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Paradise Edokpayi
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Old post #1 posted May 1st 2021, 22:24:28 Quote 
How do you figure out how much fuel you use per lap?
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Old post #2 posted May 1st 2021, 22:30:04 Quote 
Explore the Wiki, there's a very good hint on how to manage fuel in this page https://wiki.gpro.net/index.php?title=Fuel
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Old post #3 posted May 1st 2021, 22:30:35 Quote 
https://wiki.gpro.net/index.php?title=Fuel

This will give you all the information. Make sure you keep an eye out on the track info for fuel consumption whether its a medium, low, high, very high or very low circuit and base the calculations from that
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Old post #4 posted May 1st 2021, 22:38:22 Quote 
Start with the basic help that is written in-game:

"As a base guideline it is unlikely that any standard 300km long race will exceed 280 liters of fuel."

Next race, Mugello, has 304.3km, so if you put 284 liters, you won't ran out of fuel.

After the race, check out your Race Analysis to see how much fuel was left on your car at the end of the race. That will help you calculate more accurately how much fuel you need.

Also look for hints. For example Mugello has a Medium Fuel consumption. Other tracks are High, Very high, Low and Very low. Also think that if some of your car parts are better, you will probably spend less fuel. Also think that a better driver will help to spend less fuel.

Start collecting information from your races and you will be able to figure out how much fuel you use.
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Old post #5 posted May 2nd 2021, 00:08:34 (last edited May 2nd 2021, 00:14:22 by Mikko Heikkinen) Quote 
Quote ( Paradise Edokpayi @ May 1st 2021,22:24:28 )

How do you figure out how much fuel you use per lap?

In order to arrive there, remember to take into consideration that on different tracks the lap length may be different.

Check out this: /ViewTracks.asp?sort=lapd

Shortest lap: 2,3 km
Longest lap: 7,281 km

So even when the races were broadly speaking similar length (most are between 300km and 320 km), so the similar total amount could get you "there", still the the fuel use per lap (or how many laps per litres) can vary as some laps can be 2-3 times longer (or shorter) than others

Having that said, in the beginning it can be accurate enough to think in terms of "fuel/race length", but at some point you'll probably want to start thinking in terms of "L/km or km/L"

That way you'll also be able to collect data from one track and use it when planning a race on another track (if you take the similarities/differences of tracks into consideration)
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Old post #6 posted May 2nd 2021, 00:26:42 Quote 
Well tips above are good and from experienced players too, but definitely search the forums...

For fuel there's a table somewhere in old post (yet still valid) that can bring you up to speed.
If I still had a link to it I would certainly provide it as it gave me a head start as well quite soon, but I'm sorry..

But while doing so you might find other invaluable tips too!
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Old post #7 posted May 2nd 2021, 02:39:13 (last edited May 2nd 2021, 02:43:00 by Lauren Earnest) Quote 
there is 2 easy solution
1_ find a team to join ( no need for top team ) any team will help with the basics
2 - google

Finally , you logged in 58 time
spent :12,5 hours
signed 2 drivers
avé not done any race yet , how come
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Old post #8 posted May 2nd 2021, 08:40:19 Quote 
Quote ( Lauren Earnest @ May 2nd 2021,02:39:13 )

2 - google

or
3 - Duck

I mean, duck it on Duck.com.

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Old post #9 posted May 2nd 2021, 09:03:54 Quote 
Quote ( Zé Pedro Paula @ May 2nd 2021,08:40:19 )

I mean, duck it on Duck.com.

I prefer to duck it as well.
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Old post #10 posted May 2nd 2021, 09:31:08 Quote 
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Old post #11 posted May 2nd 2021, 09:39:53 Quote 
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Old post #12 posted Oct 13th 2023, 13:04:44 Quote 
This seems really weird. Why would fuel usage not simply be shown from practice? You need to guess from KM on a wiki or previous races? That's not how things work in real life at all...
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Old post #13 posted Oct 13th 2023, 13:15:07 (last edited Oct 13th 2023, 13:18:03 by Tibor Szuromi) Quote 
@Robbo Unknown (R71)

No need to guess.
Data must be collected and the formula for fuel consumption can be created based on them.
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Old post #14 posted Oct 13th 2023, 13:17:12 (last edited Oct 13th 2023, 13:24:18 by Tibor Szuromi) Quote 
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Quote ( Robbo Unknown @ October 13th 2023,13:18:52 )

You just explained guessing. Instead of using actual data used from the laps you already drove around the track with the car using fuel.


The thing is that everyone has a different set (driver, car), so I can't tell you the fuel consumption of other people.
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Old post #15 posted Oct 13th 2023, 13:18:52 Quote 
You just explained guessing. Instead of using actual data used from the laps you already drove around the track with the car using fuel.
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Old post #16 posted Oct 13th 2023, 16:34:28 (last edited Oct 13th 2023, 16:34:53 by Richard Robin Paukson) Quote 
Quote ( Robbo Unknown @ October 13th 2023,13:18:52 )

You just explained guessing. Instead of using actual data used from the laps you already drove around the track with the car using fuel.


I agree with you that it's unrealistic that practice laps don't show fuel consumption. After racing on a few tracks though it becomes fairly redundant.

