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Old post #301 posted Jun 5th 2021, 22:51:44 Quote 
Strange how Mercedes are having performance issues this term. If not for Hamilton they would be in big trouble.

Now its spit your dummy out time over rear wings.
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Old post #302 posted Jun 6th 2021, 18:02:55 Quote 
Wow, that was a super crazy race!
So in the standings a lot of changes except top 2 and Tsunoda on 14th position.
Ferrari jumped to 3rd position and Alpha Tauri switched positions with Aston Martin. Gunther's rookie masterplan is working and Haas overtook Williams already. That is very shameful for Williams.
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Old post #303 posted Jun 6th 2021, 19:23:28 Quote 
So far Gasly is doing very well and it looks like both Perez and Vettel are bacc on form. Also it seems Mercedes struggle is real this time no sandbags apparently.
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Old post #304 posted Jun 7th 2021, 09:18:12 Quote 
Alonso also did great, but I am not sure how much of it was his driving and how much luck. Danny Ric and Tsunoda in points, so the whole "we need 5 races to get familiar with the car" might be correct.
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Old post #305 posted Jun 9th 2021, 10:16:37 (last edited Jun 9th 2021, 10:16:52 by Luke Frost) Quote 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.formula1.com/en/latest/arti...

Hopefully DannyRic can get used to the car better. It's been sad to watch this first part of the season. Is Norris just that good?
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Old post #306 posted Jun 9th 2021, 10:18:12 Quote 
Norris is just that good.
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Old post #307 posted Jun 9th 2021, 10:20:03 Quote 
I heard that Norris is just that freaking good
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Old post #308 posted Jun 9th 2021, 10:21:15 Quote 
Sainz was keeping up with him, and is now keeping up with Leclerc...so yeah, seems like that :D
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Old post #309 posted Jun 9th 2021, 10:53:17 Quote 
But also Norris said, that the car is difficult to learn, so we are not yet seeing the full potential of Norris in that car.
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Old post #310 posted Jun 9th 2021, 11:19:00 Quote 
I think most of it's down to only having 3 days of testing before the first race
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Old post #311 posted Jun 9th 2021, 11:54:06 Quote 
Quote ( Luke Frost @ June 9th 2021,10:16:37 )

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.formula1.com/en/latest/arti...

Hopefully DannyRic can get used to the car better. It's been sad to watch this first part of the season. Is Norris just that good?

Looks like Daniel is not able to keep up with the new car.
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Old post #312 posted Jun 9th 2021, 12:13:31 Quote 
Also it's very important to remember they have reduced the Friday sessions by half hour each, which means very little time if any during the session to adjust the car while still completing the programme's they need to.


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Old post #313 posted Jun 9th 2021, 17:21:45 (last edited Jun 9th 2021, 17:26:25 by Zé Pedro Paula) Quote 
DannyRic was beating Verstappen.


https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/11363892/daniel-ricc...
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Old post #314 posted Jun 10th 2021, 01:21:36 Quote 
Quote ( Zé Pedro Paula @ June 9th 2021,17:21:45 )

DannyRic was beating Verstappen.


https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/11363892/daniel-ricc...


Seems like either the car has a HUGE influence on driver ability, or Lando is a future world champion who will dominate the sport for many years :D
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Old post #315 posted Jun 10th 2021, 01:25:24 Quote 
Quote ( Zé Pedro Paula @ June 9th 2021,17:21:45 )

DannyRic was beating Verstappen.


https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/11363892/daniel-ricc...


Yeah, I see 2018 didn't finish that season yet and 2017 was Max' misfortune, where he retired 7 times in the first 14 races, mostly due to car breakdowns.

In the end, Max beat Ricardo convincingly and Ricciardo felt like he needed to leave.
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Old post #316 posted Jun 10th 2021, 16:13:22 Quote 
Is it just me or is Seb really regaining his old self, when he was dominating in his Red Bull years, after the disastrous seasons with Ferrari?




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Old post #317 posted Jun 10th 2021, 16:36:49 Quote 
I can't help but noticing the deafening silence here in regards to the Baku GP ...

Nothing on Mercedes having yet another bad weekend essentially ...
Nothing on NOR getting a 3 place grid penalty ...
Nothing on BOT being absolutely nowhere ... again ...
Nothing on both VER and PER over cutting HAM ...
Nothing on the tires blowing out on STR and VER ...
Nothing on HAM flicking the switch and again making a mistake ...
Nothing on that few laps restart and all skill full driving put on display ...
Nothing on VET finishing second ...
Nothing on PER claiming his second win ever ...
Nothing on Pirelli claiming debris being at fault of the blow-outs ...

