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#1 posted Aug 8th 2006, 08:44:16
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Because of every part of our car costs some (or a lot of) money, tyres that we use shouldn't be for free i think. In my opinion, tyres should cost as much as 50k per kit.
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#2 posted Aug 8th 2006, 09:06:04
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This is a very good suggestion, as it would force people to think twice about always choosing the softest tyre around.
It would create different tactics, because some people would want to spare money by using one set of hards and others would go for the speed with the softs, but would have to pay more for using so many sets in a race.
Thumbs up for this one!
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#3 posted Aug 8th 2006, 10:07:06
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Its an interesting suggestion and I will put it on the list to discuss with Vlad when he is back from holiday - but I dont think that just 50k will be enuff to make change your strategy in my opinion. But one thing would not happen anymore: ppl who try to pit every lap :D
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#4 posted Aug 8th 2006, 10:14:16
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I think maybe such change would need option to take new/old tyres in every pit to feel good. I.e. complete tyre management. Maybe not.
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#5 posted Aug 8th 2006, 10:15:57
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I would say, impossible is nothing. Maybe something like 'Dont change tires if they are over xx%'. But that would be sure an option for further stages of the game.
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#6 posted Aug 8th 2006, 10:23:28
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I'd say this is nonsence :)
What next? Paying for 1 liter of fuel 50K so people wouldnt test also ?:) and so on ? :)
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#7 posted Aug 8th 2006, 10:27:23
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It would be a good idea to, in my opinion, to have some sort of expenses related to tyres.
Hell, I wouldn't even mind paying for fuel, although that would probably be taking the expenses thing too far :)
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#8 posted Aug 8th 2006, 10:30:08
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Quote ( Justas Patkauskas @ August 8th 2006,10:27:23 )
Hell, I wouldn't even mind paying for fuel, although that would probably be taking the expenses thing too far :)
Yes, especially if we have a real link to the current price for one barrel oil :)
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#9 posted Aug 8th 2006, 10:32:02
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Quote ( Stefan Voggenreither @ August 8th 2006,10:30:08 )
Yes, especially if we have a real link to the current price for one barrel oil :)
Hah!
In that case, there could be an option for managers to invest money in a "green" F1 car running on H20, ala Mosley :)
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Quote ( Justas Patkauskas @ August 8th 2006,10:27:23 )
It would be a good idea to, in my opinion, to have some sort of expenses related to tyres.
Hell, I wouldn't even mind paying for fuel, although that would probably be taking the expenses thing too far :)
And then travel costs to every GP and testing venue. And some whores for your driver and the crew. And then let us produce our merchandise and sell it to our fans for an extra buck. And, of course, increase our winnings, because we won't have enough money to pay for all this stuff.
[EDIT]Now that I think of it, producing and selling merchandise is not such a bad idea after all. I even came up with a plausible system for it.[/EDIT]
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already rookies are struggling with money issues dont drop another one on them. looks for once that me Petras and Paulius are all agreeing on something :). this is a rubbish idea, put it in the bin where it belongs.
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If it would be implemented, it should be compensated by income in some way.
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How about new overalls for the driver after a scary moments due to driver errors (skid marks!)
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haha nice Michael I like it.
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Quote ( Håkan Ferm @ August 8th 2006,13:08:11 )
looks for once that me Petras and Paulius are all agreeing on something :)
We also agreed that Alonso deserved the penalty he got in Hungary ;) We're not that different, you know :)
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Lets also agree that my memory serves me badly :)
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Quote ( Petras Ražanskas @ August 8th 2006,13:49:48 )
Quote ( Håkan Ferm @ August 8th 2006,13:08:11 )
looks for once that me Petras and Paulius are all agreeing on something :)
We also agreed that Alonso deserved the penalty he got in Hungary ;) We're not that different, you know :)
Yeap yeap weird things happen :D Petras saw theirs no chances to overtake me in the standings so he started to agree with me on everything and stopped boasting :) Well done petras :)
LOL hope this wont be another off topic :) Thought this thread is uselless anywayz
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Quote ( Stefan Voggenreither @ August 8th 2006,10:07:06 )
But one thing would not happen anymore: ppl who try to pit every lap :D
But whatabout those newbie mistakes Stefan?, it happens all the times that someone new at this in first race makes mistakes with the fuel and therefore does some 8 or perhaps more pitstops, So already penalised moneywise by a bad placemnet in race will now be even more penalised by having to pay a lot for tyres used. if there should be such a rule than i will suggest the following for more complexability and since not everybody think the idea was bad here comes something that will take it even further: after pitstops done we know how much is left of the tyre in % that % of the tyre cost should then be refunded so that the ones making such newbie mistake does not get penalised that much, does this seem to be rubbish or too severe to implicate? if so scrap the first idea too! :)
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Thats a gem of a suggestion Johan.If it could be implemented then great.
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#20 posted Nov 24th 2018, 15:33:06
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Simple suggestion.
Discount on tyre cost if you sign a contract in advance of the next season.
All other managers can see if you have done this and what supplier you've gone for.
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#21 posted Nov 24th 2018, 17:50:08
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Quote ( Lee Ifans @ November 24th 2018,15:33:06 ) Discount on tyre cost if you sign a contract in advance of the next season.
All other managers can see if you have done this and what supplier you've gone for.
What happens if you accidentally promote or relegate? would this mean you are stuck with a bad tyre for all of next season?
What about those promoting from ama, are they ineligible for this discount?
Excellent thread necro by the way :P
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I like it but would change it to deep discounts if you agree to a package of limited race sets per compound. Contract signed pre-season as currently set up.
The number of races per set could be a fixed offer from the manufacturer.
For example:
Yoko - 3 races with Hard compound, 6 races with Medium, 5 races with Soft and 3 races with X-Soft compound = $750,000 per race.
As if Yoko ended the season with a surplus of Mediums and Softs.
Each manufacturer's offer would vary season to season.
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#23 posted Nov 24th 2018, 19:31:50
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Another benefit, besides just adding an interesting variable, is that this could help alleviate the cost disparity between Amateur and Pro as far as operating budgets go.
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#24 posted Nov 24th 2018, 19:40:02
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Your discount is far too big John.
I mean 50%, no way.
Don't mind the concept but 10% discount maximum would be fine.
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Just an example.
The discount would vary based on availability. Maybe it would be as high as 50% if there were 0 sets of medium available, and 4 sets of hard tyres. One of the points I made was that the offers would vary from season to season and manufacturer to manufacturer. The offers could be generated based on actual usage data.
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Quote ( John Henderson @ November 24th 2018,19:31:50 ) Another benefit, besides just adding an interesting variable, is that this could help alleviate the cost disparity between Amateur and Pro as far as operating budgets go.
IF there is deemed to be an issue there, an easier solution (than #22) already is available.
Make Avonn's the Amateur default (or optional) tyre with adjusted/reduced price and adjusted tyre attributes to make it similar, but not the same as Pipirelli
This would have the added benefit of giving Amateurs a "first touch" on tyre manufacturers, in other words something to compare to Pipi
but I have to reiterate IF there is deemed to be an issue in operating budgets
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