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#31 posted Dec 18th 2020, 09:30:41
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About time Perez was in a top team, great driver. Should be much better on tyres than verstappen too
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#32 posted Dec 18th 2020, 10:35:50
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Quote ( Stuart Foster @ December 18th 2020,00:51:09 ) I think the one thing that makes him comparible is that Red Bull will have a driver that will get the maximum out of the equipment, something Perez has done everywhere he has been, and Ricciardo the same.
In the race maybe, but he isn't on the same level in qualifying.
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#33 posted Dec 18th 2020, 11:50:56
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perez is good in terms of race .... so redbull should be in a position to restrict some options of mercs. Also, his tyre management is quite good again might give the strategic upper hand to bulls. not sure but if rb keeps him in 2022 also he might be a great asset as the sidewalls of Pirelli tyres are decreasing and tyre management will become even more important.
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#34 posted Dec 18th 2020, 13:36:58
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Probably they will keep albon as they want to keep the thai owners and verstappen happy .This is what i feel .
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#35 posted Dec 18th 2020, 15:04:17
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#36 posted Dec 18th 2020, 15:22:06
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Perez to RBR - it's official! Looks like they aren't so stupid after all :)
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#37 posted Dec 18th 2020, 15:36:31
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Quote ( Sudeep Pednekar @ December 18th 2020,10:35:50 ) In the race maybe, but he isn't on the same level in qualifying.
He did outqualify Stroll this year as well as last year.
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#38 posted Dec 18th 2020, 15:45:18
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Stroll is a bad qualifier, he himself admitted that, he's slightly improved this season but yeah. He had one one of the worst records of not being able to get out of Q1 in 2019 (Stroll).
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Quote ( Sudeep Pednekar @ December 18th 2020,10:35:50 ) In the race maybe, but he isn't on the same level in qualifying.
That, I agree with. Points are only scored in races though of course, and Perez will do a better job of bringing them home than Albon did this season. I'm certain of that.
Quote ( Hamd Kazimi @ December 18th 2020,15:36:31 ) He did outqualify Stroll this year as well as last year.
my left nut could outqualify Stroll ;)
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#40 posted Dec 18th 2020, 18:25:53
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Well this is all great news.
Knobs at racing point give him the boot for vettel and he ends up in a better program. Nice Christmas present for checo, even if I'm sure it was quite depressing and stressful.
Very happy to see this happen.
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#41 posted Dec 18th 2020, 19:31:16
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Quote ( Jay De Snoo @ December 14th 2020,02:15:35 ) Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ December 14th 2020,00:13:39 )
Question : Perez or Albon ?
That's a very simple one: Perez. Although I personally prefer Hulkenbeg as I think he can better play the role of Bottas but then inside Red bull. Yet I fully admit Perez would probably deliver better results... (but I consider him 1st driver, like I doubt Leclerc & Sainz next season together)
Anyway Red Bull would make themselves completely unbelievable as 2021 championship contenders if they would continue forward with Albon. His performance overall was just too (under) average... I personally don't mind whom it will be (but Perez and Hulkenberg are most obvious, but I think Gasly is an outsider)
Also Verstappen expressed pretty negatively on Albon lately, especially on the support part so I expect Albon to be history
NB For some reason we Dutch F1 fans who never had any success before nowadays have to defend ourselves for a (half) countrymen driving under our flag ... Obviously I cheer for for our flag as I would do in any sports (who wouln't!) , but in like 30-35 years of F1 I've never supported any team or driver (except Senna perhaps). Max doesn't make a big difference to me on how I look at F1, except I can cheer with the flag sometimes ;) (I do reckon he's an exceptional talented driver, but Magnussen was once too... )
Now that's funny. I'm Brazilian and I never thought Senna was better than Piquet, so I never really cheered for him, but for the flag. And I always liked Jos very much (terrible cars, magnificent race starts). Now I'm a sucker for Max and can't wait for him to win the championship.