Peculiar! There were plenty of discussion worthy things happening on track ... and nothing at all?

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Old post #318 posted Jun 10th 2021, 16:54:01 Quote 
Quote ( Luke Frost @ June 10th 2021,01:21:36 )

Quote ( Zé Pedro Paula @ June 9th 2021,17:21:45 )

DannyRic was beating Verstappen.


https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/11363892/daniel-ricc...

Seems like either the car has a HUGE influence on driver ability, or Lando is a future world champion who will dominate the sport for many years :D


He can start right this year.

Yes, if he leaves this Car he would be a dumb fool for many years instead. He's like most of GPRO managers. He has been there driving car 1, 2 and 3 and Ricciardo is find hard to start with the car 3. "Before was much harder".
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Old post #319 posted Jun 10th 2021, 16:59:54 Quote 
Quote ( Niels Van Heijster @ June 10th 2021,16:36:49 )

Nothing on the tires blowing out on STR and VER ...


There is actually an active forum about random punctures. Don't even mention it.
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Old post #320 posted Jun 10th 2021, 17:02:25 Quote 
Quote ( Niels Van Heijster @ June 10th 2021,16:36:49 )

I can't help but noticing the deafening silence here in regards to the Baku GP ...

Nothing on Mercedes having yet another bad weekend essentially ...
Nothing on NOR getting a 3 place grid penalty ...
Nothing on BOT being absolutely nowhere ... again ...
Nothing on both VER and PER over cutting HAM ...
Nothing on the tires blowing out on STR and VER ...
Nothing on HAM flicking the switch and again making a mistake ...
Nothing on that few laps restart and all skill full driving put on display ...
Nothing on VET finishing second ...
Nothing on PER claiming his second win ever ...
Nothing on Pirelli claiming debris being at fault of the blow-outs ...

Peculiar! There were plenty of discussion worthy things happening on track ... and nothing at all?


I think everyone is still digesting all that. So much to take in and so much mixed emotions. :P
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Old post #321 posted Jun 10th 2021, 17:08:12 (last edited Jun 10th 2021, 17:14:51 by Zé Pedro Paula) Quote 
Quote ( Sara Lingrey @ June 10th 2021,01:25:24 )

Yeah, I see 2018 didn't finish that season yet and 2017 was Max' misfortune, where he retired 7 times in the first 14 races, mostly due to car breakdowns.


Actually, there is at least a last season stats where most drivers with more DNF's finished ahead of the team mates. I guess it is risk taking. Maybe he just needed to retire 3 or 4 times to be better.

Anyway, in the end, like 2018, Ricciardo beat Verstappen, Wins 1-0, podiums 1-0, points 37-18, the double plus 1. But yes, Verstappen is younger, was getting and is better. I just wouldn't want him in Mclaren because teams for me are more than 1 player.
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Old post #322 posted Jun 10th 2021, 18:10:52 Quote 
Quote ( Niels Van Heijster @ June 10th 2021,16:36:49 )

I can't help but noticing the deafening silence here in regards to the Baku GP ...

Nothing on Mercedes having yet another bad weekend essentially ...
Nothing on NOR getting a 3 place grid penalty ...
Nothing on BOT being absolutely nowhere ... again ...
Nothing on both VER and PER over cutting HAM ...
Nothing on the tires blowing out on STR and VER ...
Nothing on HAM flicking the switch and again making a mistake ...
Nothing on that few laps restart and all skill full driving put on display ...
Nothing on VET finishing second ...
Nothing on PER claiming his second win ever ...
Nothing on Pirelli claiming debris being at fault of the blow-outs ...

Peculiar! There were plenty of discussion worthy things happening on track ... and nothing at all?

Every one thinks they were dreaming... :D
I don't believe in debris story... Seems to much similar on both cars.
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Old post #323 posted Jun 10th 2021, 19:27:59 Quote 
Quote ( Zé Pedro Paula @ June 10th 2021,17:08:12 )

Quote ( Sara Lingrey @ June 10th 2021,01:25:24 )

Yeah, I see 2018 didn't finish that season yet and 2017 was Max' misfortune, where he retired 7 times in the first 14 races, mostly due to car breakdowns.

