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What rating should I keep my young driver below or at? So I can keep him for next season.
I am competing in rookie at the moment and have positive finances
Thanks
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#2 posted Jul 16th 2018, 16:49:31
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Your driver's OA should be below 85 after the last race.
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#3 posted Jul 16th 2018, 16:49:33
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Quote ( Matthew Knowles @ July 16th 2018,16:44:05 ) What rating should I keep my young driver below so I can keep him for next season.
Below 85 if you are staying in rookie and no more of 110 if promoting to amateur
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#4 posted Jul 16th 2018, 16:49:44
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Managers in Rookie groups cannot offer contracts to drivers with overall higher than 85
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#5 posted Jul 16th 2018, 16:50:41
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#6 posted Jul 16th 2018, 16:52:11
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You will have to keep the overall/rating below or equal to 85 BEFORE the season reset occurs. There are certain changes that occur to driver stats during the reset and even then the overall should stay below 85. Best way to be sure of this is to keep driver motivation at 0 by going deep into negative before the last race such that you are below -15 mil even after the last race. I think you should start splurging because the money is also rest ;)
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#7 posted Jul 16th 2018, 17:32:18
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First question would be if you have extended the contract yet.
Have you extended the contract yet?
If you have not then do so.
Then make sure his OA stays equal to or below 85 after the last race of the season is finished, so even if you have it at 85 before the race and he gets a motivational boost from the last race and exceeds 85 OA due to that he will not be kept past the season reset.
There are ways to manage the OA in Rookie when being certain of staying in Rookie as everything except an under 86OA driver is reset for the next season. Yug Desai has touched upon how to do that.
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Quote ( Felipe Bello @ July 16th 2018,16:49:33 ) and no more of 110 if promoting to amateur That's incorrect Felipe, OA limits at Amateur and higher divisions only matter when signing or extending contracts and when you relegate to a lower division.
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#9 posted Jul 17th 2018, 12:40:20
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To summarise, to keep a driver while remaining in Rookie over the season break, so you are reset, the OA must be 85 or less at the end of the season AND he must be under contract. If the contract expires after race 17 and you haven't signed an extension already, he will leave regardless of OA.
To sign an extension while in Rookie, his OA must be 85 or less when you offer the contract (assuming you have a positive balance).
As correctly pointed out by Willem, apart from during the Rookie reset, so at higher levels, the OA limits only apply when signing or extending a contract, or when relegating to a lower division. As such, you can have drivers with OAs higher than the "limit" for that level, but you wouldn't be able to sign an extension if that was the case.
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#10 posted Jul 31st 2018, 11:19:09
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So, I've done the mistake to train my driver, not realizing I got the new driver i gave an offer yesterday.
This pushed his OA to 86, with two races to go.
I've been looking over the rules and FAQ and I can't find a way to keep the driver next season.
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If your driver has some motivation then you can reduce his OA by losing that motivation.
Having bad results can help to achieve this.
It is also possible to remove all motivation by manipulating your money balance. Rule 5.5 says in part
Besides, if your balance is less than $-15.000.000:
• Your driver and staff motivation will drop to 0
to use this technique your balance must be -$15million or more after the end of the last race.
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#12 posted Jul 31st 2018, 11:25:59
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Go -$23 million before the last race. That way your driver will drop to zero motivation and lose OA. You only need to be -$15 million to achieve this but you need to allow for earnings in the last race. That is why I have advised more.
Good luck
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#13 posted Jul 31st 2018, 11:29:40
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The driver has 77 in Motivation. Do you reckon I can get him to lose motivation in two races enough to get down 1 point in OA?
So I just get myself in massive debt this week and I keep him?
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#14 posted Jul 31st 2018, 11:34:59
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As Andrew and I said, your balance must be AT LEAST -$15million after the last race, so get sufficiently negative to compensate for any money that you may earn in the last race and all should be good.
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I am not meant to give exact figures in the forum
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I can assure you losing 77 motivation by going deep negative will be more than enough to lose the OA you require to keep your driver next season. Assuming he is still under contract.
Edit; his lack of experience for his age worries me though, to know if he is worthwhile keeping.
