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Topic: [MAFIA] Firefly Multirole |
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Quote ( Kirsty Ridley @ October 17th 2021,11:40:27 ) Bad Brad
:blush: I need a spanking.
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Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ October 17th 2021,12:44:06 ) Why does he have to speak to Ric every time ?
A lot of people are acting like this is weird. Rickers is a third party (I don't mean in Mafia game terms), a trusted friend and, most importantly, awake at the crucial hour.
You know it's not like the CIA asked the KGB what was going on with the Soviet Union ...
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I think Sudeep has a very good point about George's schizophrenic play. The VI angle seems much more likely then clever scum play. Hats off to George if he is indeed genius scum though. Richard may indeed be the better lunch candidate then.
##Vote Richard
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Candidates I do not support for lunching:
Ric
Kirsty
Ivelin
Davi
Sudeep
Amitesh
Brad
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Quote ( Richard Robin Paukson @ October 17th 2021,21:16:50 ) Can you please refresh my memory about Amitesh: is it his early game interactions with you?
I'll give you a case tomorrow.
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Quote ( Kirsty Ridley @ October 17th 2021,20:25:42 ) Can we just agree to vote one of those two and then do it and not have to try to keep reading between it all.
Sorry, which two exactly?
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Quote ( Brad Marshall @ October 17th 2021,22:01:01 ) Sorry, which two exactly?
It would appear you meant Ric or George.
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Quote ( Brad Marshall @ October 17th 2021,21:55:43 ) Candidates I do not support for lunching:
Ric
Kirsty
Ivelin
Davi
Sudeep
Amitesh
Brad
Wait, What?! XD
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Quote ( Amitesh Patnaik @ October 17th 2021,22:48:55 ) Wait, What?! XD
Only George is suicidal this game. :-p
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Quote ( Brad Marshall @ October 17th 2021,22:58:14 ) Only George is suicidal this game. :-p Saying this because I voted you?
:D
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Quote ( George Togas @ October 17th 2021,23:01:04 ) Saying this because I voted you?
Had more to do with you voting for yourself ...
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Ric questioning George on his GTH reads is what I thought initially was scummy for Ric. I do stand up for my town read on Ric though.
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Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ October 14th 2021,23:01:06 ) Also, what you are doing by saying "Jimmy is scum because of Ric" is called confirmation bias and its a no-no :) Just something I meant to react to - this is not confirmation bias. Confirmation bias is tunneling.
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Quote ( Davi Queiroz @ October 14th 2021,23:57:09 ) George is becoming Ric 2.0. He's tunneling so hard that he is almost lost in his path.
Oh another one. He's not tunneling. He doesn't even think Ric is scum.
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Quote ( Ivelin Dobrev @ October 18th 2021,05:14:03 ) Quote ( Davi Queiroz @ October 14th 2021,23:57:09 )
George is becoming Ric 2.0. He's tunneling so hard that he is almost lost in his path.
Oh another one. He's not tunneling. He doesn't even think Ric is scum.
What I mean is that he's convinced Ric is useless to town regardless, so I guess there is tunneling of some sort after all.
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Quote ( Kirsty Ridley @ October 15th 2021,00:46:18 ) Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ October 15th 2021,00:14:05 )
I can't even explain this... If you have 2 votes on you, don't you start to feel a bit under pressure ? If it was me, yes I would feel under pressure. It's called survival instinct
i think some ppl are scared of a wagon for sure. But its way too early for that to happen
It's too early for what to happen? Why is it early?
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Quote ( Kirsty Ridley @ October 15th 2021,00:47:26 ) oh, and no way am i doing a list on day 1, probably not day 2 either. Its just something for ppl to shout at and no real reads ... well none that stick usually.
I gotta say this is unhelpful and selfish. Stating your reads is probably one of the best things to start conversation on D1 and it can be used later to check for connections between scums. You refusing to do so is at the least unhelpful and could be scummy if I didn't know already you were scared to post reads lists from previous games.
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Quote ( Brad Marshall @ October 15th 2021,01:51:30 ) And now you're my suspect number one for NOT posting a list! How do you like dem apples of irony!?!
This, combined with your questionable Pressure Math, leads me to place you on the list of scum. Not a good film thus far, Tarantino!
##Unvote Jimmy de Cowboy
##Vote Quentin Tarantino I know I am digging things up, but can you elaborate on why the two reasons you voted Quentin for are actually scummy?
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Quote ( Armin van Hülkenburg @ October 15th 2021,02:45:41 ) Hi Sudeep, thanks for dropping by.
I'd just like you to address the logic you've applied to your vote.
In the underlined part, you say me reading Amitesh as town is what you don't like. That leads me to believe that you do not think Amitesh is town.
Yet your further reasoning (in bold), undermines your own reading ability by accusing me of trying to white-knight a town player, because I "know" he's town.
By that logic I would conclude that you do infact think Amitesh is town.