Actually, there is at least a last season stats where most drivers with more DNF's finished ahead of the team mates. I guess it is risk taking. Maybe he just needed to retire 3 or 4 times to be better.

Anyway, in the end, like 2018, Ricciardo beat Verstappen, Wins 1-0, podiums 1-0, points 37-18, the double plus 1. But yes, Verstappen is younger, was getting and is better. I just wouldn't want him in Mclaren because teams for me are more than 1 player.


Mate, you know that 2018 was still ongoing while they did those stats right? Max eventually won 2 races that season. Out-qualified, out-raced and out-scored Danny Ric.
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Old post #324 posted Jun 10th 2021, 19:48:18 (last edited Jun 10th 2021, 19:53:42 by Zé Pedro Paula) Quote 
Quote ( Sara Lingrey @ June 10th 2021,19:27:59 )

Mate, you know that 2018 was still ongoing while they did those stats right? Max eventually won 2 races that season. Out-qualified, out-raced and out-scored Danny Ric.


OK, mate. I believe you're an Aussie. No worries. Let's leave the current season champion aside. Danny Ric, that's his name, right? His name it is. He beat Landy Nor. In a lousy... in a Renault. 2019.
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Old post #325 posted Jun 10th 2021, 19:57:25 (last edited Jun 10th 2021, 20:06:37 by Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo) Quote 
Quote ( Niels Van Heijster @ June 10th 2021,16:36:49 )

I can't help but noticing the deafening silence here in regards to the Baku GP ...

Nothing on Mercedes having yet another bad weekend essentially ...
Nothing on NOR getting a 3 place grid penalty ...
Nothing on BOT being absolutely nowhere ... again ...
Nothing on both VER and PER over cutting HAM ...
Nothing on the tires blowing out on STR and VER ...
Nothing on HAM flicking the switch and again making a mistake ...
Nothing on that few laps restart and all skill full driving put on display ...
Nothing on VET finishing second ...
Nothing on PER claiming his second win ever ...
Nothing on Pirelli claiming debris being at fault of the blow-outs ...

Peculiar! There were plenty of discussion worthy things happening on track ... and nothing at all?



Last time somebody asked why there were no comments here, they just said that everything was discussed on discord, and hence no use doing it here.

Maybe that is the reason that F1 discussions and comments have decreased

About Hamilton and Bottas, I read somewhere that Mercedes tried to compensate their car with a low downforce front wing, giving them a "DRS" on the straights sacrificing the back part.

That is why, apart form Leclerc doing a small mistake, Hamilton overtook him easlily on the straight, and why Perez complained about Hamilton being very fast in the straights. And if you saw the gaps it was the straights where Hamilton got closer, and lost all that gain on the windy part (Yet I do believe Perez did a great job holding him back)

If that was the change that made them competitive it could be that Hamilton was able to cope better with and understeering car (due to the low front downforce) better than Bottas.

I would also kind of assume that the "Magic Brakes" button could have been used by Hamilton during the race to gain heat to his front tyres that also could be colder due to the low front download.

I can easily assume that Hamilton could easily cope with this changes, due mostly to his talent and keeness, than Bottas could.
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Old post #326 posted Jun 10th 2021, 20:42:53 (last edited Jun 10th 2021, 20:48:01 by Zé Pedro Paula) Quote 
Look @Luke Frost (P20).

I can get you the "inside" story. Having "press" credentials is always handy. :-)

Getting inside a McLaren for the first time can be a moment of true revelation. And awe.

https://www.racexpress.nl/imgitems/article/2021/02/Daniel_Ri...

But, worry not. Just watch "us" Danny Ric going into the next round.

https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/1402975412096049154

Now I can't tell you what the result will be. Only that it will be good. ;-D
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Old post #327 posted Jun 10th 2021, 20:52:04 (last edited Jun 10th 2021, 20:52:57 by Zé Pedro Paula) Quote 
Quote ( Niels Van Heijster @ June 10th 2021,16:36:49 )

Nothing on VET finishing second ...


I liked that he finished ahead of the 2 Ferrari and Hamilton. For him. He can retire now. I mean I would still hire him but I'm not a rich dad.
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Old post #328 posted Jun 10th 2021, 21:38:48 (last edited Jun 10th 2021, 21:49:43 by Marcelo Ascencio) Quote 
Everyone on the podium was kicked out from previous team
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