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Topic: Sponsor has decided to pull back from negotiation |
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#1 posted Jun 14th 2012, 13:02:56
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Now from the start of the season I decided to negotiate with 2 sponsors, but one pulled back after a few races, even though I finished all races on the podium and selected top 4 expectation, so I continued with the other sponsor and selected the same expectation, but that one pulled back too?
Is this a measurement so that its harder to get sponsors in Rookie so that there is more parity or is there another reason, like that at the time the expectations weren't so realistic?
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#2 posted Jun 14th 2012, 13:03:43
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#3 posted Jun 14th 2012, 13:05:49
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A sponsor pulling back from a negotiation or cancelling an active contract are both situations directly related to the way you negotiated the contract with the sponsor
http://wiki.gpro.net/index.php/Sponsors
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#4 posted Jun 14th 2012, 13:08:09
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Quote ( Martin Gelder @ June 14th 2012,13:02:56 ) even though I finished all races on the podium
What about race 2 and 5 you didn't finish on the podium?
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#5 posted Jun 14th 2012, 13:16:32
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Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ June 14th 2012,13:03:43 ) This is FOBY.
Nothing is FOBY, its only FOBY when people say it is.
Quote ( Matt Murray @ June 14th 2012,13:08:09 )
What about race 2 and 5 you didn't finish on the podium?
Yeah, but the first sponsor pulled back after race 3, and the other one pulled back after this race. Maybe it was because the season standings were really close?
Should I then select mid table, even though I have a good chance of finishing in the top 4? I guess the non podiums finishes could have something to do with it.
@Sion, yeah I read that but that doesn't really help me, lol.
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#6 posted Jun 14th 2012, 13:18:32
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Have a closer look at the sponsors stats. That may give you an answer to your question as well as how to possibly proceed in future.
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#7 posted Jun 14th 2012, 13:19:12
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Perhaps the sponsor didn't necessarily look for top 4 expectation?
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#8 posted Jun 14th 2012, 13:20:47
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Quote ( Martin Gelder @ June 14th 2012,13:16:32 )
Nothing is FOBY, its only FOBY when people say it is.
And i said it.
All depends on the characteristics of the sponsor and your answers to the questions, And that is something you have to FIND OUT BY YOURSELF or with a team :)
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#9 posted Jun 14th 2012, 13:23:51
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Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ June 14th 2012,13:20:47 ) All depends on the characteristics of the sponsor and your answers to the questions, And that is something you have to FIND OUT BY YOURSELF or with a team :)
Now you wrote what you should write in the first post :-)
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Quote ( Tomek Kiełpiński @ June 14th 2012,13:23:51 ) Perhaps the sponsor didn't necessarily look for top 4 expectation?
Yeah, I think I interpreted the expectations field wrong, but I think I figured it out. Lower expectations doesn't mean less pressure to finish in a good position, just that they actually don't look for a high position.
So Ill go for a sponsor with higher expectations.
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#11 posted Jun 15th 2012, 14:13:11
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I'll give you a hint, look at their expectation level. If it's high and you say something you aren't acheiving they will wave goodbye.
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#12 posted Jun 15th 2012, 14:25:03
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Posting FOBY in the Newbie thread is not very nice. Please provide explanations why it would be FOBY, and then try to point them in the general direction please.
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#13 posted Jun 15th 2012, 14:25:49
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Quote ( Michael Winkley @ June 15th 2012,14:25:03 ) Posting FOBY in the Newbie thread is not very nice. Please provide explanations why it would be FOBY, and then try to point them in the general direction please.
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ June 14th 2012,13:20:47 ) All depends on the characteristics of the sponsor and your answers to the questions, And that is something you have to FIND OUT BY YOURSELF or with a team :)
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#14 posted Jun 15th 2012, 14:27:33
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#15 posted Jun 15th 2012, 14:46:27
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Martin, don't give them the perfect answers. Give them the answers they want to hear by looking at their characteristics. An example is if a sponsor has the lowest expectations then why would you tell him that you're gonna be the world champion.
