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Old post #61 posted Dec 21st 2020, 17:20:16 Quote 
Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ December 21st 2020,17:09:14 )

Jun could you just explain this?


There's an artist called Fatboy Slim. Just a joke. :)
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Old post #62 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 10:55:16 Quote 
I saw the Mazepin video a while ago and the girl's statements, honestly this has been blown out of proportion so much it's ridiculous. They're friends and it was joke? Whatever it was, the media & the idiots on the internet have made it out to be as if he's some criminal.
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Old post #63 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 11:30:05 Quote 
Hundreds of women have come out and said when they've been sexually assaulted by a friend, they have had exactly the same reaction until years later. And besides, the point is if he's doing that to his friend, what's he capable of doing to other women he doesn't know? Enough people can see the problem, sponsors etc are apparently pulling out so they're not associated with him.
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Old post #64 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 12:09:53 Quote 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sexual%20assault

"without consent" "force"

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sponsors etc are apparently pulling out so they're not associated with him.


That's only because of the way social media has become now.

If he didn't have consent she would be suing him for millions or whatever. But she hasn't...which should tell you something?
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Old post #65 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 12:15:57 Quote 
are you really that naive Sudeep

His dad is a billionaire, he probably very quickly paid her off while making her sign a NDA and the cover story that it was just a "joke"
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Old post #66 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 13:20:48 (last edited Dec 23rd 2020, 13:26:54 by Sudeep Pednekar) Quote 
I'm not naïve, just assuming things like that is bad. Innocent until proven guilty does apply even if he's a billionaire.
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Old post #67 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 13:24:48 Quote 
I think I've already made my position clear, Haas are within their rights to keep him or dismiss him and it is nobody else's right to say otherwise. He should be deemed innocent until proven guilty, and treated as such under the rule of law and face any legal consequences that are deemed necessary. I don't care how rich he is or where he comes from, cancel culture is a disgrace and has no place in any community, let alone F1.
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Old post #68 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 13:27:50 Quote 
As for Fittipaldi, sure the name has a lot of meaning to the sports history, but so far he hasn't really performed. If there really is nobody else then fine, but Haas already have one driver signed because of his name, I would hope they'd keep the other seat for someone otherwise unknown to the wider community.
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Old post #69 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 13:31:48 Quote 
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I'm not naïve, just assuming things like that is bad. Innocent until proven guilty does apply even if he's a billionaire

Billionaires never get proven guilty, they reach out-of-court settlements. That doesn't mean they're innocent.
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Old post #70 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 13:46:58 Quote 
Billionaires only exist because they are bad people, you can't create that much wealth without having a lack of morals and getting away with things. I'd be very surprised if they did get rid of him, people like him have always been able to do what they want.
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Old post #71 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 13:50:01 Quote 
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"without consent" "force"

What exactly is your idea of "consent" then?

If you went up to a woman and groped them without them asking you to, and they don't punch you in the face or call the police, is this your idea of consent?
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Old post #72 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 13:50:33 Quote 
I would profoundly disagree, some of the greatest people who have ever lived have been inordinately wealthy. Besides, most people who are that wealthy give a lot of that wealth to charity. Also not everyone who is that rich gets away with criminal activity. Just look at Sepp Blatter.
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Old post #73 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 13:51:36 Quote 
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Quote ( Sudeep Pednekar @ December 23rd 2020,12:09:53 )

"without consent" "force"

What exactly is your idea of "consent" then?

If you went up to a woman and groped them without them asking you to, and they don't punch you in the face or call the police, is this your idea of consent?



That doesn't mean it wasn't consent either.
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Old post #74 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 13:58:06 Quote 
Quote ( Cameron Halsall @ December 23rd 2020,13:51:36 )

That doesn't mean it wasn't consent either.

