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Old post #4831 posted May 5th 2021, 07:36:35 Quote 
Quote ( Ioannis Kalogirou @ May 5th 2021,07:19:34 )

PORTIMAO 3/5/21
https://prnt.sc/12id7oq
https://prnt.sc/12idbhl
https://prnt.sc/12idd0g


TBH Ioannis, they look the same number of metres away from each other pretty consistently, unless you're pointing out something else?
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Old post #4832 posted May 5th 2021, 12:33:56 Quote 
Quote ( Ioannis Kalogirou @ May 5th 2021,07:19:34 )

PORTIMAO 3/5/21
https://prnt.sc/12id7oq
https://prnt.sc/12idbhl
https://prnt.sc/12idd0g

In case of doubt, you can always check Google Maps with the satellite view: https://www.google.be/maps/place/Aut%C3%B3dromo+Internaciona...

Comparing to your screenshots, they even resurfaced the track to put the grid evenly, so maybe they foresaw people complaining about it?

(Just asking for a friend, tho, he told me there was fans trashtalking F1 in a daily basis)
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Old post #4833 posted May 5th 2021, 12:54:05 (last edited May 5th 2021, 12:54:18 by Branislav Mihic) Quote 
I took the measuring stick on Google Maps (satellite view). Distance from pole to 3rd is 15.0 metres. Distance from 2nd to 4th is 13.0 metres.
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Old post #4834 posted May 5th 2021, 13:07:04 Quote 
Quote ( Branislav Mihic @ May 5th 2021,12:54:05 )

I took the measuring stick on Google Maps (satellite view). Distance from pole to 3rd is 15.0 metres. Distance from 2nd to 4th is 13.0 metres.

Lens distortion ;)
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Old post #4835 posted May 5th 2021, 21:02:03 Quote 
Quote ( Branislav Mihic @ May 5th 2021,12:54:05 )

I took the measuring stick on Google Maps (satellite view). Distance from pole to 3rd is 15.0 metres. Distance from 2nd to 4th is 13.0 metres.


Indeed they should be the same. All distances are slightly different but they are "paired" closer. 1-2 are closer than 2-3 and so on.

Anyway. GPRO is not F1, right?...
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Old post #4836 posted May 5th 2021, 22:00:12 (last edited May 5th 2021, 22:08:26 by Mikko Heikkinen) Quote 
Quote ( Zé Pedro Paula @ May 5th 2021,21:02:03 )

Indeed they should be the same. All distances are slightly different but they are "paired" closer. 1-2 are closer than 2-3 and so on.


Not necessarily.

For example: https://prnt.sc/12idbhl

That is not the actual start position, it's the pre-warmup situation.

The car on the right is fully behind the yellow line (front wing also behind the line), where as the next car has it's front tyres on the line and the next car is partially on the yellow line.

Point is... pre-warmup positions are not grid positions, they can make things seem different than they are


You can see the same yellow car here: https://prnt.sc/12idbhl Completely behind the yellow line, where as others are not. That can make it seem that the "next row" is further back than it actually is.


Quote ( Branislav Mihic @ May 5th 2021,12:54:05 )

Distance from pole to 3rd is 15.0 metres. Distance from 2nd to 4th is 13.0 metres.

One explanation could be that on that particular track maybe the pole has been given a little bit of significance.

But when one looks at this: https://static.independent.co.uk/2021/04/28/16/newFile-14.jp... it does look like all cars have the same space between them. One just needs to consider the angle of the shot. The space between the first few cars look the same
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Old post #4837 posted May 5th 2021, 22:09:51 (last edited May 5th 2021, 22:15:18 by Zé Pedro Paula) Quote 
Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ May 5th 2021,22:00:12 )

Not necessarily.



For example: https://prnt.sc/12idbhl



I was referring to the google map aerial image that has some distortions but I measured inner corner of the start line of the cars to the next inner corner, diagonally, and the distances from 1 to 2, 3 to 4, 5 to 6 and so on are roughly 8 meters and from 2 to 3, 4 to 5 and so on is 10 meters on average.

