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Topic: UEFA Champions League (ALL SEASONS) |
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Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ April 12th 2018,17:24:28 ) Quote ( Giuseppe Masciandaro @ April 12th 2018,17:12:22 )
anykind of cospiracy teory are simply bullshit ... whatever you talk about flat heart, 9/11, penalty pro Real/Barca or Juve corrupting an entire system. get a life
You are absolutely right.
However, a conspiracy is no longer a conspiracy when all of its true elements have been exposed and proven in a public trial and actual sentences have been handed out.
if you talk about Farsopoly, well Jasper, again ... get a life!
really, I'm not going to open a discussion on this, you don't know what are you talking about.
The only thing I'm going to tell you is that even today, with, propbably, 7 scudettos in a raw people are blaming Juventus to pay off referees .... over here we all know what Inter Milan did, what AC Milan did, were Roma should have been sent years ago.
again, get a life
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"I may have robbed a bank, but don't blame me, look at all those other guys who robbed a bank too!"
Really, why are you dragging Inter, AC Milan and Roma into a discussion they have nothing to do with?
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AS Roma - Rolex
Inter Milan - false passports and refrees phone calls
Milan - Berlusconi
Apparently you don't know how the justice system works in Italy, you always need a scapegoat (maybe is not the right word in english) and Juve, as being the most famous team in Italy, payed for everyone.
You don't know what are you talking about, believe me ...
lets stop this nonsense discussion, I don't really care about it
Yesterday I saw a beautiful match and Juventus show to everyone that is at the same level with Real and all other top teams in Europe even if the money availability is not the same.
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Quote ( Giuseppe Masciandaro @ April 12th 2018,17:54:16 ) Yesterday I saw a beautiful match and Juventus show to everyone that is at the same level with Real and all other top teams in Europe even if the money availability is not the same.
Yes! Let's remember this, first and foremost.
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TY everybody who thumb'ed me down. And about Buffon and his red card his reaction was normal. To say he should stayed calmy is hard in the last minute of a double and a penalty when cleary wasn't the case is inhuman and ref should gave him yellow card. And if penalty was cleary then, why Benatia wasn't sent off too? And I agree with what is Matija saying in this case :P
P.S.: I'm a Real heater because they always have a penalty in this case, when other teams 99% of cases no.
Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ April 12th 2018,12:46:35 ) Quote ( Andrei Harnicu @ April 12th 2018,11:54:44 )
Everybody who says that penalty was clear are dumber than the referee. I'm not gonna watch football from now because Real has 12 players every match. Juventus had a clear penalty in first leg too.
After all, there is no European team with a greater tradition of cheating and corruption in modern football than Real. Hooray, the cheaters are in! Fixed :P
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Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ April 12th 2018,09:06:57 ) And what do you think about last year's Barca-PSG Lukasz ?
Same what I think about last year Real - Bayern :) In both cases referees made some pretty bad mistakes that heavily influenced outcome of both games.
Few last year proves one thing. CL needs VAR or other (hopefully better) video analysis system. Pretty much every team sport has it by now and it works pretty well in all of them. I dont buy arguments that it kills flow of the game. VAR is not perfect, it has its flaws, but its definetely required. And for the sake of both: referees and teams.
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Quote ( Lukasz Bajda @ April 12th 2018,22:17:50 ) Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ April 12th 2018,09:06:57 )
And what do you think about last year's Barca-PSG Lukasz ?
Same what I think about last year Real - Bayern :) In both cases referees made some pretty bad mistakes that heavily influenced outcome of both games.
Few last year proves one thing. CL needs VAR or other (hopefully better) video analysis system. Pretty much every team sport has it by now and it works pretty well in all of them. I dont buy arguments that it kills flow of the game. VAR is not perfect, it has its flaws, but its definetely required. And for the sake of both: referees and teams.
But VAR would not have changed nothing yesterday ... Some people say penalty, other people say not penalty, some people say red card, other people say not red card...
I think that the VAR won't change anything. It will cause more problem than today.
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Yep. Im pretty sure VAR wouldnt change anything yesterday and referee would make same decision, but at least it would cut the discussion that referee made a "mistake".He would have a chance to review the situation and make a decision according to his knowledge of football rules. Those who favor conspiracy theories would still scream, that Real "bought" the game, but there is nothing that can be done with it. You can have a panel of 5 referees for every game, video analysis, majority vote, online pool, official trial & investigation and some fans will still no accept final decision if its not in favor of their team.
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Lets play predict the draw that'll almost certainly happen
Liverpool vs Bayern Munich
Real Madrid vs Roma
Lets do the Europa League as well while we are at it
Arsenal vs RB Salzburg
Marseille vs Athletico Madrid
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Quote ( Kyle Morris @ April 12th 2018,23:05:51 ) Lets play predict the draw that'll almost certainly happen
Liverpool vs Bayern Munich
Real Madrid vs Roma
Lets do the Europa League as well while we are at it
Arsenal vs RB Salzburg
Marseille vs Athletico Madrid
Real Madrid v Liverpool
Bayern Munich v Roma
RB Salzburg v Atletico
Arsenal v Marseille
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Where are people screaming about the scandal of Marseille going through thanks to two offside goals that should have been disallowed? :)
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Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ April 12th 2018,23:25:41 ) Where are people screaming about the scandal of Marseille going through thanks to two offside goals that should have been disallowed? :)
Wrong thread, Jasper. They are in the Europa League :p
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No they're not, they're in this thread but they're too busy downvoting my posts. :D
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I think this conversation went into a wrong direction lol
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Quote ( Kyle Morris @ April 12th 2018,23:05:51 ) Lets play predict the draw that'll almost certainly happen
Liverpool vs Bayern Munich
Real Madrid vs Roma
Lets do the Europa League as well while we are at it
Arsenal vs RB Salzburg
Marseille vs Athletico Madrid YOU HERO
Arsenal vs Bayern
Real Madrid vs Atletico... wait
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Marseille it has been my favorite club especially when Cana was the captain of the team.