Last post from me about it cos it's not F1 related, but does that mean you'd consider the above example not sexual harrassment? Do you think someone being groped without approval, then not reacting disapprovingly (which btw is not the same as reacting approvingly) is ok? Cos that tells me all I need to know about you.
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Old post #75 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 14:42:26 Quote 
Quote ( Cameron Halsall @ December 23rd 2020,13:27:50 )

As for Fittipaldi, sure the name has a lot of meaning to the sports history, but so far he hasn't really performed. If there really is nobody else then fine, but Haas already have one driver signed because of his name, I would hope they'd keep the other seat for someone otherwise unknown to the wider community.

a f2 champion is not worth of a seat and just there because of his name ,awesome thoughts salute to your thoughts .Even with such a competetive field in f2 he is the champ this year .
There were drivers like ilott,robert,yuki,zhou,lungguard,drugovich and many such amazing drivers .
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Old post #76 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 14:54:46 Quote 
Quote ( Josh Clark @ December 23rd 2020,13:50:01 )

If you went up to a woman and groped them without them asking you to


This is where the assumption comes in, how do you know he did not ask her before doing it?
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Old post #77 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 15:38:56 Quote 
The woman has since stated it was non consensual and that they aren’t actually friends. I think a lot of people missed that...

she described the situation as getting drunk around a group of assholes
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Old post #78 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 16:10:34 Quote 
Source?

I found this, so I'm going by this one https://www.planetf1.com/news/nikita-mazepin-defend-good-person/
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Old post #79 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 16:25:32 Quote 
Sudeep, there's loads of proof of insta stories from the woman in question regarding the MAzepin incident. Since it's twitter, I ain't linking any of it, but just check the hashtag #wesaynotomazepin and you will see everything.
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Old post #80 posted Dec 23rd 2020, 17:05:36 Quote 
I hate twitter so I never use it........
Anyway, so the blue screenshot things, well now I don't know what actually happened.
She denied any wrong doing before, then later she's potentially hinting that there wasn't any consent.. I'm not a lawyer but I don't think that would work in a court, she needs to file a case/speak the truth if Mazepin has to be punished.
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Old post #81 posted Jan 22nd 2021, 04:51:42 (last edited Jan 22nd 2021, 04:54:10 by Marcelo Ascencio) Quote 
Who will replace Hamilton?

The rumor goes that Hamilton wants $40M and Mercedes wants to cut costs, and they are already in talks with Williams for Russell... again.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/f1/lewis-hamilton-contract...

https://formula1news.co.uk/real-chance-of-george-russell-rep...

Anybody heard anything about this being true or not?
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Old post #82 posted Jan 22nd 2021, 07:41:55 Quote 
Quote ( Marcelo Ascencio @ January 22nd 2021,04:51:42 )

Who will replace Hamilton?

The rumor goes that Hamilton wants $40M and Mercedes wants to cut costs, and they are already in talks with Williams for Russell... again.
I hope for Russel :D
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Old post #83 posted Jan 22nd 2021, 08:06:00 Quote 
I think they would come togheter to an aggrement. It's about a possible 8 world champion title. And Lewis, for sure, want to be the driver with most world champions. He can cut cost form himself, too. :D :P
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Old post #84 posted Feb 2nd 2021, 11:23:19 Quote 
So you thought Catalunya couldn't get any more boring!

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.circuit-de-barcel...

One of the only overtaking opportunities on the track they have made a sweeping corner and no longer a hairpin
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Old post #85 posted Feb 2nd 2021, 19:22:25 Quote 
Quote ( Kyle Morris @ February 2nd 2021,11:23:19 )

So you thought Catalunya couldn't get any more boring!

Oh man :D

No worries, they can still bypass turns 1-6 and use the DTM-ish track :D Or better yet make an artifical chicane a couple meters after the finish line.

Although I can see how turn 10 might be more fun corner now to drive through. But yes you won't be seeing many overtakes into that corner now. At least after the biggest grip of new asphalt is rubbed away?
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Old post #86 posted Feb 2nd 2021, 19:44:46 Quote 
I mean tbh there were never any passes down there anyway, so opening up the corner will probably make it easier to get alongside through the following section. In any case racecraft should decide overtakes, not track design.
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Old post #87 posted Feb 8th 2021, 04:35:25 Quote 
https://twitter.com/HillF1/status/1357044407338467335?ref_sr...


Is Lewis afraid some driver can shadow him while using same equipment?
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Old post #88 posted Feb 8th 2021, 07:18:17 Quote 
Quote ( Marcelo Ascencio @ February 8th 2021,04:35:25 )

https://twitter.com/HillF1/status/1357044407338467335?ref_sr...


Is Lewis afraid some driver can shadow him while using same equipment?
I think it's clear already...
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Old post #89 posted Feb 8th 2021, 07:35:05 Quote 
Rumours rumours ... :)
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Old post #90 posted Feb 8th 2021, 12:45:30 Quote 
finally lewis signs the contract it was a sure bet that lewis will be signed .
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