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#1 posted Mar 18th 2016, 11:37:32
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So maybe I'm completely missing the point here, but what is the point of the (very slow) race? I get the use of the data and results afterwards, but given that we can't change strategy during the race itself (which is a huge shame, would add so much to the gameplay), I can't see the point of watching the race...
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Beer & rage
Also changing strategy during the race would be great - for people online. If you're not a good time zone for the races then it would kinda suck balls.
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#3 posted Mar 18th 2016, 11:41:05
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Quote ( Phil Maunder @ March 18th 2016,11:40:20 ) Beer & rage
could not have put it better myself!
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#4 posted Mar 18th 2016, 11:41:34
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Quote ( Mark Barker @ March 18th 2016,11:37:32 ) I can't see the point of watching the race...
I don't wanna be rude but nobody is forcing you to watch the race. Furthermore, this game is played by people from all over the world, living in different timezones. For some people the race is run in the middle of the night, wouldn't it be unfair to them if you can change strategies during the race because you live in the good timezone and they can't because they are asleep?
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#5 posted Mar 18th 2016, 11:42:00
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1) Chat with team
2) Have something to look at instead of an excel sheet
3) LOSE YOUR SHIT WHEN YOU GET A RANDOM
4) Smile smugly as your national anthem plays
5) Tell your girlfriend it's race night and have 2 hours man time
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#6 posted Mar 18th 2016, 11:42:18
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It is one of the most entertaining way to spend your friday evening!
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#7 posted Mar 18th 2016, 11:43:12
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Some people like it, some don't.
It's not like you know exactly what's going to happen at the start. And by the end if something did happen that you weren't expecting and you weren't watching the race, that's why some people do watch it. It can throw up some surprises and can be exciting some of the time. Granted, probably not in Rookie.
Watch a Master or an Elite race. Pick a favourite racer or something. Stuff sometimes happens and it can be fun to watch battles.
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Race is simulated ~90min before you can watch it.
If You will be able to change strategy during race, You will have adventage than non-online managers. GPRO isn't just EU, whole world can play this. In Asia race is in night.
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#9 posted Mar 18th 2016, 11:44:20
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Quote ( Mark Barker @ March 18th 2016,11:37:32 )So maybe I'm completely missing the point here, but what is the point of the (very slow) race? I get the use of the data and results afterwards, but given that we can't change strategy during the race itself (which is a huge shame, would add so much to the gameplay), I can't see the point of watching the race...
What's the point of watching any race on TV then? Or any sport event? Anyway you cannot influent it. Wouldn't it be much better and saving the time just to look for results after?
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#10 posted Mar 18th 2016, 11:44:28
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Quote ( Josh Clark @ March 18th 2016,11:43:12 ) Stuff sometimes happens
GPRO is just like real F1 after all.
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#11 posted Mar 18th 2016, 11:45:31
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Quote ( Sam Wainwright @ March 18th 2016,11:44:28 ) Quote ( Josh Clark @ March 18th 2016,11:43:12 )
Stuff sometimes happens
GPRO is just like real F1 after all.
If we were doing a "describe F1 in 3 words" game...
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#12 posted Mar 18th 2016, 11:47:44
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Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 18th 2016,11:41:34 ) Quote ( Mark Barker @ March 18th 2016,11:37:32 )
I can't see the point of watching the race...
I don't wanna be rude but nobody is forcing you to watch the race. Furthermore, this game is played by people from all over the world, living in different timezones. For some people the race is run in the middle of the night, wouldn't it be unfair to them if you can change strategies during the race because you live in the good timezone and they can't because they are asleep?
You're spot on, and I've only watched one race! It just seems that a fair bit of coding etc would've gone into creating a seemingly useless part of the game.
As for time zones, totally agree, and would propose that if you could change strategies then the races would be run at the tracks local time, so each time zone would have some late night/early morning races as well as more convenient times.
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#13 posted Mar 18th 2016, 11:48:47
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Quote ( Mark Barker @ March 18th 2016,11:47:44 ) As for time zones, totally agree, and would propose that if you could change strategies then the races would be run at the tracks local time, so each time zone would have some late night/early morning races as well as more convenient times.
Mark how would you organize that?
