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#1 posted Jul 30th 2017, 15:58:16
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Robert Kubica is coming??????
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#2 posted Jul 30th 2017, 16:00:28
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He is doing the testing next week for Renault, doubt he will come back full time.
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#3 posted Jul 30th 2017, 16:09:25
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"Jolyon, Nico is faster than you".
I think Robert will race before the end of the year even.
There you go Sam, you asked for it :)
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#4 posted Jul 30th 2017, 16:11:51
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Quote ( Tony Lamb @ July 30th 2017,16:00:28 ) He is doing the testing next week for Renault, doubt he will come back full time.
Robert is very realistic even pesimist to yourself. And if he said that there is 90% chance he will return - I won't be surprised if he has already contract with Renault on 2018
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#5 posted Jul 30th 2017, 16:14:56
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It's pretty sure he will be back but not so sure if this season.
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#6 posted Jul 30th 2017, 16:23:34
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The fact that Hulk was let past by Palmer around lap 20 for being slow, then 20 laps later he came into the pits, had a really bad stop, and still rejoined 16 seconds ahead of Palmer before Palmer even made his stop, says it all really.
I'm with Stuart. I can't see Palmer making the rest of the season. I just hope they give Kubica time to get prepared for a return before rushing him into a car.
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#7 posted Jul 30th 2017, 16:34:12
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Quote ( Stuart Foster @ July 30th 2017,16:09:25 ) "Jolyon, Nico is faster than you".
I think Robert will race before the end of the year even.
There you go Sam, you asked for it :)
Thanks. Palmer needs to be replaced.
Quote ( Elod Kun @ July 30th 2017,15:58:16 ) Robert Kubica is coming??????
The phrasing of this made me chuckle.
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#8 posted Jul 30th 2017, 16:38:43
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I think Joylon will be suffering from dejectile dysfunction after the break when he's replaced. :)
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Thing is, I don't think we're even being unkind on Jolyon. I mean, lets face it, if it wasn't for him ,they'd be 5th in the constructors if even the #2 Renault car had 16 points. Nico has more than that so it's perfectly reasonable that Renault coulda woulda shoula be 5th. If they had a driver that wasn't so slow and blamed the equipment or the team the whole time. Or that other time when he said "the pace wasn't there"..even though he felt good about the car. Hmm....if ever there was a note to self that he was the actual problem then that was it.
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#10 posted Jul 30th 2017, 16:46:19
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#11 posted Jul 30th 2017, 17:14:49
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Back when Maldonado was driving everyone was whining about the fact that Palmer wasn't given a chance. Now we're here.
On another note: I would like it if Kubica returned to F1.
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#12 posted Jul 30th 2017, 20:24:26
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I'm hoping that Robert Kubica comes back.. Really enjoyed his driving before. He was one of my favourite drivers.
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#13 posted Jul 30th 2017, 20:34:38
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#14 posted Jul 30th 2017, 21:06:52
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this is news no.1 in Poland, even 5th place our national football team in fifa ranking is not so important. we all waiting for wednesday :D
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#15 posted Jul 30th 2017, 21:20:24
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The problem with Renault is that Palmer has financing, if Palmer is out, some of the financial support which came with him, will be out, that's why Renault is draging this so long, if they are going to give up financial support which Palmer brings, it has to be worth it.
There are rumors that Palmer has a seat till the end of the season, but after this weekend in which he managed to break his car twice in 1st and 2nd practice sessions and then didin't even managed to get into top 10 in qualification ... just makes you wonder will we see him after summer break, on the 2nd half of the season.
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Palmer senior pay 6mln eur per season, bonus for 5th place is 30 mln eur but for 7 place only 19 mln eur. So calculate is simple, renault needs second scoring driver
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#17 posted Jul 30th 2017, 22:18:12
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If we don't count paychecks for placings, yes, but who knows how many millions Palmer brings to the team himself. It might be, that Palmer is not even being payed by Renault, but his sponsors are paying him, so free driver, who would not like to have that.
P.S. Bottas is driving for free in mercedes too, he brings alot of financial support too.
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#18 posted Jul 30th 2017, 22:21:02
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Will he win a race ?
Doubt it because Renault will never have a good car.
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Quote ( Jensen Owens @ July 30th 2017,22:21:02 ) Will he win a race ?
Doubt it because Renault will never have a good car.
Really ? I remember the days when Lotus was wining races with Renault engines ... if they s*** now, that dosin't mean they can't get back up. It's just other teams are way ahead now.
As for Palmer wining a race, it's possible, but not in F1.
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#20 posted Jul 30th 2017, 22:33:45
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Quote ( Dainius Vaškys @ July 30th 2017,22:25:42 ) As for Palmer wining a race, it's possible, but not in F1
I doubt if he even wins the race to the bathroom in the mornings, he's probably not even the fastest driver in his house!
