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Do you think the new rule change is a good idea?
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Topic: Rookie reset rule change |
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Maybe they should allow people to promote even if they are in neg balance , that might stop it and they'd have a more difficult season when they promote
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Quote ( Martin Freeth @ September 24th 2013,09:06:10 ) Maybe they should allow people to promote even if they are in neg balance , that might stop it and they'd have a more difficult season when they promote
haha I like it ;)
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lots of rookies wouldn't learn a lot about the game if they could promote with a negative balance. That would just create a whole new set of problems with people spending far too much and rookies would HAVE to spend a lot to be competitive.
Pretty soon just about every rookie promoter would have a negative balance and be screwed in Amateur.
I think the way this problem has been tackled is excellent, might see a change to the actual amount of penalty after it's been tested a bit but a great solution
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16% vote no, yet this thread is filled with crying.
I'll just call it the boohoo-rule.
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I don't see what difference it makes to driver training, and it annoys super rookies. So yeah, don't really care.
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Quote ( Josh Clark @ September 24th 2013,09:53:30 ) I don't see what difference it makes to driver training, and it annoys super rookies. So yeah, don't really care.
Yes, totally agree, it only could be beneficial to everybody apart from super-rookies.
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Perfect news. My only worry is that the punishment is not severe enough....starting with 11mil shouldn't limit them that much.
@those whinging about Joan or Roca's rights: learn your GPRO history and then come here tell about ruining other player's game experience...
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Good rule change which reiterates the philosophy of the game. It is still the same for everyone so no issues in my opinion. Part of being a good manager is adapting to change :)
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Quote ( Florencia Caro @ September 24th 2013,01:55:05 ) Quote ( Michael Winkley @ September 24th 2013,01:46:31 )
which is that it applies to all negatives Ending the season with negative balance is the way to avoid promotion, no matter if the person is keeping the driver (by using the -$15m manoeuvre) or not. The rule spirit is to force promotion for the ones that are ready to promote and are retaining rookie just to win the group season after season, no matter if the manager keeps the driver or changes it.
Maybe there should be a risk-reward deduction or something then? The closer you are to $0 the lower the penalty per point beyond 50 points.$50k per point from $0-$1m all the way up to $200k per point beyond $15m.
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Quote ( Janne Väänänen @ September 24th 2013,10:12:57 ) Perfect news. My only worry is that the punishment is not severe enough....starting with 11mil shouldn't limit them that much.
I agree with that.
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Quote ( Peter Franklin @ September 24th 2013,05:30:38 ) Terrible, people who play this game for the fun and don't have the time needed to put in to move up will be leaving this game by the dozens now
No real effect on me, I just feel sdorry for all thos who have been f%cked up the a$s from the decision, it really is the most terrible this game has ever came up with... All the possible options they could have done, and they put the worst possible option in. Congratulations. Massive overreaction alert...
I just took a look at 10 random rookie groups from last season
Total managers: 256
Total managers finishing above 50 points: 47 (18.3%)
Total managers finishing above 50 points & negative: 9 (3.5%)
Basically, this rule change doesnt even affect a lot of people. In fact i completely agree with Janne:
Quote ( Janne Väänänen @ September 24th 2013,10:12:57 ) My only worry is that the punishment is not severe enough
I think it should have been a graded penalty:
Each point above 50 & total 51-60 points = 200,000 per point
Each point above 60 & total 61-70 points = 250,000 per point
Each point above 70 & total 71-80 points = 300,000 per point
and so on...
Now that would be a stricter penalty for the obvious life-rookies ;{)
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Quote ( Saulius Majauskas @ September 24th 2013,06:20:12 ) Yo, why is there no 'I don't give a tiny rat's ass' option in the poll? Had to settle with Sparta... :)
+1 !
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what a crappy rule, why even spend time on this!
Just let people in Rookie who get 50+ points for 2 seasons in a row promote! They will be in negative, so will sell all parts/facilities they have and therefore start in Amateur with level 1 car and 0 facilities, that will teach them!!
