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Posts anciens #1380 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 11:10:53 Citer 
Quote ( Jonathan Beagles @ September 19th 2021,10:41:42 )

Safe voting is less beneficial than using your vote on a potential Mafia - Keith seems incredibly unlikely to be Mafia to me. You seem to be playing to fly under the radar and just looking to coast along. I get the importance of avoiding a mis-lynch, but your reasons for this vote seem pretty flimsy to me.


Are you even reading the game? Or are you just saying whatever to try and put pressure on innocent people in this game?

I've clearly stated my reasons here:

Quote ( Chew Kai Wen @ September 18th 2021,22:38:55 )

Look, I don't want people to vote you for inactivity, at this point of the game doing that is not beneficial for town at all. I want people to vote you, because your play has just given me the impression that you are not trying. You might argue that it's because you have no idea what is happening, but in my mind, it just seems like you don't have any opinion because you don't need any.


I've voted Keith because I think his play is a pretence, he is pretending that he doesn't have any opinion over what is going on, and he is doing so because he has no need to form an opinion. As Mafia, he wouldn't care what he thinks of other people since he is going to kill them anyways

His action yesterday baffles me, but I can't find any town reason to be able to support it. His excuse on it being a reaction test is alright I guess, but then to go through all that only to say that the reaction is what he expected......duh???? That he says it is a non-meltdown just makes me even more suspicious.

Not going to lie, this drops you down my scum list. I've not seen anyone making so many excuses over Keith's play before. Possibility of a Jon-Keith buddy pair? And are you are trying to deflect the blame onto me as making a flimsy vote to take pressure off Keith? I've also noticed how you basically just brushed the entire incident yesterday quickly, almost as if you realised he made a mistake and trying to cover it up.

Maybe....thats why you don't want to see a possibility of a experienced-noob scum pair, because maybe you are in one at the moment???


Quote ( Jonathan Beagles @ September 19th 2021,10:41:42 )

As for Keith's non-meltdown (lol at the drama of those posts!) - if he's Mafia, piling on Ric seems a poor ploy. Yes it was risky, but realistically putting Ric at L-2 would only get him to L-1 with the buddy voting, so I don't see that being a likely strategy.


Maybe, but exactly thats why I think he is mafia. There is no risk in this at all. If he was mafia, he knows he will never get to instalynch on someone anyways, because his buddy cannot secure an instalynch unless town makes a dumb play. Thats why he can do such a move without any fear or worry at all.
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Posts anciens #1381 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 11:12:18 Citer 
Quote ( Jonathan Beagles @ September 19th 2021,10:41:42 )

I have considered - and all but rejected - the possibility. You might consider it lazy play, but I would contend that I am trying to theorise and work out who the Mafia are and using the NK tactics to get a read on that.


So you are trying to theorise who Mafia out, but selectively not considering all possibilities available........what???

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Posts anciens #1382 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 11:24:16 Citer 
Quote ( Chew Kai Wen @ September 19th 2021,11:10:53 )

His excuse on it being a reaction test is alright I gues


It wasn't.

There was nothing to test there. My reaction would always be the same.

There is no possible way I would react any other way, regardless of me being town or scum. So it was not a reaction test and he can lie somewhere else

My vote is on Quentin but right now not sure who i want out first. You and Jon are squabbling so much i think at least one of you is town and i would say its you Kai.

Also regarding Keith's vote. He would absolutely do it because he isnt aware of town's pov. Especially when we talked about it so much, im sorry if you are missing that many posts then it is completely your fault and we cant assume you are missing them. For that reason its kinda impossible that Keith didnt know what 2 votes on someone would bring.

He just didnt think about it because he is mafia and he isnt even thinking if it is safe or not because for him there is no worry of mafia insta lynching. For all that he knows he doesnt care who gets lynched unless its not him or his buddy.

Keith - if you are skimming most of the posts, stop. Read all posts. Read the rules. Its just unnacceptable that you havent read the rules by now. I dont care why you didnt read them, just do it. Seriously. Scum or town. You are ruining the game by not reading the rules.

Also to Keith, rhis time a question - What possible reactions were you expecting from me, and what would they tell you. Why did you make that reaction test?
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Posts anciens #1383 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 11:28:56 Citer 
Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ September 19th 2021,10:53:12 )

I don't recall Quentin posting any such reasons, so I am wondering why he's not posting as much in the last 1-2 days...perhaps hoping to keep his head down and see if others vote for each other? I'm not liking that at all, as it doesn't benefit town to have players lurking/hiding away.