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Quote ( Jaime Sinclair @ December 18th 2020,19:31:16 ) Now that's funny. I'm Brazilian and I never thought Senna was better than Piquet, so I never really cheered for him, but for the flag. And I always liked Jos very much (terrible cars, magnificent race starts). Now I'm a sucker for Max and can't wait for him to win the championship.
Not sure what's funny? What I think is funny you missed Senna's talent, while it was obvious... Think that's the most common mistake made on Verstappen too. Think I said it often already but will say again, I nowhere was or ever will be either a team or driver fan. I follow F1 closely since early 80's, I fully admit - like in any sports - it's nice to cheer for your own country, but that SHOULDN'T blindfold you on what's actually happening in whatever circumstances...
Eitherway, Perez seems finally to be confirmed for RBR. And I would say that is a good move and certainly a way forward for RBR... Now all we need to know is how close (or how far off (again?) RBR is from Mercedes at the start of next seson...
Apart from that Perez will be competitive (to the field, probably not to Verstappen) and genuinly function as a back up for RBR finally. If RBR gets their things together from start of season onwards - like they are claiming again - , it might be the most interesting season in years....
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Quote ( Stuart Foster @ December 18th 2020,17:51:31 ) That, I agree with. Points are only scored in races though of course, and Perez will do a better job of bringing them home than Albon did this season. I'm certain of that.
That's beside the point, ofc he's better than Albon. I was talking about Ricciardo being better than him overall.
Given how the formula is currently, qualifying is more important than it used to be before.
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1) Lewis 2) Bottas 3) Max 4) Checo 5) Leclerc 6) Alonso 7) Ricciardo 8) Vettel 9) Sainz 10) Gasly 11) Norris 12) Stroll 13) Ocon 14) Tsunoda 15) Kimi 16) Giovinazzi 17) Schumacher 18) Russell 19) Latifi 20) Mazepin
Thoughts ?
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#45 posted Dec 19th 2020, 11:39:38
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Ooo Alonso beating Ricardo. That's an interesting one, but I think you're right in both will be heading their teams. I don't think Sainz or Norris get destroyed that hard though, I'd like to think both will be closer to their team mates. Unless that massive group between 5th and 14th is separated by 20 points then I'd think they'd be higher up. Stroll too if you think Aston will have a good enough car to get Vettel behind Ricciardo in a McLaren.
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#46 posted Dec 19th 2020, 11:46:06
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5-14 was really really hard to sort... Ofc it will depend of the cars. And I agree, Lando 11 Stroll 12 and Ocon 13 is a bit hard but who can take these places ? Even the AT will improbe because they'll use the RB facilities.
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#47 posted Dec 19th 2020, 11:48:05
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Too early to say really, Mercedes will be up front but after that the order isn't worth speculating over. Always media hype over some teams that never plays out when it comes to Melbourne.
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#48 posted Dec 19th 2020, 11:53:20 (last edited Dec 19th 2020, 11:54:16 by Josh Clark)
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Yeah that's the area with the biggest uncertainty I guess
I dont think vettel will be ahead of stroll personally. I also don't think Renault will be fast enough for podiums, or Ferrari, so I'd move them down
And wildcard opinion, Mazepin beats Schumacher. I think his stupid and erratic driving style will net him some points finishes and a load of DNFs in a car that can't really score points.
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#49 posted Dec 19th 2020, 13:37:15
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Quote ( Cameron Halsall @ December 19th 2020,11:48:05 ) Too early to say really, Mercedes will be up front but after that the order isn't worth speculating over. Always media hype over some teams that never plays out when it comes to Melbourne.
Ofc it's early but it was just a try...
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#50 posted Dec 19th 2020, 13:49:24
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Quote ( Sudeep Pednekar @ December 19th 2020,09:00:33 ) I was talking about Ricciardo being better than him overall.
