 15th 2012, 13:45:24
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When we do something wrong, we have two ways to fix it.
Fix the game or fix playing style. :)
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#84 posted Dec 15th 2012, 20:59:28
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Quote ( Paulo Pinto @ December 15th 2012,13:03:48 ) Z lost an Elite title because he used "maintain", I think he was more upset than you are now but I also think that he learned the lesson.
You cant really say that, "if only.........." if he used force way to front theres always the posibility he would have crashed at the start!!! It is wat it is, and its an even playing field for everyone.
Quote ( Timo Sydänmetsä @ December 15th 2012,13:45:24 ) When we do something wrong, we have two ways to fix it.
Fix the game or fix playing style. :)
Agreed, although when we do somethin wrong, its not the games fault, so we cant expect the game to change. Although there is the odd glitch, last season at a pitstop my tires were -6%!!!! Yes, minus 6%!!!
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#85 posted Dec 15th 2012, 21:03:00
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Quote ( Bevan Laracy @ December 15th 2012,20:59:28 ) Although there is the odd glitch, last season at a pitstop my tires were -6%!!!! Yes, minus 6%!!!
Let me guess ... Rain tyres after weather changed to dry.
It's possible, seen it before.
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Quote ( Bevan Laracy @ December 15th 2012,20:59:28 ) Agreed, although when we do somethin wrong, its not the games fault, so we cant expect the game to change. Although there is the odd glitch, last season at a pitstop my tires were -6%!!!! Yes, minus 6%!!!
Were you running on rims in that case? :P
Quote ( Andrei Ciuchi @ December 15th 2012,21:03:00 )
Let me guess ... Rain tyres after weather changed to dry.
It's possible, seen it before.
Didn`t know it was possible.
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#87 posted Dec 15th 2012, 21:08:07
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Quote ( Bevan Laracy @ December 15th 2012,20:59:28 ) Quote ( Paulo Pinto @ December 15th 2012,13:03:48 )Z lost an Elite title because he used "maintain", I think he was more upset than you are now but I also think that he learned the lesson. You cant really say that, "if only.........." if he used force way to front theres always the posibility he would have crashed at the start!!! It is wat it is, and its an even playing field for everyone.
You got something wrong here. Z "lost" the title because he got a start crash with "maintain his position" and would have most likely won it by using "avoid trouble" ;)
Quote ( Andrei Ciuchi @ December 15th 2012,21:03:00 ) Quote ( Bevan Laracy @ December 15th 2012,20:59:28 )Although there is the odd glitch, last season at a pitstop my tires were -6%!!!! Yes, minus 6%!!! Let me guess ... Rain tyres after weather changed to dry.It's possible, seen it before.
Exactly and the reason for this is because the driver and crew only notice that the rain stop when the driver is crossing the finish line. So if the tyres would be still good to do another lap in the rain he'll stay out and suddenly when he crosses the line, the rain stopped and the tyres aren't good enough to do another lap in dry conditions, but he has to drive that lap as he can't go to the pits now.
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#88 posted Dec 15th 2012, 21:09:51
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Quote ( Janne Väänänen @ December 15th 2012,12:11:06 ) um, its not a simulator though, even if start crashes are part of it. This is a number management game themed around f1 styled racing (and at the same time an internet-social expertise about communicating with other managers =/)
If this game does not simulate a race twice a week then what does it do Janne?? Im open to suggestion, but honestly I think ur just being a bit perdantic and argumentive.........
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#89 posted Dec 15th 2012, 21:12:42
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Quote ( Andrei Ciuchi @ December 15th 2012,21:03:00 ) Let me guess ... Rain tyres after weather changed to dry.
It's possible, seen it before.
Dead right, in this situation I would expect a puncture or blowout, but instead it becomes "perfect strategy"lol
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#90 posted Dec 15th 2012, 21:12:44
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Quote ( Marius Ruţa @ December 15th 2012,21:03:07 ) Didn`t know it was possible.
Just like Christoph explained. :)
Quote ( Christoph Seifriedsberger @ December 15th 2012,21:08:07 ) if the tyres would be still good to do another lap in the rain he'll stay out and suddenly when he crosses the line, the rain stopped and the tyres aren't good enough to do another lap in dry conditions, but he has to drive that lap as he can't go to the pits now.
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