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#1 posted Sep 1st 2020, 23:33:00
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I have recently returned to the game, and took a driver to rise with him next season from rookie, but I am having a problem now, I can't seem to lower his motivation, it keeps rising.
I have been butchering races for 3 races in a row :
- The first on made him lose around 5-6 in motivation
- I saw that a good starting position and finishing last would make the drop higher, so I made him start from pole and butchered the race, finishing way last, but he won 16 points !
- This last race I made him start last again, and finished ten laps down, 27 minutes late, while reverting my car to level 1 and getting into 10 millions in debt, but this time he gained 29 points !
The only conhjectures I could make would be that the pole outclassed the lost positions in the second race, and that the spent money made him forget about the crushing debt, perhaps sponsor negotiations had an impact ?
I am really lost, and would very much appreciate any hint on what I maybe shouldn't have done
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#2 posted Sep 1st 2020, 23:38:18
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Did you train your driver in between these races at all...?
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#3 posted Sep 1st 2020, 23:39:40
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Drivers like shiny new parts.
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Quote ( Erwan Tassin @ September 1st 2020,23:33:00 ) but I am having a problem now, I can't seem to lower his motivation, it keeps rising.
The thing you might consider is that it may be near impossible to lower motivation in rookie by "conventional means".
The drivers can get motivated simply by having the chance to race :)
and also one reason being that there isn't enough "bad results" to be had. With only ~16 participants, you can not be 40th.
Quote ( Erwan Tassin @ September 1st 2020,23:33:00 ) and getting into 10 millions in debt
According to rules if you go 15 million (or more) then the drivers motivation goes directly to 0 (at qualify deadline)
That may be a way for you to go, but you need to time it right (in terms of season (before which race))
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#5 posted Sep 1st 2020, 23:42:02 (last edited Sep 1st 2020, 23:43:21 by Daryl Gee)
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Rookie drivers are very easily excited.
They're also greedy.
Just go broke.
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#6 posted Sep 1st 2020, 23:56:50
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Unfortunately I am still 5 million in debt, I will only have 1 race, I need a really good result to barely pull me out and then go all in on next level parts I guess, but I am not sure it will be possible.
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#7 posted Sep 1st 2020, 23:58:02
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Quote ( Jonathan Beagles @ September 1st 2020,23:38:18 ) Did you train your driver in between these races at all...?
I did, does it also impact motivation gain ? I know I can make my driver lose some by doing fitness but I don't know if it actually makes it rise on the long run
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#8 posted Sep 2nd 2020, 00:16:53
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Quote ( Erwan Tassin @ September 1st 2020,23:58:02 ) I did, does it also impact motivation gain ? I know I can make my driver lose some by doing fitness but I don't know if it actually makes it rise on the long run
You should see the results of training immediately - so if you observed that change, it's not that. It's more likely, as Mikko says:
Quote ( Mikko Heikkinen @ September 1st 2020,23:41:46 ) there isn't enough "bad results" to be had. With only ~16 participants, you can not be 40th.
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#9 posted Sep 2nd 2020, 02:07:34
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Try tech training. That may bring moti down a bit.
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Quote ( Daryl Gee @ September 1st 2020,23:42:02 ) Just go broke.
If unsure how, first go woke.
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I suggest you plan your driver cotract so you demotivate in Amateur wich is easier with more rivals and 110 over all :)
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Quote ( Derek Lunnon @ September 2nd 2020,02:07:34 ) Try tech training. That may bring moti down a bit.
Don't Erwan, not with your current driver. Derek can, it has that effect on his driver.
Or do if you want to see what effect it has by testing stuff but it will not bring your driver's motivation down, rather the opposite.
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Quote ( Erwan Tassin @ September 1st 2020,23:56:50 ) Unfortunately I am still 5 million in debt, I will only have 1 race, I need a really good result to barely pull me out and then go all in on next level parts I guess, but I am not sure it will be possible.
Hmm? Your driver still has 9 races contract, so all you need to do is to hit -15M money balance to drop all motivation. You may do it by buying new car parts as you mentioned or in any other way that can make you lose some money (driver market by setting and deleting offers spending 500k per offer?).
