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Richard Harris
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Old post #1 posted Jun 16th 2009, 10:28:30 Quote 
Personally I thing we could have a few more spots within teams lets say 5 more for non supporter teams and 10 for supporter teams?
What do you think? I Currently have a full team but still I have at least one person who wants to apply but is unable due to lack of free spots!

I also thing that we should have a "Full" team section which lists all full teams but allows others to apply and when/if a spot dose come available there will probably be some one to fill it.

One more thing what about having a team cap of lets say 500 Teams (at least 300)

This is a Suggestion/request/idea all in one and I personally think this would improve the game.

Please let me know what you think!
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Old post #2 posted Jun 16th 2009, 10:31:07 Quote 
10 is good, no need to expand.
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Old post #3 posted Jun 16th 2009, 10:32:59 Quote 
Quote ( Thomas Lindgren @ June 16th 2009,10:31:07 )

10 is good, no need to expand.
Yup, that is enough...
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Old post #4 posted Jun 16th 2009, 10:34:13 Quote 
I think 10 is definitely enough! As it balances out the strategies, doesn't make the team so 'crammed' into one spot etc. and anyway, what are second teams for? :D

Quote ( Richard Harris @ June 16th 2009,10:28:30 )

Currently have a full team but still I have at least one person who wants to apply but is unable due to lack of free spots!


You will always get people wanting to apply even if you had 100 spots taken.. :P

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Old post #5 posted Jun 16th 2009, 10:38:26 Quote 
No reason why you can't start multiple teams as an alliance?

The Brazilian teams did it, OTF did it, Phantom are still doing it, amongst others...
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Old post #6 posted Jun 16th 2009, 10:41:21 Quote 
Thanks at least I now know what some of you think and yes 10 is enough but I just thought I'd voice my opinion and see the out come!

But no ones said any thind about the the other two yet! ;)
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Old post #7 posted Jun 16th 2009, 10:43:38 Quote 
yes, I think its a good idea because lots of teams are full and there are many people interested in enter them (including me lol).
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Old post #8 posted Jun 16th 2009, 10:45:44 Quote 
Quote ( Richard Harris @ June 16th 2009,10:41:21 )

But no ones said any thind about the the other two yet! ;)


how do you are thinking about Team poins....an average??
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Old post #9 posted Jun 16th 2009, 11:09:21 Quote 
Quote ( Nuno Vicente @ June 16th 2009,10:45:44 )

how do you are thinking about Team poins....an average??


thats simple, use your math skills and you will get your answer
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Old post #10 posted Jun 16th 2009, 11:26:11 Quote 
Quote ( Filipe Silva @ June 16th 2009,11:09:21 )

thats simple, use your math skills and you will get your answer


I know how i would do it....only wont to know if richard had think about it!
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Old post #11 posted Jun 16th 2009, 11:26:53 Quote 
Quote ( Nuno Vicente @ June 16th 2009,11:26:11 )

I know how i would do it....only wont to know if richard had think about it!


ok nuno
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Old post #12 posted Jun 16th 2009, 11:47:25 Quote 
Quote ( Nuno Vicente @ June 16th 2009,10:45:44 )

how do you are thinking about Team poins....an average??

I'm here with me mate Richard and he says that it the taking part that counts!
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Old post #13 posted Jun 16th 2009, 11:56:56 Quote 
Quote ( Michael Majhu @ June 16th 2009,11:47:25 )

I'm here with me mate Richard and he says that it the taking part that counts!


Agree with that 100%.

i t would be a good option if we just could send a PM for every teams we like at the same time.

Now i can only send Team pm to the Special one...but i would like to send as well to the special one too.
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Old post #14 posted Jun 16th 2009, 12:06:52 (last edited Jun 16th 2009, 12:07:23 by Adam Wierzba) Quote 
Quote ( Richard Harris @ June 16th 2009,10:28:30 )

One more thing what about having a team cap of lets say 500 Teams (at least 300)


I have different idea. Maybe team creating should be allowed only in PRO and higher? Ama was good when there was 24 groups. Now, with a lot of additonal promotions even a Rookie with 5-6 races under his belt can create a team. And I won't hurt anybody if I tell that a lot of this teams aren't good (lack of team spirit, conversations, ideas etc.).

Thoughts?
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Old post #15 posted Jun 16th 2009, 12:09:50 Quote 
Quote ( Adam Wierzba @ June 16th 2009,12:06:52 )

Maybe team creating should be allowed only in PRO and higher?


Too exclusive.

The pyramid structure is complete, so there won't be total newbies promoting to amateur anymore.
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Old post #16 posted Jun 16th 2009, 12:11:37 Quote 
Quote ( Adam Wierzba @ June 16th 2009,12:06:52 )

I have different idea. Maybe team creating should be allowed only in PRO and higher? Ama was good when there was 24 groups. Now, with a lot of additonal promotions even a Rookie with 5-6 races under his belt can create a team. And I won't hurt anybody if I tell that a lot of this teams aren't good (lack of team spirit, conversations, ideas etc.).

Thoughts?


I think that it makes all the sense.