If you need driver advice, feel free to send me a PM.
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tbh, one terrible race should be enough... probably. a pit stop every 10 laps. Then re-sign the driver and his OA won't matter and you won't be neg in money for the start of new season
1 OA loss should be possible. And if not, you still have time to go neg after the race as a back up plan. :)
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Quote ( Kirsty Ridley @ July 31st 2018,11:58:34 ) tbh, one terrible race should be enough... probably. a pit stop every 10 laps. Then re-sign the driver and his OA won't matter and you won't be neg in money for the start of new season
1 OA loss should be possible. And if not, you still have time to go neg after the race as a back up plan. :)
But he is staying in Rookie anyway so the care factor is zero when it comes to cash at the end of this season, due to the Rookie reset, and starting fresh .
Why risk it when there is an easier option? ??
Just go deep negative Mate , don't listen to Krusty 😆
Cheers
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#18 posted Jul 31st 2018, 12:12:06
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yeah, spose, but its nicer to learn how much moti drop 1 OA, and get some useful info. But true, money makes no diff.
Just seems extreme, and teaches nothing about OA gains/losses doing it that way.
Same outcome, Andrews/Grahams way is probably easier, but will be no use in the future when it really matters. Although this may stop you ever making that mistake again anyway lol.
Good luck Vilijam
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#19 posted Jul 31st 2018, 12:27:34
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Thanks for the help guys. I'll try to fall into massive debt come tomorrow then. :)
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#20 posted Jul 31st 2018, 12:39:43
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Quote ( Kirsty Ridley @ July 31st 2018,11:58:34 ) tbh, one terrible race should be enough... probably. a pit stop every 10 laps. Then re-sign the driver and his OA won't matter and you won't be neg in money for the start of new season
His group only have 12-13 cars racing, so dropping motivation like this is pretty much impossible.
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#21 posted Jul 31st 2018, 12:52:01
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Quote ( Kirsty Ridley @ July 31st 2018,11:58:34 ) Then re-sign the driver and his OA won't matter and you won't be neg in money for the start of new season
Having the driver under contract means nothing at the rookie reset if the OA is higher than 85.
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#22 posted Jul 31st 2018, 13:35:35
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Quote ( Kirsty Ridley @ July 31st 2018,12:12:06 ) yeah, spose, but its nicer to learn how much moti drop 1 OA, and get some useful info.
Going negative, he'll learn how much OA 77 moti loses though. Gets the same information, and actually more detailed as the bigger drop gives a smaller window for the exact figure. ;)
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#23 posted Jul 31st 2018, 15:00:11
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True, and a bad race could gain agg, so data wouldn't be true anyway.
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So, an update.
I maxed all the expenses as I could, but only got down to -10m.
I guess I just made things worse now. :P
Oh, and my drivers motivation was raised by the race last night. ;)
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It's not too late yet, there are more ways of spending money....
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Spend money on other ways first, and some other afterwards :) hint: start with the least expensive, get balance slightly above zero, and then kick in the most expensive ones :)
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Quote ( Vilijam Rigo @ August 1st 2018,09:35:55 ) So, an update.
I maxed all the expenses as I could, but only got down to -10m.
I guess I just made things worse now. :P
Oh, and my drivers motivation was raised by the race last night. ;)
OK so you have made a mistake with the maths.
Bid on crap drivers then cancel the offers. You can do this for four drivers at once. Simply repeat it until you are in dept enough. It may be boring but it works as you will waste $2 million each time. 😊
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A related question (I hope its ok to ask here, I dont think is worth starting a new thread): Im now in Amateur, where according to the rules the OA limit is 110. My driver has 99 OA
What happens when his OA goes above 110?
I did noticed that on my group there are several managers with > 110 OA drivers. Does that means you can keep drivers with OA higher than 110, you just cant hire a new one that already has > 110 OA?
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Pretty much Mate, yes you answered your own question.
You only need to abide by the 110 OA limit when you want/need to extend the driver contract or hire a new one.
You need to learn the effect of motivation on drivers OA to control a long term plan driver.
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