That would be silly. He has so much heat around him the only way of removing it envolves posting.
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Posts anciens #1384 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 12:13:57 Citer 

Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ September 19th 2021,00:13:45 )

Do i need to bring the bullshit video in here again?


Bring out what you like.....


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Quote ( Keith Partridge @ September 19th 2021,00:03:04 )

Quentin was the other person who nominated him.... If Quentin is the other Mafia he could have UNVOTED ( if he comes online that is!!)...

I am over 50% certain Ric is scum..... but as you said earlier if Quentin is Modkilled it will be irrelevant

Ok can we rewind how the heck does my reaction make me scum lol


Because is was so, so far OTT

But to Jon, Jason Quentin and Kai....

Vote me off if you are like.. You are wrong and have allowed Ric and A.N. Other to fool you....

But I am now fully understanding how Mike felt
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Posts anciens #1385 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 12:17:18 Citer 
Official Vote Count 3.4

Ricardo Antunes (1) - Jonathan
Jonathan Beagles (0)
Quentin Rieg (1) - Ricardo
Jason Mathias (0)
Keith Partridge (1) - Chew
Chew Kai Wen (0)

Not voting (3) - Quentin, Jason, Keith

With 6 players alive, it will require 4 votes to achieve a lynch decision.
Day 3 Lynch deadline is Monday, 20th of September, 20:00:00 CET.

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Posts anciens #1386 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 12:20:29 Citer 
Quote ( Keith Partridge @ September 19th 2021,12:13:57 )

Because is was so, so far OTT


?????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Posts anciens #1387 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 13:57:50 Citer 
I read all guys, and Keith nearly costs us the game... That shows us that mafia is between Jason, Jon and Kai.
The way Ric reacted when Keith has voted against him can't be a fake reaction. From now and no matter what everyone says and which suspects behaviours I found before, I will trust Keith and Ric.

I will answer to every people who asked me something during the afternoon
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Posts anciens #1388 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 14:04:46 Citer 
Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ September 19th 2021,13:57:50 )

I read all guys, and Keith nearly costs us the game... That shows us that mafia is between Jason, Jon and Kai.
The way Ric reacted when Keith has voted against him can't be a fake reaction. From now and no matter what everyone says and which suspects behaviours I found before, I will trust Keith and Ric.

I will answer to every people who asked me something during the afternoon


Remind me why does that make Keith town?
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Posts anciens #1389 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 14:07:47 Citer 
Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ September 19th 2021,13:57:50 )

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The way Ric reacted when Keith has voted against him can't be a fake reaction.


Oh yes it can.....
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Posts anciens #1390 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 14:12:34 Citer 
It isnt a fake reaction, it just doesnt determine my role in any way because i would react that way town or scum

Now Keith, off to you... looking foward to see your explanations!
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Posts anciens #1391 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 14:14:38 Citer 
Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ September 19th 2021,13:57:50 )

I read all guys, and Keith nearly costs us the game... That shows us that mafia is between Jason, Jon and Kai.


So essentially.....your logic is: Keith nearly cost town the game, so that means he must be good/town?


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Posts anciens #1392 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:14:56 Citer 
Quote ( Chew Kai Wen @ September 18th 2021,22:43:04 )

Quote ( Jason Mathias @ September 18th 2021,21:43:46 )

Also 1 thing to note is that Keith hasn't got a warning for less activity, maybe there is nothing in this but if I was Mafia I would make sure not to get modkilled in this way.

So you think Keith had posted deliberately in such a manner that meant he was above the minimum level of posts for a modkill?

Saying that, Quentin has been warned for inactivity for 2nd time this game and at risk of modkill. So it might be nothing at the end of it all.




Kai just out of interest where did you get that Quentin had a second warning???
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Posts anciens #1393 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:19:47 Citer 
Quote ( Keith Partridge @ September 19th 2021,15:14:56 )

Kai just out of interest where did you get that Quentin had a second warning???


Look back to Night 2, when they made this post:

Quote ( Joachim Vaes @ September 15th 2021,11:44:44 )

Final warning for Quentin about his activity, one more thing and you'll be modkilled and we would very much like to avoid that for the integrity of the game.