Regardless of what it is/should be, here's how you can make some estimates before your first race: you can get an idea before your first race by doing testing. Make sure to convert the fuel usage to liters/km or km/liter. And either the wiki or Newbie Guide says that you are unlikely to use more than 280 liters of fuel in a 300 km race. I hope this helps.
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Old post #17 posted Oct 13th 2023, 16:38:41 Quote 
Quote ( Paradise Edokpayi @ May 1st 2021,22:24:28 )

How do you figure out how much fuel you use per lap?


Use the Google search engine,it is better than asking here because they will never give you useful information.

"Knowledge is power,but information is freedom." - John F. Kennedy
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Old post #18 posted Oct 13th 2023, 16:44:03 Quote 
Quote ( Daniel Navarro @ October 13th 2023,16:38:41 )

"Knowledge is power,but information is freedom." - John F. Kennedy

I'll remember that when I next ask Bill Gates for the Windows 11 source code so I can make my own operating system.
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Old post #19 posted Oct 13th 2023, 17:18:41 Quote 
Quote ( Josh Clark @ October 13th 2023,16:44:03 )

I'll remember that when I next ask Bill Gates for the Windows 11 source code so I can make my own operating system.


I hear Flo has the code.
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Old post #20 posted Oct 13th 2023, 17:33:06 Quote 
I don't know why things like fuel consumption are still required to be hidden. The advice that is given is to either use blacklisted sites, get in a team to harvest the information or look in google for other information. Why not give some raw information (not too precise) so that new players can get a decent strategy for their races. I think fuel consumption and tyre wear can certainly be in there.

But as said with pretty raw numbers, something like this lap took me between 2.5 and 3 liters and with these tyres the wear was between 2 and 2.5%. Later on they will find the need to get more exact numbers so that they can research it better. Basic intel shouldn't be foby in my opinion.
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Old post #21 posted Oct 13th 2023, 17:35:44 Quote 
It's not hidden, just do a race and voilà, there it is
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Old post #22 posted Oct 13th 2023, 17:39:28 Quote 
@Daniel Navarro (R88) Do you think; I can describe the calculation formula I deciphered?
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Old post #23 posted Oct 13th 2023, 17:41:22 Quote 
Quote ( Thijs Rieken @ October 13th 2023,17:35:44 )

It's not hidden, just do a race and voilà, there it is

Then it will only be helpful the next time you race at that track (which is average after 4 seasons)
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Old post #24 posted Oct 13th 2023, 17:43:12 Quote 
Quote ( Frederik Broux @ October 13th 2023,17:41:22 )

Then it will only be helpful the next time you race at that track (which is average after 4 seasons)


No, it isn't. You can estimate fuel for new tracks quite well even if you only have a few races under your belt.
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Old post #25 posted Oct 13th 2023, 17:59:53 Quote 
Unfortunately/fortunately, this is a game that requires time, persistence and ingenuity.
You shouldn't wait with your mouth open for a roasted pigeon instead of studying.
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Old post #26 posted Oct 13th 2023, 19:05:02 Quote 
Quote ( Josh Clark @ October 13th 2023,16:44:03 )

I'll remember that when I next ask Bill Gates for the Windows 11 source code so I can make my own operating system.

That might be pointless, He doesn't know.
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Old post #27 posted Oct 13th 2023, 19:35:56 Quote 

Quote ( Frederik Broux @ October 13th 2023,17:33:06 )

Why not give some raw information (not too precise) so that new players can get a decent strategy for their races. I think fuel consumption and tyre wear can certainly be in there.


Have you ever looked at a track page? I think each track page already has "raw information". And what about new tracks where no one has info on.

You didn't think that out to much, did ya?
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Old post #28 posted Oct 13th 2023, 22:26:03 (last edited Oct 13th 2023, 22:29:34 by Mikko Heikkinen) Quote 
Quote ( Ken Neihart @ October 13th 2023,19:35:56 )


Quote ( Frederik Broux @ October 13th 2023,17:33:06 )

Why not give some raw information (not too precise) so that new players can get a decent strategy for their races. I think fuel consumption and tyre wear can certainly be in there.

Have you ever looked at a track page? I think each track page already has "raw information". And what about new tracks where no one has info on.

You didn't think that out to much, did ya?



AND: You also get this:
As a base guideline it is unlikely that any standard 300km long race should exceed 280L of fuel.

/GPROFAQ.asp#q-how-much-fuel-do-i-need


Combine those two, and remember, you don't need (or even want) to be too accurate in the beginning.

Specially in rookie (and in amateur) you can do quite well with (considerable amounts) extra fuel.

My personal "record" is winning a race with 20 litres in tank at race end, and it wasn't even in rookie/amateur.

"some extra" isn't too bad to have, you'll get it more accurate in the future
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Old post #29 posted Oct 15th 2023, 00:45:04 Quote 
Fuel, with some simple analysis is the easiest to get.

In 5-6 races you can get a good comprehension and start making pretty good calculations.

It is so, that I'm aware of managers being able to get precise fuel for Losail, which was a complete new track with no previous data.
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Old post #30 posted Oct 15th 2023, 02:33:01 Quote 
Quote ( Eduardo Sanchez Carenzo @ October 15th 2023,00:45:04 )

Fuel, with some simple analysis is the easiest to get.

In 5-6 races you can get a good comprehension and start making pretty good calculations.

It is so, that I'm aware of managers being able to get precise fuel for Losail, which was a complete new track with no previous data.


Agreed. Also I would add tires.

Sure as a newcomer you wont win races but with that effort you will win points.

I came to this game in the middle of seasion.

9 races - 18 points.
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