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Jeroen Michiel
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Old post #1 posted Nov 7th 2006, 13:53:43 Quote 
Last race I dropped out in Lap 51 (according to the Analysis), but the summary says Lap 49.
Most probably because I was 2 laps down on the leader at that time.
No my question: how much laps of car wear has my car sustained? Or in other words, the sustained car wear was for how many laps?

I know this same sort of question was asked before, but only for those who finished the race x laps behind the leader, I think.
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Old post #2 posted Nov 7th 2006, 14:17:23 Quote 
51 laps
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Old post #3 posted Nov 7th 2006, 14:18:28 Quote 
thx!
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Old post #4 posted Nov 7th 2006, 14:20:55 Quote 
Right now the wear you've got is from 51 laps.

The crew is tampering with idea of post-process of race results to prevent this, but so far there was no decision about it AFAIK and it will very likely stay as it is at least till next season or maybe "forever".

It's the same case as finishing behind leader, you still have 80 of 80 laps in race analysis, but in lap 78 you were already in finish, and those last 2 laps are driven due to the nature of current race logic, it's quite difficult to get rid of them without bringing some new inconsistency into the game.
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Old post #5 posted Jun 29th 2009, 12:44:27 Quote 
Same situation and question about fuel adoption.
In Monza race, I have finished the race with 51 laps done (see RAce Summary) but in the RAce Analysis I have also my Laps Time for the laps #52 and #53!!!!!
With also a Pit stops in Lap #52 :-(

So I have not a clear interpretation of what happened.
What Can I assume to be "real", RAce Summary or RAce Analysis?
If I want to calculate my fuel average for the race, do I need to consider 51 laps or 53 laps done?
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Old post #6 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 13:35:22 Quote 
Quote ( Fabrizio Rimoldi @ June 29th 2009,12:44:27 )

So I have not a clear interpretation of what happened.
What Can I assume to be "real", RAce Summary or RAce Analysis?
If I want to calculate my fuel average for the race, do I need to consider 51 laps or 53 laps done?


Good question, I would like to know too :)
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Old post #7 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 13:46:01 Quote 
Consider the Race Summary for the real number of laps.
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Old post #8 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 13:48:59 Quote 
Quote ( Andrei Ciuchi @ July 2nd 2009,13:46:01 )

Consider the Race Summary for the real number of laps.

ALWAYS trust the race analysis.
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Old post #9 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 13:55:23 Quote 
last race my driver was ill in his helmet for the 2nd time this season, quite silly


Technical problems
Lap 57
Your driver was not feeling well in his helmet and it had to be changed with a new one
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Old post #10 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 13:56:45 (last edited Jul 2nd 2009, 13:58:23 by Jussi Kekkonen) Quote 
As far as I'm aware, race summary is to be considered only when counting if you completed 90% of the race or not. Even if you were 10 laps behind the leader in a 70 lap race you still needed fuel and tyres to last all the 70 laps as it is shown in the race analysis. Same with the car wear, you still raced 70 laps instead of 60 in all other areas except when cashing in for the race earnings.

Edit: Above example assumes you still managed to finish the race.
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Old post #11 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 13:58:09 Quote 
Quote ( Chris Williams @ July 2nd 2009,13:48:59 )

ALWAYS trust the race analysis.


Oh, misread the post ... yes, the race analysis. My mistake.
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Old post #12 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 14:03:57 Quote 
Thanks a lot for these precisions, its will be very helpful :)
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Old post #13 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 14:07:55 Quote 
Quote ( Dan Rice @ July 2nd 2009,13:55:23 )

last race my driver was ill in his helmet for the 2nd time this season, quite silly


Technical problems
Lap 57
Your driver was not feeling well in his helmet and it had to be changed with a new one


Can you please enlighten me what this has to do with the topic???
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Old post #14 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 14:09:52 Quote 
Quote ( Dan Rice @ July 2nd 2009,13:55:23 )

Lap 57
Your driver was not feeling well in his helmet and it had to be changed with a new one


If the lateral G's are much more than the driver can handle, this is what happens. :)
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Old post #15 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 14:10:46 (last edited Jul 2nd 2009, 14:14:32 by Dan Rice) Quote 
Quote ( Stefan Voggenreither @ July 2nd 2009,14:07:55 )

Can you please enlighten me what this has to do with the topic???