P.S. - Sorry amateurs
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Old post #17 posted Jun 16th 2009, 12:14:50 Quote 
Quote ( Toni Metsänkylä @ June 16th 2009,12:09:50 )

Too exclusive.


I will hijack someones idea:

good team > no team > bad team...

I was in a bad team when I've been a rookie here and it gave me nothing. Nothing at all... And I know a lot of people here complaining about their teams...
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Old post #18 posted Jun 16th 2009, 12:21:14 (last edited Jun 16th 2009, 12:22:01 by Gordon Ashford) Quote 
Quote ( Adam Wierzba @ June 16th 2009,12:06:52 )

Maybe team creating should be allowed only in PRO and higher?


I would think more that Amateur level, but a minimum number of races was also needed.

I agree that too many new teams get created, specially at this time of the season, when newly promoted Amateurs all decide they want to lead their own team.

But to stop Amateurs from creating teams at all, well, take me as an example, should I not be allowed to start a new team now I am in Amateur (yes, you could argue that in Rokie also, but I agree that Rokies shouldnt start teams as they can just do so and then lose the starting up cost in the reset).

Maybe 34 races, thats 2 full seasons, or even just say race a full season in Amateur (or above) before creating a team.

And I will agree with

Quote ( Adam Wierzba @ June 16th 2009,12:14:50 )


good team > no team > bad team...


although I have been very lucky, that the 3 teams I have been in have all been in the good category :)
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Old post #19 posted Jun 16th 2009, 12:22:07 Quote 
No! Not at all!
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Old post #20 posted Jun 16th 2009, 12:23:36 (last edited Jun 16th 2009, 12:24:51 by Adam Wierzba) Quote 
Quote ( Remus Raita @ June 16th 2009,12:22:07 )

No! Not at all!


No! Not at all... what?

Quote ( Gordon Ashford @ June 16th 2009,12:21:14 )

Maybe 34 races, thats 2 full seasons, or even just say race a full season in Amateur (or above) before creating a team.


It would be resonable IMO. So, will you give a hint to Stef or Vlad? :)
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Old post #21 posted Jun 16th 2009, 12:24:06 Quote 
Quote ( Adam Wierzba @ June 16th 2009,12:14:50 )

I will hijack someones idea:

good team > no team > bad team...


Sounds like wise words. :)
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Old post #22 posted Jun 16th 2009, 12:26:20 Quote 
Quote ( Iain Bartholomew @ June 16th 2009,12:24:06 )

Quote ( Adam Wierzba @ June 16th 2009,12:14:50 )

I will hijack someones idea:

good team > no team > bad team...



Sounds like wise words. :)


Sounds like wise words from elderly :)
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Old post #23 posted Jun 16th 2009, 12:28:41 Quote 
The cheek of it!
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Old post #24 posted Jun 16th 2009, 12:37:01 Quote 
Quote ( Chris Williams @ June 16th 2009,10:38:26 )

No reason why you can't start multiple teams as an alliance?

The Brazilian teams did it, OTF did it, Phantom are still doing it, amongst others...


the french based teams are like that too, we have FRA. I, FRA. II, etc
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Old post #25 posted Jun 16th 2009, 15:03:00 Quote 
Quote ( Gordon Ashford @ June 16th 2009,12:21:14 )

I would think more that Amateur level, but a minimum number of races was also needed.

I agree that too many new teams get created, specially at this time of the season, when newly promoted Amateurs all decide they want to lead their own team.


That is just as discriminating as any other restriction. I had 5 races under my belt when I created my team. It was created to group ambitious newcomers, exactly because other teams were too silent. And from day one we were a well organised team that shared data, set-ups, strategies, etc.

Why not add age, or IQ, or EQ as a requirement while we're at it? [/sarcasm]
You'll always have badly managed teams, no matter who's allowed to create them.
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Old post #26 posted Jun 16th 2009, 15:05:50 Quote 
Its good as it is now. Too big teams will kill team spirit, will apear sub-teams within teams.. not the way it should be.. who wants to ally with more than 10, they can create multiple teams. Time shown that single team is enough to collect data, if you cannot do that with single team, with multiple it gets even harder, management problems, trust issues, betrays ect..
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Old post #27 posted Jun 16th 2009, 15:09:17 Quote 
if we add more teamspots , than we have gigantic teams and its not faire against the smaller teams
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Old post #28 posted Jun 16th 2009, 15:15:05 Quote 
Quote ( Vincent Reybrouck @ June 16th 2009,15:09:17 )

if we add more teamspots , than we have gigantic teams and its not faire against the smaller teams


but there are lots of players without teams and if we increased the number of spots they would have the oportunity to show their leaders that they deserve the spot if he doesnt deserve it He'll get kicked by the leader and looses 3m
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Old post #29 posted Jun 16th 2009, 15:15:54 Quote 
I find it difficult as it is to fill 10 spots with good committed managers. Quantity does not equal quality.
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Old post #30 posted Jun 16th 2009, 15:18:08 Quote 
I agree with Adam..i was in bad team too in rookie and ama. And i can confirm that being in team gave to me NOTHING. So i think that people should reach pro first to create the team.

As about main question, i would like to say big and clear NO. More over i think that 10 is too much :)
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