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Topic: GPRO Supporter |
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Quote ( Luca Bertani @ February 11th 2015,02:20:44 ) Indeed Daniel , but as I said before it only applies to EU countries.
Not the whole EU, I checked and it quotes 6.8 for me.
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Quote ( Daniel Mason @ February 11th 2015,16:18:02 ) Oh, so I wasn't seeing things when that thing popped up.
Wait, are we talking about the same thing?
:P
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I got it, and I'm obviously not in the EU either. If we're going to start getting hit with VAT on supporter credit purchases, that's going to suck in entirely new ways.
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Quote ( Joe Manifold @ February 11th 2015,16:18:49 ) Quote ( Daniel Mason @ February 11th 2015,16:18:02 )
Oh, so I wasn't seeing things when that thing popped up.
Wait, are we talking about the same thing?
:P
Boobs?
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Quote ( Kevin Mcferrin @ February 11th 2015,16:22:09 ) If we're going to start getting hit with VAT on supporter credit purchases, that's going to suck in entirely new ways.
EU already have, depending on country, despite it being a donation :(
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Got it myself. Sorry, no VAT number here. :)
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If we're forced to have VAT on supporter credit purcahses, I'd question the legality of using a business VAT number to avoid paying that VAT, as supporter credits are clearly not a business expense.
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GPRO must have become VAT registered in its resident country recently, hence why VAT is now chargeable on supporter credits to all those in the E.U. without a VAT number.
If you can supply a VAT number, VAT won't be charged as due to some E.U. VAT rules.
Also what is stopping anyone just entering say the VAT number from the last receipt in your pocket!?!?!
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Quote ( Rafael Mantovani @ February 11th 2015,16:13:32 ) only European managers will have discounts then, based on VAT in their countries?
If you call a discount raising prices per >20% and then lowering them by the same amount then yes, we will be the only ones to have it ;-)
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Quote ( Joe Manifold @ February 11th 2015,02:16:41 ) ah it's increased for me. As Flo says, EU taxes. It's not
So if I buy it with my business (VAT number) I will pay 6,80? :P
Edit sorry already mentioned
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Quote ( Niels Wolters @ February 11th 2015,16:32:24 ) So if I buy it with my business (VAT number) I will pay 6,80? :P
Yep. VAT is not chargeable on E.U. sales, provided you provide a VAT number due to E.U. V.A.T. directives.
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Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ February 11th 2015,16:29:59 ) If we're forced to have VAT on supporter credit purcahses, I'd question the legality of using a business VAT number to avoid paying that VAT, as supporter credits are clearly not a business expense.
As a bookkeeper I can say, this can always be argued upon :D
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Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ February 11th 2015,16:29:59 ) If we're forced to have VAT on supporter credit purcahses, I'd question the legality of using a business VAT number to avoid paying that VAT, as supporter credits are clearly not a business expense.
Anything is a business expense if you mark it up as such :)
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Vat is too much in India .
Kiran you are a Indian ( Gujarati ) who lives in UK
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Quote ( Aki Perätalo @ February 11th 2015,16:36:09 ) Anything is a business expense if you mark it up as such :)
Only until the nearest Inland Revenue control :-P
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Ok the pop-up can be viewed in your account settings page, if you click on the link "Update VAT settings".
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Nice catch, Joe.
I hope it doesn't show up again after that first time.
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Quote ( Kshitij Sharma @ February 11th 2015,16:36:48 ) Kiran you are a Indian ( Gujarati ) who lives in UK
Yep, my parents are both Indian, but I have been born and raised in the U.K.
Indeed I am Gujarati as well, speak the language fluently as well with a regional Bristolian (westcountry) twang!
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Hi,
I hope you will understand my message dispate of quite low english skills.
I had the same popup.
I wonders about the information requested because in, France, only companies (or freelances) have a VAT number used to be exempted from paying off VAT for b2b purchases.
In the same time, the supporter fees growed up.
I guess it is about the new EU "anti-Amazon" or "Anti-PlayStore" or "Anti AppleStore" rule to prevent those major companies to install in countries with low VAT rate like Ireland or Luxembourg (<10%) and make huge business with countries in EU where VAT is high (20% in France), making some unfair market competition and income losses for the states.
