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Quote ( Jukka Sireni @ September 13th 2016,13:47:36 ) As said, I don't see a difference. If you want others to see your bid, why not send it instantly. If not, why not send it a second before deadline. I don't see any reason why you would like to make the bid visible early, but not already when you bid. So I can do nothing with it. Who can't see that can't see...
Edit: Maybe when private bids will be forbidden in higher classes you'll see a difference
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#32 posted Sep 13th 2016, 14:32:03
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Quote ( Mark Wright @ September 13th 2016,11:58:15 ) Of course there is but if you want your first market to bet held at a time that suits the 'Eastern side' of the world when the majority of players are from the other side that in itself gives and advantage. Vice versa would have the same effect obviously.
Yes that's why I suggested to hold markets at different times of the dayQuote ( John Henderson @ September 13th 2016,01:40:14 ) For example, What about:Wednesday morning at 10:00 CET and again Thursday at 22:00 CETSaturday at 08:000 CET and Monday at 20:00 CET
Could even randomly assign the market times before the season starts. BTW it suits me fine the way it is, I'm just supporting Rick's idea...I think he's got a good point.
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#33 posted Sep 13th 2016, 14:35:00
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So you have 9 hours time to bid in the Saturday market (and 11 in Wednesday)? Now you may miss the deadline bidding, but then you would miss the entire market.
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Quote ( Jukka Sireni @ September 13th 2016,14:35:00 ) Now you may miss the deadline bidding, but then you would miss the entire market.
That was an example...another example could be: Wednesday at 13:00 CET Friday at 01:00 CET Saturday at 16:00 CET Monday at 08:00 CET
The point is if you miss a market there's an extra one between each race And...that variable market times reduce the advantage of those in market friendly time zones.
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#35 posted Sep 13th 2016, 15:07:28
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Quote ( John Henderson @ September 13th 2016,14:52:41 ) That was an example...another example could be: Wednesday at 13:00 CET Friday at 01:00 CET Saturday at 16:00 CET Monday at 08:00 CET
The point is if you miss a market there's an extra one between each race And...that variable market times reduce the advantage of those in market friendly time zones.
That looks a bit better. But still, if you are after a specific driver in a specific market, it may create problems.
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#36 posted Sep 13th 2016, 15:11:11
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Quote ( Gersi Tolve @ September 13th 2016,13:59:29 ) Quote ( Rick Jansen @ September 12th 2016,22:03:55 )
Idea: At the moment the driver market only runs twice a week. This should be increase to everyday (except race days).
Motivation: Unfortanately I ended up missing promotion and losing my driver as result. Now I am in the bidding wars of rookie. I had the bad luck to lose the first round (and as such am still without driver). As a manager you want to leave this crap behind you and start planning your season.
Pro's: - If in need of a driver you do not have to wait 3 or 4 days before planning the rest of the season. This will motivate managers a lot more.
Con's: - Manager with less time may have troubles getting a driver.
My driver had Overall 79 with motivation it is 84. For my, he is a good driver because he is young. How many drivers can you find ? I am not an expert.By the way, those old guys who answered you know 1000000 times more than me.
Well for one because your driver has 84 motivation and he is young, doesn't mean he is a good driver!! He might be, who knows, but doesn't mean he is!!!
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#37 posted Sep 13th 2016, 20:19:52
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Another option to improve the flow on the market is to simply start a countdown of 24hours after the first bid. Within 24 hours you know if your bid is accepted.
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#38 posted Sep 13th 2016, 20:31:42
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I doubt that could work with more than 1 offer per manager. And if you can place only 1 offer, you are in far greater risk of getting no driver.
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#39 posted Sep 13th 2016, 20:39:27
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I agree since I promoted to Ama now.. its insane the amount of offers on drivers. I was outbid on 4 different drivers.. and we are talking alot of cash - (looking at the average people pay in ama group)
I would imagine the faster you promote through the ranks the easier it is to get a driver because you dont have hordes of people trying to get drivers!
Furthermore with the next staff decision coming up I dont want to lose out on not doing every race in AMA.. I had to put in some ridiculous offers to be assured I'll at least get a driver.. I'm with Rick.. I would perhaps suggest this
"once season reset occurs staff decisions are daily." there after it can stay as it is..
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#40 posted Sep 13th 2016, 20:40:57
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The current system works. It gives enough time between markets to offset any issues with the exact timing. Most issues raised with the driver market seem to relate to people not really using it to it's fullest or understanding what they really need in a driver, especially in Rookie. There is no need for a quick fix when things aren't broken.
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#41 posted Sep 13th 2016, 20:46:04
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You think it is okay to force people to wait 72 hours with no guarantee they end up with a reasonable driver.
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#42 posted Sep 13th 2016, 20:46:50
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Quote ( Rick Jansen @ September 13th 2016,20:46:04 ) You think it is okay to force people to wait 72 hours with no guarantee they end up with a reasonable driver.
He's a monster.
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#43 posted Sep 13th 2016, 20:48:29
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it should be once per week i think, but i also think that everyone that is reset should be auto given a random driver to start with, even if its from the bad pile, this would mean that should we miss a couple of days we can still make race 1 of a new season.
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#44 posted Sep 13th 2016, 20:52:56
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Dan - if you don't get a driver before ANY race, you can always sign a random driver on a 1 race contract - so never any excuse to miss a race because of that...
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#45 posted Sep 13th 2016, 20:55:46
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One messed up race can be the difference between winning promotion or not. So being forced to do the first race with a terible driver can be the end of your season.
