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Sujet: Bad Q1 stint but good Q2 stint |
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#1 Posté (le) 4 Janvier 2022, 13:42:42
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Excuse my ignorance but how would you explain a constant bad Q1 from my driver but a really good Q2, compare to other drivers? (I use same risks on both Qs)
I mean, it's not a coincidence and it happens almost in all my Q sessions lately. Or maybe it's just happened?
What do you think ?
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#2 Posté (le) 4 Janvier 2022, 13:59:38
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Think about all the different things you can set between sessions.
In Q1 you can set:
- Setup
- Tyre
- Risk
In Q2 you can set:
- Setup
- Tyre
- Risk
- Fuel
So what changed from Q1 to Q2 so that your performance improved significantly? And maybe you can draw conclusions based on how the race will go for your opponents as well as yours based on that!
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#3 Posté (le) 4 Janvier 2022, 14:10:13
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Quote ( Vasilis Karapialis @ January 4th 2022,13:42:42 ) Excuse my ignorance but how would you explain a constant bad Q1 from my driver but a really good Q2, compare to other drivers? (I use same risks on both Qs)
I mean, it's not a coincidence and it happens almost in all my Q sessions lately. Or maybe it's just happened?
What do you think ?
I think that you usually start on Extra Softs. Am I right? :-)
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#4 Posté (le) 4 Janvier 2022, 14:18:50
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Quote ( Vasilis Karapialis @ January 4th 2022,13:42:42 ) What do you think ?
I think you're using less fuel compared to other drivers in Q2
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#5 Posté (le) 4 Janvier 2022, 14:19:52
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Quote ( Vasilis Karapialis @ January 4th 2022,13:42:42 )
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Excuse my ignorance but how would you explain a constant bad Q1 from my driver but a really good Q2, compare to other drivers? (I use same risks on both Qs)
I mean, it's not a coincidence and it happens almost in all my Q sessions lately. Or maybe it's just happened?
What do you think ? Not much I can say, it happens the other way round for me.
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#6 Posté (le) 4 Janvier 2022, 14:22:29
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Looking at your quali times (both q1 and q2) and i have no idea how you took the conclusion that your Q1 is usually bad while your Q2 is good. They seem alike in pretty much all races especially comparing to the rest of the grid (maybe an exception here or there). Infact, you have been starting ahead most races and seems to be doing just fine besides overspending a huge amount of money that is going to end up harming your account very very soon. But that's a different subject... all in all, quali doesn't seem to be the problem, be it Q1 or Q2.
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#7 Posté (le) 4 Janvier 2022, 14:37:53
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The only consistent difference between Q1 and Q2 is the fuel you're lugging around. If you have less fuel in the tank than your opponents, you're obvioiusly going to do better than them in Q2, compared to Q1, where everyone has the same fuel (i.e. just enough to get round the track).
Less fuel might hurt you in the race, though, since you have to pit earlier.
Don't worry about your qualifying, though. You have bigger problems, namely your money. You brought a Ferrari to a Kart race, that's going to eat into your finances really quickly!
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#8 Posté (le) 4 Janvier 2022, 14:46:14
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I know about my finances. I was just doing a test this season on all aspects. So i wont promote this year.
But what i mean about the differences on Q times is that even though i would expect the Q2 to be worse compare to others due to fuel weight i am mostly qualifying on a higher position compare to Q1.
But then again as Frederick mentioned above maybe i am using less fuel or maybe also the others use softer tyres in Q1 and maybe sometimes it's a combination.
Maybe i'm overreacting lol.
Anyway, Thanks for the feedback everyone.
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#9 Posté (le) 4 Janvier 2022, 15:33:11
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ciao a tutti, come si calcola l'usura delle gomme?
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#10 Posté (le) 4 Janvier 2022, 15:36:12
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Hi Giuseppe! The language of the general forum is English. If you want to communicate with your fellow manager in Italian, please use this topic: /forum/ViewTopic.asp?TopicId=1561
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#11 Posté (le) 5 Janvier 2022, 11:40:46 (dernière édition (le) 5 Janvier 2022, 11:41:07 par Jens Jäschke)
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Quote ( Vasilis Karapialis @ January 4th 2022,14:46:14 )
even though i would expect the Q2 to be worse compare to others due to fuel weight
If everyone adds the same fuel, everyone slows down by (roughly) the same amount. Check your times, your lap time in Q2 almost certainly went up compared to your Q1 time. Then check the times of your opponents, they also went up, since your opponents are also adding fuel to their cars. How much they went up might give you a hint on how much fuel they're carrying.
Quote ( Vasilis Karapialis @ January 4th 2022,14:46:14 )
maybe also the others use softer tyres in Q1 and maybe sometimes it's a combination.
You can't use different tyre compounds in Q1 and Q2, the only thing you can do is change to/from rain tyres.
Quote ( Vasilis Karapialis @ January 4th 2022,14:46:14 ) Maybe i'm overreacting lol.
It's always a good idea to question things that act differently than you expected, that's usually a good indicator that you were missing something before.
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#12 Posté (le) 9 Janvier 2022, 17:09:27
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Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ January 4th 2022,13:59:38 ) Think about all the different things you can set between sessions.
In Q1 you can set:
- Setup
- Tyre
- Risk
In Q2 you can set:
- Setup
- Tyre
- Risk
- Fuel
So what changed from Q1 to Q2 so that your performance improved significantly? And maybe you can draw conclusions based on how the race will go for your opponents as well as yours based on that!
I thought you can't change your dry tyre compound after Q1?
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#13 Posté (le) 9 Janvier 2022, 17:12:03
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Quote ( Sy Razi @ January 9th 2022,17:09:27 ) I thought you can't change your dry tyre compound after Q1?
Yep, exactly; since his tyre is exactly the same, it is probably not the reason why he got a bad Q1 lap and a good Q2 lap!
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