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Old post #4838 posted May 5th 2021, 22:22:46 (last edited May 5th 2021, 22:47:25 by Mikko Heikkinen) Quote 
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Quote ( Zé Pedro Paula @ May 5th 2021,22:09:51 )

I was referring to the google map aerial image that has some distortions but I measure inner corner of the start line of the cars to the next inner corner, diagonally, and the distances from 1 to 2, 3 to 4, 5 to 6 and so on are roughly 8 meters and from 2 to 3, 4 to 5 and so on is 10 meters on average.


ok, if it so that brings up an interesting thought...

IF the grid positions in F1 actually have that, it could mean that they have made adjustments to the grid in order to balance out the clean/dirty side of the track ?

Could that mean that the latest change to GPRO was to wrong direction ? Because there was no clean/dirty side, there was no need for alternating spacing between grid positions on clean/dirty side.

But now when the clean/dirty side has been introduced, maybe there would be a need for "compensating" alternating grid distances.

And if so, in order to make it (I hate to say this) "realistic" one of the following: in GPRO remove the clean/dirty side effect from start or adjust the starting positions to balance it out.

I do hope the chain of thought can be followed :)
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Old post #4839 posted May 5th 2021, 22:37:01 Quote 
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I actually didn't feel any difference with the dirty side. But more sensitive people assure there is one.

Regarding the differences in the grid, I'm quite surprised, even argued against being different but I do like that in GPRO there is no difference. It still makes more sense to me.

Unless there is an actual disadvantage being on one side of the grid and it's some compensation that I've no clue about how they came to that or other differences.

I think I would vote against the change, unless there is some kind of unfairness.
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Old post #4840 posted yesterday at 14:03:38 Quote 
Is it possible to add a new Chart showing the lap times, similar to the Lap chart and to include an Excel download link as well, thanks.
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Old post #4841 posted yesterday at 14:10:50 Quote 
Isn't that it? /gb/RaceAnalysisGraph.asp
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Old post #4842 posted yesterday at 14:19:31 Quote 
@Tibor Szuromi (A4)
Yep it's it, but for supporter...
I Think that @Mike Bennett (P15) want also csv extraction capacités 😆
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Old post #4843 posted yesterday at 14:26:44 (last edited yesterday at 14:28:35 by Tibor Szuromi) Quote 
Quote ( Sébastien Boulanger @ May 7th 2021,14:19:31 )

csv
Surely the race time can be useful for him. :) 🧐
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Old post #4844 posted yesterday at 14:35:22 Quote 
Quote ( Sébastien Boulanger @ May 7th 2021,14:19:31 )

@Tibor Szuromi (A4)
Yep it's it, but for supporter...
I Think that @Mike Bennett (P15) want also csv extraction capacités 😆


That is one of the benefits of being a supporter.

Else there is always copy-paste and some minor tweaking.

Once you download it to Excel, doing a csv is easy as pie.
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Old post #4845 posted yesterday at 14:42:32 Quote 
Power Query
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Old post #4846 posted yesterday at 14:50:51 Quote 
Not even power query is needed. The xls download is actually a plain text xml file, just treat it as a text file and use literally any parsing method you like.
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Old post #4847 posted yesterday at 14:55:01 Quote 
Where is xls download?
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Old post #4848 posted yesterday at 15:00:14 Quote 
At the bottom of the race analysis page.

/gb/PastSetupsXLS.asp?SR=81,12
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Old post #4849 posted yesterday at 15:02:34 Quote 
Not just supporters.
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Old post #4850 posted yesterday at 15:06:31 Quote 
Yes, another suporter feature ;)

I receive requests for GO like it, but like Vlad said to me, i've not to break the supporter feature ^^

And i think this is important...

There is many ways to get it ^^
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Old post #4851 posted yesterday at 15:27:33 Quote 
Ohh, sorry. I thought it's available for everyone as long as you want only the last race xls.
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Old post #4852 posted yesterday at 15:29:00 Quote 
Nope, this is historical datas, all historical datas are supporter feature :)
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Old post #4853 posted yesterday at 19:19:57 (last edited yesterday at 19:20:31 by Zé Pedro Paula) Quote 
Quote ( Mike Bennett @ May 7th 2021,14:03:38 )

Is it possible to add a new Chart showing the lap times


I think he really meant a Chart. And yes, it is possible. :-)
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Old post #4854 posted yesterday at 19:42:39 Quote 
Sounds a bit silly, but just for curiosity, I'm willing to get a race summary's page per tyre supplier :)
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