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The rule has been very well thought out to prevent Super Rookies from totally dominating every race every season, while not affecting new players at all and doing very little to have an impact on those training for later promotion; they just need to adapt their plans slightly which allows other managers who want to promote to get better results on the track.
For those that genuinely want to "mess about" and just have fun with little time, you can easily do that in Amateur, and have a slight challenge in doing so. The game should not cater to those wanting to dominate a Rookie group so they can have some fun, at the expense of other managers in that group.
I really can't understand any negativity towards the change apart from people that haven't properly thought it through and understood the actual impact, or lack of on most managers, that it will have.
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Quote ( Pauli Käkelä @ September 24th 2013,09:41:04 ) yet this thread is filled with crying.
All this rule has done for me is put my plan to go back to rookie once I fail in pro into re-consideration :)
I'll just stay in amateur for a while
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Quote ( Jake Clark @ September 24th 2013,12:00:48 ) All this rule has done for me is put my plan to go back to rookie once I fail in pro into re-consideration :)
I'll just stay in amateur for a while
There is no great benefit in ever dropping back to Rookie if you can help it. Much better to hang about in Amateur :)
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Quote ( Javier Caceres @ September 24th 2013,12:06:32 ) /es/ManagerProfile.asp?IDM=10736
poor guy he`s in the end of the sweet days...
All good things must come to an end :p
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I just think this was a good idea !
I some groups, like mine, some managers always finish in negative to avoid promotion...
The goal of this game was to progress, not to stay as same level and win all races just for win in a low challenge level !
But, i prefer an other idea, it's to make possible promotion with negative balance, the game will be very harder for a lot of managers !
:)
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I accept ppl can have fun in anyway they choose, but not at the cost of other ppls seasons.
Why should someone playing the way the game was built to be played, lose rookie achievements, cup wins, group wins, to someone who is planning to do that same next season but never truly compete.
Its like trying to play scrabble against someone who makes up words. Only one person is having fun.
Difference is, untl now we have had no choice but to play against these ppl, now the best player will win.
Its a competitive game and should be played that way IMO :P
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Quote ( Javier Caceres @ September 24th 2013,12:06:32 ) poor guy he`s in the end of the sweet days...
Poor guy should not even been excepted to play again after his cheating
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Quote ( Kirsty Ridley @ September 24th 2013,12:41:27 ) I accept ppl can have fun in anyway they choose, but not at the cost of other ppls seasons.
Why should someone playing the way the game was built to be played, lose rookie achievements, cup wins, group wins, to someone who is planning to do that same next season but never truly compete.
Its like trying to play scrabble against someone who makes up words. Only one person is having fun.
Difference is, untl now we have had no choice but to play against these ppl, now the best player will win.
Its a competitive game and should be played that way IMO :P
Wehn can scrap all groups not Elite?
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Why not kick/ban those rotten tomatoes much better IMO
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Quote ( Michael Winkley @ September 24th 2013,12:59:05 ) Wehn can scrap all groups not Elite?
What will you do next season if that happens, Michael??? :P
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I would even go further than this and reset the driver in rookie when you end up in negative figures.
Training your driver in rookie is ok, but it shouldn't be allowed to spend more money than you have to be able to keep your driver for the next season. This is beyond all logic. If motivation is intentionally dropped by going -15m, no real driver would want to stay with that team.
It's like Ferrari saying : "Hey Alonso, we just spent 20m on a party you weren't invited at and we hope that now you're angry with us you will still stay with us next season.
So my opinion: training your driver in Rookie is ok, but do it within the budget you have or the driver leaves the team.
Just my 20m...
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Quote ( Kirsty Ridley @ September 24th 2013,13:02:58 ) Quote ( Michael Winkley @ September 24th 2013,12:59:05 )
Wehn can scrap all groups not Elite?
What will you do next season if that happens, Michael??? :P
Best to ask that question to someone that won't be in Elite next season. ;)
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so 50 points in Rookie means a guaranteed promotion?
shouldnt it be just a little higher?
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