The bold part feels kinda slippy, as if deep down you know he's town. i.e. the logic you tried to apply to me.
Also I'm low-key insulted that you would think of my scum play as blatantly poor as that.
I could turn around and say exactly the thing about you - you're trying to make me out to be a white knight so you can try to white-knight me. Thing that that I don't like about this post - Armin seems to be concluding things that match his agenda and not the reality.
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Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ October 15th 2021,08:35:08 ) Quote ( Brad Marshall @ October 15th 2021,01:51:30 )
And now you're my suspect number one for NOT posting a list! How do you like dem apples of irony!?!
So half of the guys are suspects number one then ?
Pretty bad shit-slinging here from Quentin.
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Quote ( Sudeep Pednekar @ October 15th 2021,10:05:44 ) Tl;dr of the above post is that:-
1. IMO, Armin has a stonger scum lean on Davi (which itself is blown out of proportion a bit) which he does not even pursue.
2. Instead he goes after Ric, on whom he has no real case. It's just some words put together for finding him scummy.
3. His confident town read on Amitesh comes from knowledge of him being town (imo). Which is why he's white knighting him and attacking Ric. I think that Armin thinks or thought at that point in time that Amitesh was going to be the most likely lynch for today so he just declared him town to stay away from his wagon.
4. His early pressure on Davi could also be an attempt at early distancing (something to be kept in mind if he flips scum).
Is a TL:dr post like that a common practice where you usually play Sudeep?
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Quote ( Amitesh Patnaik @ October 15th 2021,11:24:59 ) Looking at George's game, it feels very lost and perplexed.
As far as I can see, it's possibly his first time being town and all his talk seems like a complete newbie town, who is a bit confused about what he has to do as town.
(Trust me, I haven't really found the answer to this yet, but you get a clue as you play)
He is trying to avoid trouble but Ric coming at him while swinging his hammer like a mad man is only putting him under duress and skewing his own reads.
I really don't think we will get much by pressuring him further, except some mistakes and misreads.
Something I find concerning about Amitesh is this type of posts where he takes something someone else already said, changes the wording and makes it look like his own thought. In this case, Armin already had come to the same conclusion.
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Quote ( Richard Robin Paukson @ October 15th 2021,11:27:17 ) You can also put "Null", meaning you don't know, or "Possible town/scum" like George did if you're not very sure.
Technically if you are doing a GTH you are not supposed to put anything else than town or scum. If at this point I didn’t think George is a townie who finally realized he can’t play properly as he doesn’t seem to have the profile of a mafia player, I would have questioned him on that part of his list.
On that subject, Ric, why didn’t you question George about that?
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Up to post 600 on properly catching up.
Richard is struggling for content. Spending time asking pointless questions like this:
Quote ( Richard Robin Paukson @ October 15th 2021,11:43:11 ) Quote ( Brad Marshall @ October 15th 2021,01:51:30 )
##Unvote Jimmy de Cowboy
##Vote Quentin Tarantino
I see that Seb has counted this vote but is it valid?
And then wasting time trying to explain mafia theory to George.
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Quote ( Sudeep Pednekar @ October 15th 2021,16:48:57 ) Wouldn't want to lynch Davi or Richard. Why?
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Quote ( Armin van Hülkenburg @ October 15th 2021,12:26:58 ) Why has your opinion changed since you questioned him about it? Did you expect him to agree with you? No, you knew what he was going to say. Still you questioned him on it. You knew it was going to be a waste of time. Don't use that as an excuse to backtrack. You actually don't even care about your read on Davi, you just wanted to show that you were scum hunting. Armin, I don’t believe you addressed that. Any reason why? Can you address it?
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Ok, I’m falling asleep here. I tried to catch up completely but I couldn’t. I’m happy with my vote on Richard but I would policy lynch George if needed and am not against lynching Brad who I haven’t gotten up to yet.
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Quote ( Ivelin Dobrev @ October 18th 2021,06:12:10 ) Something I find concerning about Amitesh is this type of posts where he takes something someone else already said, changes the wording and makes it look like his own thought. In this case, Armin already had come to the same conclusion.
Yeah, Armin did say that first about newbies in general.
That's where I got the thought to view George's actions from the same perspective as I had during my first game, hating everyone and everything during that game.
So I was reasonably happy to put George in leaning town. And the point of the post is to nudge them away the squabble (howsoever terrible).
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EBWOP
Quote ( Amitesh Patnaik @ October 18th 2021,07:08:52 ) And the point of the post is to nudge them away from the squabble (howsoever terrible).
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Quote ( Quentin Rieg @ October 15th 2021,23:21:23 )
I'm going to explain it in an other way : who is the most under pressure ? Someone with 2 votes or someone without any vote ?
in my opinion neither but that is me.
Quote ( Ricardo Antunes @ October 16th 2021,12:58:58 )
your lack of willingness to cooperate is baffling.
What is lack of willingness about his answer? i don't understand why people should post the same thing multiple times.
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