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PSG, Juve and then Bayern. Real didn't use hot balls for the draw.
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From now Im gonna be like Mia San Mia :D
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Quote ( Samoeni Albanalopolis @ April 13th 2018,09:10:41 ) Marseille it has been my favorite club especially when Cana was the captain of the team.
Cana also played for FC Nantes. I'm a fan of FC Nantes...
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Do you know Ermir Lenjani ?
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Real will have played against the actual Ligue 1 champions - PSG, Calcio champions - Juve and Bundesliga champions - Bayern.
Definitely UEFA can't help it when it comes to pull the strings in favour of Real Madrid.
Seriously tho, I'm glad we're having a dark horse in the final and I'd really love to see Liverpool winning it again 12 years later. Liverpool - Milan finals is the best one for me.
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Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ April 13th 2018,13:21:50 ) PSG, Juve and then Bayern. Real didn't use hot balls for the draw.
Yeah, got multiple referees from many countries involved in a continent wide conspiracy to help the likes of Real progress at the expense of teams from their own nation, but didn't think to just fix the draw (so minimal people would be involved in the dodgy behaviour) to give them easier opposition ;)
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Quentin, you can use the edit button within 30 minutes to avoid consecutive, related posts, which would be better as a single post. Thanks :)
(Irony of a double post, albeit unrelated, to ask someone not to double post is not lost on me :p)
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Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ April 13th 2018,13:33:12 ) Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ April 13th 2018,13:21:50 )
PSG, Juve and then Bayern. Real didn't use hot balls for the draw.
Yeah, got multiple referees from many countries involved in a continent wide conspiracy to help the likes of Real progress at the expense of teams from their own nation, but didn't think to just fix the draw (so minimal people would be involved in the dodgy behaviour) to give them easier opposition ;)
You can mock the thought all you want, but it stays fishy when you see most of Real's last Quarter Finals as well as some other games (e.g. last years Final).
Although I think the main reason for that is not a conspiracy but rather that the La Liga Players dive like crazy (Bayern - Sevilla was full of Sevilla players falling down for the slightest of touches and that referee was having none of it) and it doesn't get penalised harshly enough, so eventually one dive is going to be mistakingly thought to be serious. But that is still a problem.
I do wonder if there are statistics around how many times wrong decisions are made to favour Spanish teams.
Edit//I am definitely going to be sceptical about the referees in Bayern - Real. Wonder if they put Kassai in again :)
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You can mock the thought all you want, but it stays fishy to see most of Real's last Quarter Finals as well as some other games (e.g. last years Final).
Although I think the main reason for that is not a conspiracy but rather that the La Liga Players dive like crazy (Bayern - Sevilla was full of Sevilla players falling down for the slightest of touches and that referee was having none of it) and it doesn't get penalised harshly enough, so eventually one dive is going to be mistakingly thought to be serious. But that is still a problem.
I do wonder if there are statistics around how many times wrong decisions are made to favour Spanish teams.
I may agree with you but what about Calcio players?
Roma players were playing like hungry dogs and Fazio for instance shouldn't have finished the game. Same goes to Juve players, they had 6 freaking yellow cards at min 50.
AND YES, here players are pussies who dive everytime they can but that doesn't change the fact that Italian teams/football have always been one of the dirtiest.
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Quote ( Julio Asencio @ April 13th 2018,13:42:10 ) I may agree with you but what about Calcio players?
Roma players were playing like hungry dogs and Fazio for instance shouldn't have finished the game. Same goes to Juve players, they had 6 freaking yellow cards at min 50.
In the 00s the Calcio was known for that kind of behaviour as well, but I've had the feeling it digressed over the years. Haven't seen the Roma match though so can't judge that one.
Diving in general is a problem that should be targeted more often. As much as I love "our" (Bayerns) Arjey Robben, it has a good reason why he is named "Flying Dutchman" here and thats not just because he is quick. But some leagues are more extreme in that matter than others, and that keeps an issue.
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Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ April 13th 2018,13:34:58 ) Quentin, you can use the edit button within 30 minutes to avoid consecutive, related posts, which would be better as a single post. Thanks :)
(Irony of a double post, albeit unrelated, to ask someone not to double post is not lost on me :p)
Yes sorry :-P
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Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ April 13th 2018,13:29:31 ) Do you know Ermir Lenjani ? Yeah he kinda is bad player.Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ April 13th 2018,13:33:12 ) Yeah, got multiple referees from many countries involved in a continent wide conspiracy to help the likes of Real progress at the expense of teams from their own nation, but didn't think to just fix the draw Chill mate, you will see a good referee show soon. Mark my words.
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I agree with you Tim but it seems quite oportunistic to bring that kind of things into the argument when Dybala himself tried to do the dive of the year and eventually got kicked out of the game. I mean, football nowadays is kind of infected and sadly La Liga is a joke in this matter.
That said, I don't think this is related to Spanish European kingdom over the last 12 years.
Barcelona, Madrid, Atlético, Sevilla... 10 secs spent on google is enough to check the trophies history :)
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