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#61 posted Jan 26th 2022, 23:32:32
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The point isn't that there may be some benefit to changing the pre race schedule but there is little reason to do so given that it has only a minuscule effect on the total impact. Plus you can't complain about soft power and then not allow countries who would use military aircraft but then allow them to use aircraft from their national carrier, or even hosting the race in the first place. If that isn't soft power then what is? F1 has been increasingly more hypocritical on social and environmental issues. The sport has elitism in its DNA, so the only people this sort of marketing appeals to are people with more money than sense.
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Finally one car that might be on track! AMR22 is called?
RB18 looks really like the F1 concept car..
and HAAS is probably 70% of the new car, but I understand the need to hide..
I kind of like the AMR22. Hope they can fight midfield at least
RB18 new sponsor will provide 500Million over 5 years.. DAAAANNNNGGG
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#63 posted Feb 11th 2022, 08:33:30
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I've read somewhere before the RB18 launch that it was clearly said that they won't reveal any secrets at the launch. So I understand from it, that they admit that the launch is not the real car. But Aston Martin clearly stated that this is the real car. But I guess it still can changed in the next month before the first race.
And it is very interesting to see how different the body of VF-22 from AMR22 is...
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#64 posted Feb 11th 2022, 09:09:56
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I really don't get the point of these 'This is not our real car' car reveals.
I'm guessing these little 'shows' to drum up interest are exempt from the budget caps, somethings gotta be done to drive up hype preseason afterall.
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#65 posted Feb 23rd 2022, 19:12:27
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Interesting first day on the test track in Barcelona. I wonder if RedBull were sandbagging and just running high fuel long stints. Great to see McLaren and Ferrari perform well. Not a good day's work for Haas or Alfa Romeo!
Day one times
1. Norris (McLaren) 1m19.568s, C4, 102 laps
2. Leclerc (Ferrari) 1m20.165s, C3, 80 laps
3. Sainz (Ferrari) 1m20.416s, C3, 73 laps
4. Russell (Mercedes) 1m20.784s, C3, 77 laps
5. Hamilton (Mercedes) 1m20.929s, C3, 50 laps
6. Vettel (Aston Martin) 1m21.276s, C3, 52 laps
7. Tsunoda (AlphaTauri) 1m21.638s, C3, 120 laps
8. Alonso (Alpine) 1m21.746s, C3, 146 laps
9. Verstappen (Red Bull) 1m22.246s, C2, 147 laps
10. Bottas (Alfa Romeo) 1m22.572s, C3, 23 laps
11. Albon (Williams) 1m22.760s, C3, 66 laps
12. Schumacher (Haas) 1m22.962s, C3, 23 laps
13. Stroll (Aston Martin) 1m23.327s, C3, 67 laps
14. Latifi (Williams) 1m23.379s, C3, 66 laps
15. Mazepin (Haas) 1m24.505s, C2, 20 laps
16. Kubica (Alfa Romeo) 1m25.909s, C3, 9 laps
(C1 hardest, C5 softest tyre compound)
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#66 posted Feb 23rd 2022, 20:54:54
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Yes interesting first day, hope ferrari will come back on top ^^
I think red bull runned high fuel too, with C2 compounds and maybe low power unit, they "hide their game" ,no way that Newey miss a car based on that kind of technical regulation ^^
Maybe a battle for championship with 4 teams ! that will be great.
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#67 posted Feb 23rd 2022, 21:25:35
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I'm quite sure that no one is interested in setting fast laps at the moment with a brand new car. Understanding the new design, tires, setup, etc., is assuredly more important on Day 1 of official testing.
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#68 posted Feb 23rd 2022, 22:25:59
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I suppose with all the changes we've zero idea what times to expect, or does someone have an estimate even whether they'll be faster or slower than last year?
Red Bull aren't usually ones to hide their game. I bet we'll see a representative lap from them by day 3. (Only if Adrian Newey has somehow lost his touch and they're way off the pace Horner will make out they're sandbagging..)
McLaren and Ferrari did a filming day in Barcelona before the test, while Mercedes & Red Bull apparently used Silverstone. So we might expect the first two are a bit more up to speed at this track.