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#46 posted Sep 13th 2016, 20:56:23
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yes you can but that means you may as well miss that race as the driver is so bad you finish at the back,lol
giving random drivers out would add a bit of fun to a reset, and maybe offer new players a little bit of excitment as they may get a good driver.
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#47 posted Sep 13th 2016, 20:58:35
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the biggest thing for me as a rookie is the advantage the relegated players have over us, many get set up from team mates and have been told ehat makes a good driver.
so how about a little help for the rookies, maybe hold our hands for a few races early on and kepp us all season rather than make us finish last and leave the game,lol
look at numbers of active racers, perhaps a little newbie help would keep more......i dunno just spouting i guess as i hate having to sign a driver against ppl with millions more than me,lol
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#48 posted Sep 13th 2016, 20:59:18
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Quote ( Raymond Botha @ September 13th 2016,20:39:27 ) I agree since I promoted to Ama now.. its insane the amount of offers on drivers. I was outbid on 4 different drivers.. and we are talking alot of cash - (looking at the average people pay in ama group)
I would imagine the faster you promote through the ranks the easier it is to get a driver because you dont have hordes of people trying to get drivers!
Furthermore with the next staff decision coming up I dont want to lose out on not doing every race in AMA.. I had to put in some ridiculous offers to be assured I'll at least get a driver.. I'm with Rick.. I would perhaps suggest this
"once season reset occurs staff decisions are daily." there after it can stay as it is..
You don't have to get your forever driver from race 1. The market gets less competitive after a few races, and generally you're better served having a contract renew 3-5 races into a season rather than at end of season anyway. Not saying the system can't be improved, but I don't think more staff decisions with largely the same pool of drivers will do it.
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#49 posted Sep 13th 2016, 21:01:24
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Quote ( Dan Tyler @ September 13th 2016,20:58:35 ) i dunno just spouting i guess as i hate having to sign a driver against ppl with millions more than me,lol
You're in rookie - everyone starts with the same money, whether they have relegated or are brand new (exception is that anyone who did all 17 races the previous season has 5m more)
But money is not an issue in rookie......unless somehow you waste 20m before race 1......
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#50 posted Sep 13th 2016, 21:10:25
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oh i do, i have seen the last few races the guys that beat me are the ones with better level cars.
there may be more to it than that but one had a level 4 car and 20 million, not sure how he did that to be honest?
he got promoted easily.
of the 6 races last season i did cars beat me that were higher levels so this season im blowing my cash and building my car up,lol
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#51 posted Sep 13th 2016, 21:15:49
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You are going to go broke.
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#52 posted Sep 13th 2016, 21:18:50
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Quote ( Dan Tyler @ September 13th 2016,21:10:25 ) oh i do, i have seen the last few races the guys that beat me are the ones with better level cars.
there may be more to it than that but one had a level 4 car and 20 million, not sure how he did that to be honest? He had a faster driver, used lower risks, won more prize money and spent his money more carefully, allowing him to get a better level car. Certainly didn't upgrade his car before race 1.
I'd expect the higher level car was a result of him being quicker than you through the season, more than the cause.
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#53 posted Sep 13th 2016, 21:37:51
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Quote ( Rick Jansen @ September 13th 2016,20:55:46 ) One messed up race can be the difference between winning promotion or not. So being forced to do the first race with a terible driver can be the end of your season. But if you're looking to promote with a driver you haven't yet secured, you probably haven't chosen the best driver strategy. ;)
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#54 posted Sep 14th 2016, 19:07:31
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Quote ( Rick Jansen @ September 13th 2016,20:55:46 ) One messed up race can be the difference between winning promotion or not. In Rookie it really isn't. You could probably start half way through the season and still get promoted!
Quote ( Dan Tyler @ September 13th 2016,20:58:35 ) the biggest thing for me as a rookie is the advantage the relegated players have over us, many get set up from team mates and have been told ehat makes a good driver. You've been around 180 races...you really should know the limited stats that make for a good Rookie driver! Relegators have no cash or car advantage whatsoever many will have less experience than you.
Quote ( Dan Tyler @ September 13th 2016,21:10:25 ) oh i do, i have seen the last few races the guys that beat me are the ones with better level cars.
there may be more to it than that but one had a level 4 car and 20 million, not sure how he did that...
Easily...I think the last time I promoted from Rookie was with a Level 5 car and over $57mil.......and I'm a really crap manager :D
Quote ( Max Watson @ September 13th 2016,20:46:50 ) Quote ( Rick Jansen @ September 13th 2016,20:46:04 )
You think it is okay to force people to wait 72 hours with no guarantee they end up with a reasonable driver.
He's a monster. I am, although as you get 8 attempts at signing a driver before the first race, it shouldn't be that hard to get a driver who gives you a good chance?
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Quote ( Jukka Sireni @ September 13th 2016,15:07:28 ) Quote ( John Henderson @ September 13th 2016,14:52:41 )
That was an example...another example could be: Wednesday at 13:00 CET Friday at 01:00 CET Saturday at 16:00 CET Monday at 08:00 CET
The point is if you miss a market there's an extra one between each race And...that variable market times reduce the advantage of those in market friendly time zones.
That looks a bit better. But still, if you are after a specific driver in a specific market, it may create problems. The problem is if I have a limitation of 4 offers for the driver's market and when the time comes, each one has ten offers without which I can do nothing but resign myself to lose everything or cancel offers to hire a driver without conditions, at least the restart of the season should be contemplated more days to hire drivers
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You just need to be more competitive in your offers.
If you are going without a driver it's because you aren't offering enough... simple as that.
It's a free market, as such there is a competitive nature to it.
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