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Topic: Let tyres go to 0% or pit before? |
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#1 posted Jan 27th 2021, 08:49:32
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Hi,
Is there a drop-off in lap times once the tyre condition is below a certain percentage or should one aim to pit such that the tyre condition would be around 0% at that time?
When seeing the race analysis, the tyre compound is marked grey when the tyre condition is below 20% or 18% I guess. Does that mean one should have pitted before that?
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#2 posted Jan 27th 2021, 08:51:51
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You can try to aim in the next race not to let the tyres go into being marked grey and see if your performance changes.
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#3 posted Jan 27th 2021, 08:54:03
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Quote ( Gurinder Singh @ January 27th 2021,08:49:32 ) Is there a drop-off in lap times once the tyre condition is below a certain percentage or should one aim to pit such that the tyre condition would be around 0% at that time?
Did you have any analysis data for it yet?
You can observe it even on others from last race, by the way. Watch the replay, and take note of the times of those on wobbly tyres. You should be able to get an idea if you note all of their dropoff lap-by-lap while wobbling, and use the info to calculate how far you can push your tyres before they become slower than a full fuel tank.
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#4 posted Jan 27th 2021, 09:11:06
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Quote ( Luke Frost @ January 27th 2021,08:54:03 ) You can observe it even on others from last race, by the way. Watch the replay, and take note of the times of those on wobbly tyres. You should be able to get an idea if you note all of their dropoff lap-by-lap while wobbling, and use the info to calculate how far you can push your tyres before they become slower than a full fuel tank. And even then it's necessary to check if you can manage to reduce your amount of pit stops by going a little further with wobbly tyres, consider if the extra time lost by an extra pit is worth the time gained by not wobbling for x amount of laps.
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#5 posted Jan 27th 2021, 09:20:20
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Sometimes it looks like it's possible to do 2 stops on softs rather than mediums but with having a few laps in the grey.
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#6 posted Jan 27th 2021, 09:24:49
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what you need to do is change your strategy or something
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#7 posted Jan 27th 2021, 09:27:34
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Quote ( Gurinder Singh @ January 27th 2021,09:20:20 ) Sometimes it looks like it's possible to do 2 stops on softs rather than mediums but with having a few laps in the grey.
And sometimes that gain in qualifying position or early pace is worth it :)
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#8 posted Jan 27th 2021, 09:35:03
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Quote ( Gurinder Singh @ January 27th 2021,09:20:20 ) Sometimes it looks like it's possible to do 2 stops on softs rather than mediums but with having a few laps in the grey.
You can try either this race and keep your reflection for next time a similar situation comes up.
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#9 posted Jan 27th 2021, 09:55:34
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I would say which option is better would depend on the race to race factors and you will have to weigh the benefit of wearing tyres out more vs using a harder compound for example, and select what you feel will be best for your race.
You can actually check your race timings and observe how much time is loss as you spend more time in “grey” or worn out tyres, and record that down. That should give you a good marker how much you should be willing to push a softer tyre before its benefit starts to lose out.
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#10 posted Jan 27th 2021, 10:19:31
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I guess it might be worth qualifying higher and spending a few laps in the grey on tracks where it's difficult to overtake.
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#11 posted Jan 27th 2021, 10:27:29
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Optimal tyre condition is between 100 and ~20%. Below 20% the tyres get more and more wobbly (that's why there is a in the race viewer next to someone's name, and in the race analysis the coumpound is marked grey). Then the further you push your tyres, the less efficient they will be.
Whether it's "good" or "bad" to push tyres to their limit, there is no unique answer as it's of course situational, sometimes you're able to put on a softer compound or save one stop at low cost, sometimes it costs too much time because you would need to ask your driver to save his tyres so much that he loses even more time on track... traffic is another factor... (that you'll really learn to cope with in Amateur and higher) The better advice would be: you're in Rookie, feel free to try it out and learn from your experiments :)
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#12 posted Jan 27th 2021, 17:21:12
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Quote ( Stéphane Rombaux @ January 27th 2021,10:27:29 ) Optimal tyre condition is between 100 and ~20%. Below 20% the tyres get more and more wobbly (that's why there is a in the race viewer next to someone's name, and in the race analysis the coumpound is marked grey). Then the further you push your tyres, the less efficient they will be.
Whether it's "good" or "bad" to push tyres to their limit, there is no unique answer as it's of course situational, sometimes you're able to put on a softer compound or save one stop at low cost, sometimes it costs too much time because you would need to ask your driver to save his tyres so much that he loses even more time on track... traffic is another factor... (that you'll really learn to cope with in Amateur and higher) The better advice would be: you're in Rookie, feel free to try it out and learn from your experiments :)
that is what i do just work till you get it right :)
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