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#31 posted Jun 10th 2020, 19:51:06
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Quote ( Max Watson @ June 10th 2020,19:44:07 ) A flower being added to something I find suggestive of an insignia or coat of arms. [/random thoughts]
Or a country that was named after some European ruler upon being colonized, had a flower added to its name, and was later renamed to something entirely different (like Rhodesia - Zimbabwe).
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#32 posted Jun 10th 2020, 19:54:39
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Quote ( Nate Lung @ June 10th 2020,19:47:16 ) He's been found innocent of murdering himself?
There were other charges. Not that.
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#33 posted Jun 10th 2020, 19:59:34
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Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ June 10th 2020,16:19:31 ) ***One of his relatives who was also a ruler/emperor, died from gluttony
I found a list of nine names here. Not all, but several were rulers of some kind. I already trickled down the road of Henry I (british /French link) and Adolf Frederick (Swedish/Prussian/Russian link) but not much luck on anything else linking to the clues:
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/88937/9-famous-people-su....
Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ June 10th 2020,16:19:31 ) ***The guy who committed the suicide, has been found innocent from all charges against him
Is there anything stated of the charges made against this poor soul?
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#34 posted Jun 10th 2020, 20:04:10
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Quote ( Niels Van Heijster @ June 10th 2020,19:59:34 ) Adolf Frederick
Uncle of Catherine the Great of Russia (father was Catherine's grandfather)
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#35 posted Jun 10th 2020, 20:08:01
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Quote ( Nate Lung @ June 10th 2020,20:04:10 ) Uncle of Catherine the Great of Russia (father was Catherine's grandfather)
It is specifically a male, according to the clues, so it can't be her
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#36 posted Jun 10th 2020, 20:09:12
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Quote ( Max Watson @ June 10th 2020,19:44:07 ) A flower being added to something I find suggestive of an insignia or coat of arms. [/random thoughts]
Or a painting....though that search didn't really lead me anywhere. Do coats of arms have someone responsible for them anyway?
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#37 posted Jun 10th 2020, 20:10:46 (last edited Jun 10th 2020, 20:11:22 by Nate Lung)
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Quote ( Jun Ho @ June 10th 2020,20:08:01 ) It is specifically a male, according to the clues, so it can't be her
I know :) Just making connections to other people who might provide more places/family trees to explore.
And about the flower, as far as I know, the "rose" for York and Lancaster were not really "added" at any time were they?
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Quote ( Nate Lung @ June 10th 2020,20:04:10 ) Quote ( Niels Van Heijster @ June 10th 2020,19:59:34 )
Adolf Frederick
Uncle of Catherine the Great of Russia (father was Catherine's grandfather)
Peter the Great is also in that thread of links, as is Frederick the Great and many more ...
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#39 posted Jun 10th 2020, 22:12:35
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So was the relative younger or older than the actual person? Or do we no what kind of kinship were between them?
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#40 posted Jun 10th 2020, 23:14:02
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What kind of charges made against the guy who committed suicide, weren't given.
I said he/his while talking about the emperor in the first clue but there is no indication of gender. I just put it that way, if its a femal then my bad.
We don't if the relative who died from gluttony was younger or older and we don't know what was the relation between them.
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#41 posted Jun 10th 2020, 23:15:01
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There has been a new clue in the last hours;
***The guy who committed the suicide was a general in the military.
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#42 posted Jun 10th 2020, 23:29:49 (last edited Jun 10th 2020, 23:31:28 by Geir Pukk)
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If I'm not mistaken this might have something to do with Nero, who was related to Claudius, who died from gluttony and who commited suicide and was commited innocent afterwards
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#43 posted Jun 10th 2020, 23:32:09
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It's not a towns/city, it's a historical building :)
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#44 posted Jun 10th 2020, 23:39:45
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If it has something to do with what I said, then it seems that I won't be the one finding it, because I actually have no idea what to write inGoogle anymore
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#45 posted Jun 10th 2020, 23:45:59
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Quote ( Geir Pukk @ June 10th 2020,23:29:49 ) If I'm not mistaken this might have something to do with Nero, who was related to Claudius, who died from gluttony and who commited suicide and was commited innocent afterwards
Suicide by gluttony? :)
I'm reading up on Claudius and found that he was most likely poisoned, and he was Nero's father by adoption. So those parts of the hints check out. There has been more than one Claudius though, maybe you were referring to a different one?
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#46 posted Jun 10th 2020, 23:50:54
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Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ June 10th 2020,16:19:31 ) The guy who committed the suicide, has been found innocent from all charges against him I don't think this applies to Nero though.