It is info from my Race analysis, so I feel it is fine to post in here.

Cheers for being picky, find something else to moan about
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Old post #16 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 14:17:30 Quote 
Quote ( Dan Rice @ July 2nd 2009,14:10:46 )

It is info from my Race analysis, so I feel it is fine to post in here.

Cheers for being picky, find something else to moan about


No, it is not fine. Cos the topic is about the different handling of the number of laps and not about technical problems that are silly in your opinion.

I dont think that your comment helped Amel in any way with his problem.

And yes, I will be picky now, cos lately I stumble across several post of you that dont have to be posted necessarily.
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Old post #17 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 14:19:07 Quote 
Don't be pathetic mate
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Old post #18 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 14:24:21 (last edited Jul 2nd 2009, 14:25:03 by Johan Hellemans) Quote 
Quote ( Dan Rice @ July 2nd 2009,14:19:07 )

Don't be pathetic mate


Troubles with hangover? :-)
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Old post #19 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 14:26:35 Quote 
Quote ( Johan Hellemans @ July 2nd 2009,14:24:21 )

Troubles with hangover?


No, I don't get hangovers, just fed up of people moaning about every little thing, get over yourselves I say, most people are ok, but the same few who just want to bitch and start trouble with me when there really is no need.
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Old post #20 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 14:27:09 Quote 
People only moan when posts aren't in any relation to the topics.
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Old post #21 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 14:27:45 (last edited Jul 2nd 2009, 14:28:53 by Stefan Voggenreither) Quote 
Dan, we are here in the Newbie forum. And I want to take care about that newbies get help here and not just some useless spam. And I wont discuss with you and neither I want to be offended by you.

So, if you dont change your behaviour immediately, be sure that we will apply our mod-tools on you from now on.

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Quote ( Dan Rice @ July 2nd 2009,14:26:35 )

people moaning about every little thing,


Please show me my recent moanings!
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Old post #22 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 14:28:29 Quote 
i wouldnt think it was a good idea to tell an Admin to stop being pathetic to be honest.
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Old post #23 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 14:29:04 Quote 
Quote ( Chris Williams @ July 2nd 2009,14:27:09 )

People only moan when posts aren't in any relation to the topics.


Well almost every thread have posts that aren't in any relation to the topics, they don't get moaned at
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Old post #24 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 14:31:43 (last edited Jul 2nd 2009, 14:31:55 by Nigel Davis) Quote 
i disagree, other peeps get told too.
just leave it now pal. really. its not worth getting worked up over.
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Old post #25 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 14:32:29 Quote 
Quote ( Dan Rice @ July 2nd 2009,14:29:04 )

Well almost every thread have posts that aren't in any relation to the topics, they don't get moaned at

Stop perceiving yourself as the poor little victim in all this.

We tell ANYONE who posts garbage in newbie threads to cease, not just you. We may be more lenient in Off Topic threads - but not in the newbie forum.
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Old post #26 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 15:02:16 Quote 
Dan, piece of advice...read what it says under Stefan's name...not that I believe he is moaning, but if he feels like doing it, I think he has the right to do so...
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Old post #27 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 15:09:07 Quote 
Cheers for your advice Bruno
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Old post #28 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 15:10:43 Quote 
Any time...
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Old post #29 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 15:21:28 (last edited Jul 2nd 2009, 15:23:00 by Andy Reid) Quote 
I find it hard to understand this subject too.

eg: if i was two lap`s behind race leader, when watching the race on lap 50 i`m actually on lap 48 are the lap time`s shown for the race leader`s lap (50) or my lap (48)?

Also same situation last lap of race (for the leader), me 2 lap behind, gaining on the position on front of me by nearly a second a lap, him being only half a second in front of me, and the car in front of him another half second, but with tech problem laping over 3 second`s a lap slower, surely with the 2 remaining lap`s i have to do i`d certainly get past one of them? if not both?

is this valid or am i just not understanding something correctly?
please correct me if i`m wrong:)

hope this make`s sense.
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Old post #30 posted Jul 2nd 2009, 15:32:35 Quote 
See the section on "Anomolies" :)

http://wiki./index.php/The_Race_Screen
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