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#69 posted Feb 23rd 2022, 22:51:40
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Quote ( Roland Postle @ February 23rd 2022,22:25:59 ) I suppose with all the changes we've zero idea what times to expect, or does someone have an estimate even whether they'll be faster or slower than last year?
The official statement was that theyll be a couple second slower, then it was said that theyll be faster than last years cars by the end of the season. The latest rumors were that the cars are already as fast as last year.
So yeah, they might actually be faster.
Id honestly expect all of the top teams to be sandbagging a bit. Especially if theyve found some kinda innovation.
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#70 posted Feb 24th 2022, 02:38:20
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Without telemetry it's impossible to know if they are sandbagging.
Last season some ran very fast 1st and 2nd sectors and slowed on Sector 3, the later ran a slow 1st sector and fast 2nd and third, that way they can test car capabilities without showing their true potential.
Never trust a car performance on pre season testing
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#71 posted Feb 24th 2022, 10:14:37
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Fastest laps from last years race
https://www.formula1.com/en/results.html/2021/races/1086/spa...
So the numbers above are not far away at all. I think (weather dependent) that over the next couple of days we'll see more improvements in the times. At some point I would expect that the teams will need to understand how the car drives with push to the limit, 100CT and XS tyres :-)
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#72 posted Feb 24th 2022, 15:21:30
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Last year Q3 was 1:16.741 HAM for Pole (Using David's link)
It is not important for me, as much as they can provide close battles this year..
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#73 posted Feb 24th 2022, 16:40:54
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Quote ( Marcelo Ascencio @ February 24th 2022,15:21:30 ) It is not important for me, as much as they can provide close battles this year..
Well, before the tests Binotto said that the teams won't be pushing 100% during the tests, so if they are now 2 seconds off race pace and 4 seconds off best qualifying pace, I think that they could match at least the race pace of last year's car during first weekend, and probably they will catch up the other 2 seconds before the season finale.
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#74 posted Feb 24th 2022, 21:54:45
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Quote ( Tymoteusz Wojnarowski @ February 24th 2022,16:40:54 ) Quote ( Marcelo Ascencio @ February 24th 2022,15:21:30 )
It is not important for me, as much as they can provide close battles this year..
Well, before the tests Binotto said that the teams won't be pushing 100% during the tests, so if they are now 2 seconds off race pace and 4 seconds off best qualifying pace, I think that they could match at least the race pace of last year's car during first weekend, and probably they will catch up the other 2 seconds before the season finale.
Usual Test moves..
Not now, but In Bahrain we might have a glimpse of what each team has in regards of speed..
I hope all teams have a smooth car, so they can battle on track.. I think as of now Ferrari is being praised the most, (Every year is the same lol) and hope at least 3 or 4 teams have found some new tricks.
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#75 posted Feb 24th 2022, 22:09:04
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Here’s my predictions for the 2022 season:
1st Max Verstappen
2nd Lewis Hamilton
3rd George Russell
4th Lando Norris
5th Sérgio Perez Mendoza
6th Danny Ric
7th Charles Leclerc
8th Carlos Sainz, Jr
9th Pierre Gasly
10th Esteban Ocon
11th Lance Stroll
12th Seb Vettel
13th Fernando Alonso
14th Yuki Tsunoda
15th Alex Albon
16th Mick Schumacher
17th Zhou Guanyu
18th Valterri Bottas
19th Nicholas Latifi
20th Oscar Piastri (replacing Bottas after he gets ill one GP)
21st Nikita Mazepin
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#76 posted Feb 24th 2022, 22:14:03
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Did you just copy and paste the 2021 championship?
I have many flaws with your predictions Sonny
1 - Seb will not lose to Lance
2 - Zhou will not lose to Bottas
3 - Alfa Romeo won't use Piastri, they would use one of their own reserves like Gio or more likely Kubica
4 - that Ferrari many are saying is the best car, so them being in 7th and 8th is highly unlikely
5 - Alpines are regarded in having a good car, so i cannot see Alonso especially being 13th
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#77 posted Feb 24th 2022, 23:38:56
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So all teams had the ability to make two good days of testing, and seems like in all garages the word of the week is the same..