Other attributes can indicate clues to answering other questions.
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Quote ( Martin Gelder @ June 15th 2012,13:54:55 ) So Ill go for a sponsor with higher expectations.
I wouldn't do that.
At least I wouldn't go too high. Made that noob mistake last season. Ended up with 0 sponsors and my current account reflects that pretty well xD
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Quote ( Cliff Rajgopaul @ June 15th 2012,14:46:27 ) Martin, don't give them the perfect answers. Give them the answers they want to hear by looking at their characteristics. An example is if a sponsor has the lowest expectations then why would you tell him that you're gonna be the world champion.
This is the lead to follow. Great insight, without any big FOBY involved.
Quote ( Jensen Owens @ June 15th 2012,15:34:19 ) Maybe some 1 or ready signed the deal ?
You would know that from comparing your own progress with the avg. progress.
Suppose you are at 20% and avg. is 55%. Again, suppose it's you and another guy. This means: avg x 2 = 55 x 2 = 110. Then, 110 - your own progress (20%) = 90%, that should be the progress of the other manager.
If one or two races ahead the sponsors quits, it's likely that the other manager might have signed the deal. Of course, it may be hard to find out how many manager are negotiating at one time it you dont do a very close follow up on this and takes notes of the avg. progress before and after you joined the negotiation
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Quote ( Andrei Ciuchi @ June 14th 2012,13:19:12 ) Perhaps the sponsor didn't necessarily look for top 4 expectation?
That sounds good
Maybe some 1 or ready signed the deal ?
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#19 posted Jun 15th 2012, 19:49:33
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If the sponsor signs a deal, they tell you and who it is they signed with.
If you don't get that, then you have to look at other things that may have caused them to stop negotiating with you. Some good clues and advice in this thread.
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#20 posted Jun 21st 2012, 09:42:58
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I had asponsor pull out last week :( However, now in negotition with another, and over 60% :)
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#21 posted Jun 21st 2012, 11:43:37
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Mick, if you drop me a line I can probably mess up your next one, Im the sponsor douchebag of GPRO :-p
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#22 posted Jun 21st 2012, 13:49:53
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GPRO rules
5.1 Sponsors
(...)
Reputation: Represents the reputation of the sponsor. The higher the reputation the less is the chance the sponsor to throw a surprise at you.
... ;)
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#23 posted Jun 21st 2012, 14:18:49
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Martin this thread seems to have everything you need to know without specifics, to tackle sponsors in the future. It is a very good indications of how sponsors think.
Good Luck!
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#24 posted Jun 21st 2012, 15:57:04 (last edited Jun 21st 2012, 15:59:51 by Max Watson)
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Reputation: Represents the reputation of the sponsor.
Frankly I'd never have made that connection.
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#25 posted Jun 21st 2012, 16:05:06
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You are, of course, welcome to re-write some aspects of the Game Rules page and submit them to an Admin as a suggestion for their improvement. Failing that, there was no need for such a meaningless post.
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#26 posted Jun 21st 2012, 16:22:41
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Yes there was. It made me laugh :)
Although it is newbie forum so suppose its supposed to be strictly relevant :(
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Quote ( Michael Winkley @ June 21st 2012,16:05:06 ) Failing that, there was no need for such a meaningless post.
Yeah, how dare anyone come along and make a humorous comment.
edit: or what Kevin said...darnit. :-p
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#28 posted Jun 26th 2012, 15:49:25
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The sponsor characteristics are very misleading. As far as I look at them seems like when it's red and less sticks it should be worse for me and green better. So 1 Red stick at expectations mean the sponsor expects a lot ant full green doesn't expect anything. But it's so hard to comprehend when you look at these like Reputation should be the other way the more green sticks bigger reputation less smaller. I just cannot understand how it works.
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#29 posted Jun 26th 2012, 15:49:50
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Quote ( Andrius Barzda @ June 26th 2012,15:49:25 ) I just cannot understand how it works.
Are you talking about the mobile phone in your picture?
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