Warnings also go to Jonathan and Jason about posting requirements.


And there was one more warning from D1, can't remember exactly where now but I am pretty sure he got 1 there as well
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Posts anciens #1394 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:28:02 Citer 
Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ September 19th 2021,14:04:46 )

Remind me why does that make Keith town?


He told us Mike was town
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Posts anciens #1395 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:29:10 Citer 
Quote ( Chew Kai Wen @ September 19th 2021,14:14:38 )

So essentially.....your logic is: Keith nearly cost town the game, so that means he must be good/town?


Why would he retire his vote then ? He was scared by Ricardo shouting on him
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Posts anciens #1396 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:29:38 Citer 
Of course all of this could be wrong and I know it but I had to make a choice and I made it
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Posts anciens #1397 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:31:26 Citer 
Quote ( Chew Kai Wen @ September 18th 2021,15:46:56 )

Also, what do you mean by Jason-Jon being the good pair? If you feel they are good, then whats the meaning of post #1268? What changed then?


Being the good pair = being the scum pair sorry I wasn't clear
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Posts anciens #1398 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:34:31 Citer 
Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ September 19th 2021,15:31:26 )

He told us Mike was town


And?
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Posts anciens #1399 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:34:50 Citer 
Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ September 19th 2021,15:29:10 )

Why would he retire his vote then ? He was scared by Ricardo shouting on him


If he didnt then he would just be confirmed scum.
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Posts anciens #1400 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:35:02 Citer 
Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ September 19th 2021,15:29:38 )

Of course all of this could be wrong and I know it but I had to make a choice and I made it


Its all wrong.
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Posts anciens #1401 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:37:25 Citer 
Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ September 19th 2021,15:29:38 )

Why would he retire his vote then ? He was scared by Ricardo shouting on him


Look, if he kept his vote on Ric, I’m certain he would have gotten instalynched at this point and this day would have ended.

Town or mafia, its one thing to put the vote on anyone (not just Ric) to be at L-2 knowing there are 2 scums around, its even scummier to keep it on the person for a prolonged time
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Posts anciens #1402 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:39:46 Citer 
Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ September 19th 2021,15:34:31 )


And?


And it would have been much easier to say Mike is mafia like others did. And if it was a strategy, his scummate would have done the same I guess
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Posts anciens #1403 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:40:30 Citer 
Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ September 19th 2021,15:34:50 )


If he didnt then he would just be confirmed scum.


Then why did he even vote against you ?
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Posts anciens #1404 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:41:26 Citer 
Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ September 19th 2021,15:35:02 )


Its all wrong.


Both my choices are wrong when I choose to believe in Keith and Ric ??
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Posts anciens #1405 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:42:03 Citer 
Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ September 19th 2021,15:40:30 )

And it would have been much easier to say Mike is mafia like others did. And if it was a strategy, his scummate would have done the same I guess


Or he knew that as scum and did it anyways to get town credit? Except its not even because he didnt give 1 single good reason for his town "read"?
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Posts anciens #1406 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:42:35 Citer 
Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ September 19th 2021,15:41:26 )

Both my choices are wrong when I choose to believe in Keith and Ric ??


Your reasons are wrong. Again.
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Posts anciens #1407 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:43:01 Citer 
Quote ( Chew Kai Wen @ September 19th 2021,15:37:25 )

Look, if he kept his vote on Ric, I’m certain he would have gotten instalynched at this point and this day would have ended.

Town or mafia, its one thing to put the vote on anyone (not just Ric) to be at L-2 knowing there are 2 scums around, its even scummier to keep it on the person for a prolonged time


Okay okay I know I could be wrong but what do you think ? It's much easier to criticise others' choices but what are yours ? Who do you want to trust ?
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Posts anciens #1408 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:43:17 Citer 
Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ September 19th 2021,15:42:35 )

Then why did he even vote against you ?


Yes Quentin, why would he vote me as Town? :D
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Posts anciens #1409 Posté (le) 19 Septembre 2021, 15:45:21 Citer 
Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ September 19th 2021,15:42:03 )

Or he knew that as scum and did it anyways to get town credit?


It would be a 1000IQ move from someone who just discovered the game, no ? As a noob (yeah noob card again, you will shout), I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have taken this risk.
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