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#14 posted Mar 18th 2016, 11:49:58
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Quote ( Virgis Lyss @ March 18th 2016,11:44:20 ) Quote ( Mark Barker @ March 18th 2016,11:37:32 )So maybe I'm completely missing the point here, but what is the point of the (very slow) race? I get the use of the data and results afterwards, but given that we can't change strategy during the race itself (which is a huge shame, would add so much to the gameplay), I can't see the point of watching the race...
What's the point of watching any race on TV then? Or any sport event? Anyway you cannot influent it. Wouldn't it be much better and saving the time just to look for results after?
I'm not "managing" the teams on TV though...
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#15 posted Mar 18th 2016, 11:53:20
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Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 18th 2016,11:48:47 ) Quote ( Mark Barker @ March 18th 2016,11:47:44 )
As for time zones, totally agree, and would propose that if you could change strategies then the races would be run at the tracks local time, so each time zone would have some late night/early morning races as well as more convenient times.
Mark how would you organize that?
Most races start at 1pm local time (obviously excluding the night races!). So stick with that. When the race is in Australia etc then Europeans have a choice, get up in the middle of the night and play real time, or set a predefined strategy and hope.
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Quote ( Mark Barker @ March 18th 2016,11:37:32 ) I can't see the point of watching the race...
Here are some races no point to watch (like ovals). But majority is very interesting. Especially if you see and enjoy live how your strategy worked well, your calculations was perfect and pitstops good.
Bonus is if you are in active group with large number of people posting in forum. Reading the guys who are heavily blocked during the race is unbelievable fun. No matter you are blocker or not.
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#17 posted Mar 18th 2016, 11:56:35
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Quote ( Mark Barker @ March 18th 2016,11:53:20 ) Most races start at 1pm local time (obviously excluding the night races!). So stick with that. When the race is in Australia etc then Europeans have a choice, get up in the middle of the night and play real time, or set a predefined strategy and hope.
So if I don't get up at stupid-o'clock to do my best to think strategically while trying not to dribble on my laptop, I'll be worse off for a race?
No thanks. I have a life.
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#18 posted Mar 18th 2016, 11:56:48
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Quote ( Mark Barker @ March 18th 2016,11:53:20 ) Most races start at 1pm local time (obviously excluding the night races!). So stick with that. When the race is in Australia etc then Europeans have a choice, get up in the middle of the night and play real time, or set a predefined strategy and hope.
speaking for myself i have a day time job and honestly i can assure you i won't be getting up in the middle of the night just to check a race on an online game.
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It's never going to happen.
The game should not and will not ever give advantages to people that can happen to be online at race times (that's not even taking time zones in to account, some people are simply busy with jobs and family and real life so those that have more free time would be at an advantage). I'm sure many people would not be willing to plan their lives around an online game.
Furthermore, the full game engine would need to be redesigned to support such a change and, as is currently the case and don't see it changing, at least one admin is always about for the race in case of any issues. Can't see admins getting up at varying hours during the night and such like to run races.
And then there is the issue of time between races being impacted if race times are moved, which can have a massive factor on staff markets and time to test and qualify between races (especially if waiting for a staff decision first, as it can already be very tight).
Not everyone enjoys watching the races live (I rarely watch them and I know some that rarely miss them) but that's a personal choice.
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#20 posted Mar 18th 2016, 11:58:47
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Quote ( Kevin Parkinson @ March 18th 2016,11:57:18 ) It's never going to happen.
if the private races are ever introduced though, it would be an amazing option :-)
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#21 posted Mar 18th 2016, 12:01:58
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Quote ( Keri Lovell @ March 18th 2016,11:58:47 ) if the private races are ever introduced though, it would be an amazing option :-)
Yeah, I was obviously talking about the races as they are now. The private races certainly wouldn't have all the same negatives to adding such options so would be worth considering if your name was Vlad :)
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#22 posted Mar 18th 2016, 12:02:54
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Money spinner for sure :-)
Everyone likes money.
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#23 posted Mar 18th 2016, 12:03:25
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Quote ( Mark Barker @ March 18th 2016,11:53:20 ) Most races start at 1pm local time (obviously excluding the night races!). So stick with that. When the race is in Australia etc then Europeans have a choice, get up in the middle of the night and play real time, or set a predefined strategy and hope.
One of the problems is that the admins are from Europe.