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Quote ( Erwan Tassin @ September 1st 2020,23:56:50 ) Unfortunately I am still 5 million in debt, I will only have 1 race, I need a really good result to barely pull me out and then go all in on next level parts I guess, but I am not sure it will be possible.
There are methods to spend money indefinitely, regardless if already negative or not, while probably a little tedious, they will get the job done.
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Quote ( Andrea Squizzato @ September 2nd 2020,07:17:51 ) Quote ( Erwan Tassin @ September 1st 2020,23:56:50 )
Unfortunately I am still 5 million in debt, I will only have 1 race, I need a really good result to barely pull me out and then go all in on next level parts I guess, but I am not sure it will be possible.
Hmm? Your driver still has 9 races contract, so all you need to do is to hit -15M money balance to drop all motivation. You may do it by buying new car parts as you mentioned or in any other way that can make you lose some money (driver market by setting and deleting offers spending 500k per offer?).
I have 9 races but if I remember correctly, even if my driver is under contract, if he is above 85 at the end of the season, he gets automatically replaced at the reset
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Quote ( Jody Parker @ September 2nd 2020,06:51:50 ) Quote ( Derek Lunnon @ September 2nd 2020,02:07:34 )
Try tech training. That may bring moti down a bit.
Don't Erwan, not with your current driver. Derek can, it has that effect on his driver.
Or do if you want to see what effect it has by testing stuff but it will not bring your driver's motivation down, rather the opposite.
Yeah I know, if I want to drop motivation via training, I will keep to fitness, as it is to me the most important thing to level up. But as of now I only am a bit in debt so I can't even train
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Quote ( Mery Lissarrague @ September 2nd 2020,05:24:13 ) I suggest you plan your driver cotract so you demotivate in Amateur wich is easier with more rivals and 110 over all :)
Well, easier than in Rookie, but still can be tough :D Sometimes even 30th place is not enough to demotivate driver :(
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You'd think someone who's played this game off and on for 5 years would know how to kill a driver's motivation and use the edit button when needed...
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Kill him. Rookie drivers just love to be alive and don't understand what last means.
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Quote ( Daniel Mason @ September 2nd 2020,15:59:58 ) You'd think someone who's played this game off and on for 5 years would know how to kill a driver's motivation and use the edit button when needed...
Appologies, but I really only played on my first stint, and actually never really ended in a situation like this in rookie.
Anyone can make mistakes, and anyone can forget stuff as time goes on
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I'm in rookie too and I wanted to stay there.
My pilot is over 85.
I have -7mln.
Motivation 250.
If I don't participate in the last race, does motivation decrease?
thanks
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#22 posted Sep 11th 2020, 13:05:56 (last edited Sep 11th 2020, 13:06:25 by Josh Clark)
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Missing races does not decrease moti.
There are still possible expenditures you can make while in debt to reach $-15mil, however I think the easiest one was only possible until 19:00 CET yesterday. Do you have any friends in teams?
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#23 posted Sep 11th 2020, 13:06:57
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Quote ( Antonio Palazzo @ September 11th 2020,11:35:42 )
I'm in rookie too and I wanted to stay there.
My pilot is over 85.
I have -7mln.
Motivation 250.
If I don't participate in the last race, does motivation decrease?
thanks
It's probably too late to try keeping your driver. If you manage to spend more than 22 million, maybe it's possible, I don't know the sequence for this in the season reset.
About not racing or even going last, Rookie races won't drop too much motivation, no matter what you do. Even if it dropped, it wouldn't be 250 points.
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#24 posted Sep 11th 2020, 13:07:46
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Do the certification test a bunch of times, Antonio. And not too well ;)
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#25 posted Sep 11th 2020, 14:55:36
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i can do it down to -15K !! how do i spend more?
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#26 posted Sep 11th 2020, 14:57:16
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Quote ( Miel Soeterbroek @ September 11th 2020,13:07:46 ) Do the certification test a bunch of times, Antonio. And not too well ;)
i can do it down to -15K !! how do i spend more?
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#27 posted Sep 11th 2020, 14:59:45
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Quote ( Josh Clark @ September 11th 2020,13:05:56 ) Missing races does not decrease moti.
There are still possible expenditures you can make while in debt to reach $-15mil, however I think the easiest one was only possible until 19:00 CET yesterday. Do you have any friends in teams?
Yes I have a friends.
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