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#21 posted Jul 30th 2017, 22:35:23
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A Renault get past a RedBull NO
A Renault get past a Ferrari F NO
A Renault get past a Merc 10000000000000000000000% F NO
Its the same for the rest of the teams
These 3 are your really F1 teams the rest are just there to make up the numbers and bring new talent in IMO
Its just how it feels to me
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#22 posted Jul 30th 2017, 23:03:42
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Quote ( Paul Bright @ July 30th 2017,22:33:45 ) Quote ( Dainius Vaškys @ July 30th 2017,22:25:42 )
As for Palmer wining a race, it's possible, but not in F1
I doubt if he even wins the race to the bathroom in the mornings, he's probably not even the fastest driver in his house!
His brother is quite decent tbf.
Renault say they are gonna invest a lot, but I agree with Jensen really. Seeing Kubica back would still be brilliant though.
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#23 posted Jul 30th 2017, 23:28:44
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Quote ( Adrian Moren @ July 30th 2017,21:06:52 ) this is news no.1 in Poland, even 5th place our national football team in fifa ranking is not so important. we all waiting for wednesday :D
Now, the real question is how is Poland F 5th!?!??!?!?! I mean you have Lewandowski, but still, you need more than that...
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I think the thing I least like about F1 now is, at least in ~2012 we had a guy in Maldonado who not only had the balls to put Hamilton out of a race (races?), but reasonable enough equipment to drive in a straight line as fast as him to do the job. I'm kinda fed up with all this horsepower difference, dunno bout anyone else. Trouble is things won't change soon enough either, sad to say.
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Well the horsepower difference is what is so interesting about this sport. If everyone was in the same car that wouldn't be F1. F1 has always been about making the car faster by the team to win races (More horsepower and better chassie) you could say that FIA is kinda killing the sport by all the regulations (Not allowing to burn oil in the engines (to make Ferrari slower) is basicly not allowing the teams to move forward and make the cars faster). The teams should have more freedome about what they do on the cars, but then again, I'm only 17 so who even cares what I think. I barely even remember the F1 without DRS.
When you think about it, every car has KRS today (ERS, KERS, what ever is the name this year), but invented because teams needed to create new things to make the car faster (I think it was invented by McLaren, didn't check the fact) or you could remember the system that Williams had when Prost won his 4th title in 1993. The point of the sport was and should be (if you ask me) to make the car faster, if that means putting 5 tyres on the car then do it, I don't see what is the problem.
And only 1 brand of tyres (Pirelli) I mean why not have more brands like before. Let the teams decide what they do to the car. I mean what difference does it make if Ferrari burn oil in the engine or not? Or how the wing looks on Red Bull. Let them hame V12 engines. I mean if you are regulating everything in F1, then you are destroying F1's DNA, and that isn't F1 anymore. I mean if you want hive all the drivers the same car so we can see who is the fastest, but that won't be F1 anymore, that would be something else.
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#26 posted Jul 31st 2017, 00:19:22
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Its easy to make the sport interesting.
Max BHP 1000 - Do what yeah like to get it V8 V10 V12 turbo
1 wing design for the season front and back
As long as the above passes crash test's yeah good to go
Pretty simple.
But we have to be green save the world etc
So it's never going to happen.
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#27 posted Jul 31st 2017, 00:26:29
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Seb is always talking about the V12 and V10 and how he wants them to come back...
I mean the world will die sooner or later, why not make it interesting at least.
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#28 posted Jul 31st 2017, 00:27:47
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Quote ( Jensen Owens @ July 31st 2017,00:19:22 ) we have to be green save the world etc
We could argue I suppose that Formula E is doing that.
Everyone on different power units wouldn't be F1 anymore either.
I don't know any solution. Maybe Formula E becomes F1 and that leaves a space to fill a void for another formula to exist? But the big question then is would Ferrari want to continue to support it. Formula E kinda has to replace F1 eventually (or the series merge together) since there won't be fuel burning cars in most western countries in 2040.
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#29 posted Jul 31st 2017, 00:30:26
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The names that are going to Formula E is amazing. I don't think it'll be long before they attract some top drivers. Audi, Renault, BMW, Jaguar, Porsche, Mercedes, and rumours Alfa Romeo/Maserati could join too.
It's a shame the cars make that bloody squeeky noise that annoys the hell out of me.
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#30 posted Jul 31st 2017, 00:40:49
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back on Palmer.
Cyril Abbeiteboul was talking more than candidly recently about him. Like, litereally saying they need to be hunting in and around P6 and P7 with the package they've got. Seemed like he was more or less saying that the final straw was looming on Palmer and that he needs to start performing NOW. He didn't say that exactly, and what was interesting that at the same time he was playing down questions about Kubica making a definite come back (which was probably to take any pressure off Kubica I expect with the pending test coming up). But it was clear the message he was trying to get across...start performing or we've got other options Jo. I reckon Spa and Monza will be Jo's last races, and that Renault probably will make a decision definitely after this Hungary test. And I expect Jo will only be extended til Singapore because of the high demands there...from Malaysia onward I think we may see another driver behind the wheel for the last 6 races.
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