Another one, is a complete rebuild of the race engine and a huge investment into new servers able to recalculate all the race online.
And last but not least, there are plenty of people playing this game because they don't have to be online during the race.
Like it or not, but I would say that such a change will never happen.
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#24 posted Mar 18th 2016, 12:06:21
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I find that without watching the races I miss out on: what everyone around me are doing, who are my main competitors throughout the race, what different kind of strategies worked during the race and which did not, how various competitors prefer to race, and a bunch of other stuff.
Don't always watch "live" though, if I miss it I check the replay afterwards though I do not get as much from that as the "live" version as I tend to skip forward too fast to actually reflect on the race.
But, each to theirs and I can understand and accept others both being more keen and less keen to watch it.
That also means not questioning "why" something exists.
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#25 posted Mar 18th 2016, 12:13:57
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Quote ( Vesa Ritvanen @ March 18th 2016,11:42:18 ) It is one of the most entertaining way to spend your friday evening!
I guess it's also a very entertaining way to spend your early Saturday morning for those of us on the other side of the world. :P
I don't really watch the races myself only because of the timing (3am start time here). There was a time where I would stay up to watch the races but even then the main reason was just to talk to my team-mates during the races, makes it more entertaining that way.
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#26 posted Mar 18th 2016, 12:14:22
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Quote ( Mark Barker @ March 18th 2016,11:53:20 ) Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 18th 2016,11:48:47 )
Quote ( Mark Barker @ March 18th 2016,11:47:44 )
As for time zones, totally agree, and would propose that if you could change strategies then the races would be run at the tracks local time, so each time zone would have some late night/early morning races as well as more convenient times.
Mark how would you organize that?
Most races start at 1pm local time (obviously excluding the night races!). So stick with that. When the race is in Australia etc then Europeans have a choice, get up in the middle of the night and play real time, or set a predefined strategy and hope.
If you want plug and play, try United GP on iPad, but you won't get 1/100th the challenge you get from this game.
At first, I hated watching the races prob the first 6-7 THEN when I started to GET the game (not that I am an expert, have a lot get still), started chatting with a few people during races, and reading others ideas on strats, etc, races became somewhat of an addiction and learning experience.
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#27 posted Mar 18th 2016, 12:33:19
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Quote ( Mason Somoza @ March 18th 2016,12:14:22 ) Quote ( Mark Barker @ March 18th 2016,11:53:20 )
Quote ( Jimmy De Roy @ March 18th 2016,11:48:47 )
Quote ( Mark Barker @ March 18th 2016,11:47:44 )
If you want plug and play, try United GP on iPad, but you won't get 1/100th the challenge you get from this game.
At first, I hated watching the races prob the first 6-7 THEN when I started to GET the game (not that I am an expert, have a lot get still), started chatting with a few people during races, and reading others ideas on strats, etc, races became somewhat of an addiction and learning experience.
Plug & play is the opposite to what I want! I like the challenge of learning a complex game, and whilst I fully accept I'm not going to take it as seriously as many on here, I would like to get to level where I'm consistently challenging for podiums etc.
But...
I suppose what I was expecting from the game was a little more interactivity and a more upto date feel, rather than something that looks like its developed from an old Spectrum game (I know, the clever stuff in the background would melt a hundred spectrums, but it doesn't feel that way).
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#28 posted Mar 18th 2016, 12:52:18
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I personally love watching the race play out. As Phil put it. It's 90-160 mins of pure torture. Maybe I'm a sadist as you usually know what the result will be due to temps/tyres anyway :)
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#29 posted Mar 18th 2016, 12:56:01
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Quote ( Michael Keeney @ March 18th 2016,12:52:18 )
I personally love watching the race play out. As Phil put it. It's 90-160 mins of pure torture. Maybe I'm a sadist as you usually know what the result will be due to temps/tyres anyway :)
Listening to Keano's commentary on Whats App, I can confirm the lad goes through absolute torture - pure dead brilliant :-)
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#30 posted Mar 18th 2016, 12:56:49
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Quote ( David Rolleston @ March 18th 2016,12:56:01 ) Listening to Keano's commentary on Whats App, I can confirm the lad goes through absolute torture - pure dead brilliant :-)
Live by the sword, die by the sword Rollo!
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