With Jun you were, not me, I already commented that I expect Ricciardo to be pushing Max and Valtteri very hard for the other two podium places, i.e not including Checo in the same breath ;) Like I said, Ricciardo will quite possibly be driving in the best equipment he has ever been next year. Ok, maybe some might say that's giving McLaren a heavy dose of credit, but they do look to me like a team that is slowly but surely getting back to where it should be. So, yup, gonna be interesting to see where Ricciardo might finish in the standings. I don't think its beyond him to be competing for 3rd, but I would not put it past him to be giving Bottas a run for 2nd.
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Quote ( Josh Clark @ December 19th 2020,11:53:20 ) I think his stupid and erratic driving style will net him some points finishes
I actually think Haas might finish in last place next year. While Williams are equally poor, its worth noting that Williams beat Haas in all but one of the last 6 races. I'm hoping (but not expecting) Williams to not end in last place next season. If Haas score a point next year I think it would be a mighty result for them on current form. Maybe Mick Schuey can prove me wrong. Or that nut case. :)
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#52 posted Dec 19th 2020, 14:08:50
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I actually think Haas have a decent chance, they've just struggled to develop the car over the past couple of years. I think they will be planning for the long term.
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#53 posted Dec 19th 2020, 14:34:21
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Haas nearly went out of business thanks to the pandemic so I don't think they will have had a chance to put much into next years car. I hope that they do produce something decent (especially now that the Ferrari guy has come over to give a hand) but I think theyll be looking to 2022.
Put it this way, if Haas weren't in such a poor financial situation, I'm 95% sure they'd have signed Illot instead of Marzipan.
Williams have slowly been getting better and George is a special talent so I think he will snag a few points next year. Depends how much they've focused on 2022. The Dorilton Capital money hopefully will have come soon enough in the year to get development on next years car and some knowledge of the Mercedes car will surely creep into it from Georges experience there
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#54 posted Dec 21st 2020, 15:33:20
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Mazepins removed all HAAS branding and pictures from his social media, while Pietro Fittipaldi has changed his media to be HAAS heavy with his Instagram bio stating HAAS F1 driver. Mazepins deleted everything off his Twitter too, there’s something going on here.
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#55 posted Dec 21st 2020, 15:35:06
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Fingers crossed for that dunce losing his seat before his first race
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#56 posted Dec 21st 2020, 15:36:35
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Quote ( James Hitchen @ December 21st 2020,15:33:20 ) Mazepins removed all HAAS branding and pictures from his social media, while Pietro Fittipaldi has changed his media to be HAAS heavy with his Instagram bio stating HAAS F1 driver. Mazepins deleted everything off his Twitter too, there’s something going on here.
JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED
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It makes sense for HAAS, Schumacher-Fittipaldi provides far more promotional value, Pietro brings a huge following with him too, Bahrain he finished 3rd on DotD vote which is the strongest die hard fan base I’ve seen since Verstappen. He brings money to the seat too, but not as much as Mazepin. The rumour I’ve heard is HAAS are trying to push through a case to get out of Mazepins contract but also receive compensation. If they get compensation and Fittipaldis money financially they won’t be much worse off.
EDIT: BWT are stating they wish to stay as a sponsor in F1 with Aston Martin wishing to drop them. It’s expected if they do stop funding Aston Martin they would sponsor HAAS but only if Mazepin is fired. Pietro has Carlos Slim backing him like Perez does...
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#58 posted Dec 21st 2020, 16:04:29
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It comes at a great time after Interlagos extended their contract with F1 until 2025. Brazilian fans are as passionate as Italian and Dutch fans so it would be a great thing for the sport to have Pietro. He seems like a nice guy too.
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#59 posted Dec 21st 2020, 16:22:01
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Quote ( James Hitchen @ December 21st 2020,15:49:47 ) Carlos Slim
Brother of Fatboy
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#60 posted Dec 21st 2020, 17:09:14
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Quote ( Jun Ho @ December 21st 2020,16:22:01 ) Quote ( James Hitchen @ December 21st 2020,15:49:47 )
Carlos Slim
Brother of Fatboy
Jun could you just explain this?
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