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#47 posted Jun 10th 2020, 23:53:16 (last edited Jun 10th 2020, 23:55:14 by Geir Pukk)
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Quote ( Jasper Coosemans @ June 10th 2020,23:45:59 ) uicide by gluttony? :)
I'm reading up on Claudius and found that he was most likely poisoned, and he was Nero's father by adoption. So those parts of the hints check out. There has been more than one Claudius though, maybe you were referring to a different one?
My wording was off a bit there sorry :)
I was referring to the same one as you're talking about as well. But referring to adoption as relation and poisoning by food(which isn't 100% known as well) as gluttony is a very far fetch. Have no idea if we can even count that
Quote ( Ania Piekarska @ June 10th 2020,23:50:54 ) I don't think this applies to Nero though.
Now that I read up more about it, that actually also seems to be the case...Google kind of fooled me there.
This problem is quite crazy and I don't know how I can go to sleep without finding the solution hehe
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#48 posted Jun 11th 2020, 00:09:05
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Its been around 13 days since the Q came up so feel free to rest for a while :D
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#49 posted Jun 11th 2020, 00:12:06
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Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ June 11th 2020,00:09:05 ) Its been around 13 days since the Q came up so feel free to rest for a while :D
perhaps the answer is a bed, floral covers perhaps.
I’m still not entirely convinced this is an actual competition, instead just confusing everyone.
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#50 posted Jun 11th 2020, 00:14:50 (last edited Jun 11th 2020, 00:15:01 by Geir Pukk)
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Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ June 11th 2020,00:09:05 ) Its been around 13 days since the Q came up so feel free to rest for a while :D
How often does a new clue appear?
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#51 posted Jun 11th 2020, 00:34:10
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Thanks for ruining my day Ahmet. Is this a new way to get into the minds of competition? :)
Seriously, this question is bugging me and I need to know the answer :P
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#52 posted Jun 11th 2020, 00:38:27
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Quote ( Ahmet Sonverdi @ June 10th 2020,23:15:01 ) ***The guy who was in charge/responsible of/for that 'thing' committed a suicide
***The guy who committed the suicide, has been found innocent from all charges against him
***The guy who committed the suicide was a general in the military.
I found a German general, Johannes Blaskowitz, who committed suicide and was later acquitted during the Nuremberg Trials.
Maybe he oversaw some military operation that was initially named after some ruler/emperor from a wholly different historical era and then had a flower added to the name, I don't know. I didn't find anything. There is probably more than one general who fits the hints (suicide and acquitted)...
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#53 posted Jun 11th 2020, 00:45:12 (last edited Jun 11th 2020, 00:59:02 by Geir Pukk)
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I just realized that I've been approaching this the wrong way for a while...
Didn't think that the one who it was named after, was difderent from the one that was in charge...it's difficult being dumb sometimes :D
Well there's some time wasted, off to try a different angle :)
E: I bet the answer is going to be something really simple in the end, but I can't figure it out today. Wish everyone trying the best of luck!
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#54 posted Jun 11th 2020, 02:04:48
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Just reading this thread is a lesson in History. Thanks, Ahmet :)
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#55 posted Jun 11th 2020, 04:03:51
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Yes, maybe this contest is an elaborate scheme to get people to study history!
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#56 posted Jun 11th 2020, 09:19:53
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Quote ( Geir Pukk @ June 11th 2020,00:14:50 ) How often does a new clue appear?
Q comes with 4 clues, then a new clue gets released every 2-3 days. Until someone finds the answer.
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I'm currently thinking in the direction of Hong Kong, that used to have a flag with a flower before Hong Kong was handed over to China after British rule.
Still have to link the gluttony and Mr. General suicide to it.
The Thing's official name would then be:
"regional flag of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China"
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#58 posted Jun 11th 2020, 10:33:33
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Quote ( Thijs Rieken @ June 11th 2020,10:26:05 )
I'm currently thinking in the direction of Hong Kong, that used to have a flag with a flower before Hong Kong was handed over to China after British rule.
Still have to link the gluttony and Mr. General suicide to it.
The Thing's official name would then be:
"regional flag of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China"
But we never had a proper ruler/emperor unless you count the Queen of England.
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#59 posted Jun 11th 2020, 11:28:15
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Aye, that is a problem too.
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#60 posted Jun 11th 2020, 17:46:48
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Been through almost the whole family tree of British kings and queens since 1000AD. Found 1,5 references to a flower being introduced, but couldn't find a name to a general involved, let alone this bugger having committed suicide ... -_-
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