That would explain each of us will not now pay the same amout of fees to be supporter, depending on the country where we live.
I would have appreciate the GPRO admins to explain the exact reason of the price change before applying it.
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Quote ( Frederic Ple @ February 11th 2015,16:50:42 ) I would have appreciate the GPRO admins to explain the exact reason of the price change before applying it.
Quote ( Vladimir Alexandrov @ January 20th 2015,18:43:59 ) Here are the new rules regarding VAT explained in details:
http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/taxation/vat/how_vat_wo...
No matter the way of payment the VAT for your country will be deducted from the amount you paid, and the remaining amount will be the supporter credits you will receive. This only applies for EU countries though.
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If it only applies to the EU, why are so many of us that don't live in EU seeing this popup?
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Gary Lineker is paying mine.
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Quote ( Daniel Mason @ February 11th 2015,16:57:51 ) If it only applies to the EU, why are so many of us that don't live in EU seeing this popup?
Probably not a way for them to make the pop-up come up for just people in the EU, so just set it to everyone.
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Quote ( Frederic Ple @ February 11th 2015,16:50:42 ) I guess it is about the new EU "anti-Amazon" or "Anti-PlayStore" or "Anti AppleStore" rule to prevent those major companies to install in countries with low VAT rate like Ireland or Luxembourg (<10%) and make huge business with countries in EU where VAT is high (20% in France), making some unfair market competition and income losses for the states.
That would explain each of us will not now pay the same amout of fees to be supporter, depending on the country where we live.
That is a stupid rule, wasn't EU supposed to be about openness and free movement of people and products within EU.. Now it seems to be going back to the way how everything was before, taxes taxes taxes and a bit more taxes.
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Quote ( Frederic Ple @ February 11th 2015,16:50:42 ) Hi,
I hope you will understand my message dispate of quite low english skills.
Very well. Dont' let "low language skills" stop you from posting english.
Clearly you can do it and you'll get better by practise :)
Quote ( Frederic Ple @ February 11th 2015,16:50:42 ) I wonders about the information requested because in, France, only companies (or freelances) have a VAT number used to be exempted from paying off VAT for b2b purchases.
For the case IF you happen to have it, then you can use it. I suspect many can not. But the possibility to input the information is presented to all.
Quote ( Frederic Ple @ February 11th 2015,16:50:42 ) In the same time, the supporter fees growed up.
Don't mean to be too pedantic, but the supporter fee itself did not increase.
Even when it's linked here, I'll recap the highlight:
On 1 January 2015 the VAT rules for cross-border B2C supplies of ‘digital services’ (i.e. broadcasting, telecoms and e-services) will change.
To conclude: The supporter fee is still the same, it's just there is VAT added.
Quote ( Frederic Ple @ February 11th 2015,16:50:42 ) That would explain each of us will not now pay the same amout of fees to be supporter, depending on the country where we live.
I would have appreciate the GPRO admins to explain the exact reason of the price change before applying it.
That does indeed explain it.
Granted there could have been advanced notification, but OTOH in this digital world where we live in one might think that this was general knowledge. (at least within EU)
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Quote ( Aki Perätalo @ February 11th 2015,17:38:16 ) Quote ( Frederic Ple @ February 11th 2015,16:50:42 )
I guess it is about the new EU "anti-Amazon" or "Anti-PlayStore" or "Anti AppleStore" rule to prevent those major companies to install in countries with low VAT rate like Ireland or Luxembourg (<10%) and make huge business with countries in EU where VAT is high (20% in France), making some unfair market competition and income losses for the states.
That would explain each of us will not now pay the same amout of fees to be supporter, depending on the country where we live.
That is a stupid rule, wasn't EU supposed to be about openness and free movement of people and products within EU.. Now it seems to be going back to the way how everything was before, taxes taxes taxes and a bit more taxes.
It's not just the EU. Here in India too, there is intense lobbying by the physical businesses to impose additional levies and taxes on internet based businesses. Thankfully, no such laws imposed here... yet.
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Quote ( Jon Garay @ February 11th 2015,17:50:25 ) Enough pop ups!
You only get this one once.
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