Not BIRD, the word of the week is Porpoise..
A thing of the 80's as they say, is back and now the team that finds the solution first will get the worm..
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#78 posted Feb 24th 2022, 23:42:47
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Quote ( Kyle Morris @ February 24th 2022,22:14:03 ) 2 - Zhou will not lose to Bottas
this is meant to be the other way round
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#79 posted Feb 24th 2022, 23:55:59
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Quote ( Sonny Long @ February 24th 2022,22:09:04 ) Here’s my predictions for the 2022 season:
Lol, do not become gambling-addicted, you will lose everything you have :D
- Piastri won't race for Alfa, as he is not their reserve driver or has any link with them.
- Mazepin would finish last if he eventually start the season. After Ural drops from Haas, I expect him to be replaced. If he eventually starts the season, he will be replaced after no more than 5 races. I would have my vote on Shwartzman as they might need help from Ferrari, but probably Giovinazzi or Hulk would be the chosen one.
- I don't want to make a bold statement until the actual racing starts, but a Ferrari driver will be in the top 3.
- Russel will beat Hamilton.
- Don't see Max winning a second one, but as I don't want to make a bold statement, I wouldn't say anything.
- Bottas will beat Zhou.
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#81 posted Feb 25th 2022, 06:59:56
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Quote ( Marcelo Ascencio @ February 24th 2022,23:38:56 ) So all teams had the ability to make two good days of testing, and seems like in all garages the word of the week is the same..
Not BIRD, the word of the week is Porpoise..
A thing of the 80's as they say, is back and now the team that finds the solution first will get the worm..
Im actually surprised how significantly the teams were caught out here. But I guess it goes to show, it doesnt matter how perceptually intelligent anybody is, everyone seems to struggle with paying attention to, learning from and remembering history.
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#82 posted Feb 25th 2022, 12:32:47
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They're just dropping the branding at the moment. It might be that the actual financial sponsorship question is taken out of their hands by Governments around the world, but as of now my understanding is that they are still backed by the company so Mazepin will stay? Happy to be proved wrong if there is more information out there.
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#83 posted Feb 25th 2022, 15:20:08
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Quote ( MG van Rensburg @ February 25th 2022,06:59:56 ) Im actually surprised how significantly the teams were caught out here. But I guess it goes to show, it doesnt matter how perceptually intelligent anybody is, everyone seems to struggle with paying attention to, learning from and remembering history.
The thing is, all the wind tunnels and simulators apparently are not capable of simulating this porpoising. So everyone was caught off-guard about it.
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#84 posted Feb 25th 2022, 17:45:45
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#85 posted Feb 25th 2022, 17:57:47
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back to 22 races this year then.. no?
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Quote ( Marcelo Ascencio @ February 25th 2022,17:57:47 ) back to 22 races this year then.. no?
I'd imagine the FIA will try and schedule another race on the same date, but in a different country. I'd have a guess that Turkey may fill that slot, if that's what the FIA decide to do.
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#87 posted Feb 25th 2022, 19:28:38
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Quote ( Marcelo Ascencio @ February 25th 2022,17:57:47 ) back to 22 races this year then.. no?
I have heard turkey may replace Russia.
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#88 posted Feb 25th 2022, 19:50:21
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Quote ( Paul Bright @ February 25th 2022,12:32:47 ) They're just dropping the branding at the moment. It might be that the actual financial sponsorship question is taken out of their hands by Governments around the world, but as of now my understanding is that they are still backed by the company so Mazepin will stay? Happy to be proved wrong if there is more information out there.
Hopefully they can continue as of now.. I heard rumors that his passport was going to be a problem, since apparently there are restrictions for Russians to travel
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#89 posted Feb 26th 2022, 21:21:37
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Uralkali has disappeared completely from the Haas F1 partners/Sponsors list does that mean we'll finally see the team get someone in the car who can challenge/beat Schumacher?
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#90 posted Feb 26th 2022, 21:25:49
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One can only hope.. Is Piastry available?
KMAG and GRO are busy in USA
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