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I find it funny that every russian post is downvoted even if person has some actual thought or argument. Show the blind hate takes over mind.
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Very funny video. The Armed Forces of Ukraine from a conventional civilian drone drop VOGs on the "killer of drones" - the REF system "ROSC-1". The Russians advertised it as a complex that shoots down thousands of drones :) Another advertisement for the modern Russian military-industrial complex.
https://t.me/informnapalm/11281?single
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Quote ( Andris Laskins @ August 12th 2022,21:42:08 ) I find it funny that every russian post is downvoted even if person has some actual thought or argument. Show the blind hate takes over mind.
Just out of curiosity - what are actual those thoughts?
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My thoughts are that all post in this topic are evenly sad, no matter if it is written by someone with a Ukrainian flag behind his name or a Russian flag.
None of you knows whats really going on and you are all blinded by dumb hate and even dumber propaganda by both sides.
But please by all means go on, if you like making a fool of yourself.
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Quote ( Quintus Vanghaele @ August 12th 2022,21:57:45 ) None of you knows whats really going on and you are all blinded by dumb hate and even dumber propaganda by both sides. What I know for sure - that a foreign army broke into my country, thousands of rockets have already flown into my cities, but my country does not respond in kind. That alone makes your moralizing sickening.
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Quote ( Quintus Vanghaele @ August 12th 2022,21:57:45 ) None of you knows whats really going on and you are all blinded by dumb hate and even dumber propaganda by both sides The only one who made a fool of himself is you.
War in OUR country. You know this is when people from another country come to kill you, destroy your house, and take by force what belongs to you. What exactly do we not know about this situation? In your opinion, we do not see how people close to us, friends, and just people of Ukraine are dying? That they are being killed by Russian soldiers? That civilians are dying because the Russians are shelling peaceful cities?
What exactly do we not know when the war is in OUR country? Not somewhere on the other side of the planet, and you see all this on TV, but in OUR home.
What exactly do you think we don't know? Please, tell.
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Quote ( Ihor Rusnak @ August 12th 2022,21:44:03 ) Quote ( Andris Laskins @ August 12th 2022,21:42:08 )
I find it funny that every russian post is downvoted even if person has some actual thought or argument. Show the blind hate takes over mind.
Just out of curiosity - what are actual those thoughts?
A provocative question. You didn't do any research and asked me directly hoping for some hype. Next time do better.
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@Quintus Vanghaele (A52) People who say "none of you knows whats really going" are fools in principle.
Some scary people behind the scenes, rule the world while we don't know the truth. How mysterious and scary. Oooooo. And at the same time, it's very convenient for these guys when people like you think so. They do not even need to be smarter than you, or better than you. You did everything for them.
So you prefer to live in your little world with ponies, rainbows, and unicorns. You see nothing, you hear nothing, and you cannot influence anything. You are like pets. Only pets do not choose their fate, but for you, this is a conscious choice.
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Quote ( Andris Laskins @ August 12th 2022,23:26:36 ) A provocative question. You didn't do any research and asked me directly hoping for some hype. Next time do better.
Why do I need a fuss? Behind the hype, it is impossible to exchange views. I asked a very specific question - what actual thoughts or arguments do you see in the messages of Russians on this forum? They can be classified into several groups: - The USA creates conflict precedents, Russia only follows their logic; - Russia has the right to the territory of Ukraine because... historically, Russia is stronger... and so on; - Sanctions do not work, the EU is shooting itself in the foot, lift the sanctions (in Dmitri's version - leave the sanctions, they only make us stronger). - In winter, everyone will freeze, except Russia; - In fact, everyone loves Russia, only publicly evil Americans prevent them from doing it; - The United States will definitely try (or is already trying) to seize Russian resources or squeeze Russia out of world markets ...
Here's a quick look at the narratives (with variations) that the Russians are promoting here on the forum. Hope you mean something else. But if you really think that you can read my mind and I'm hope on provocation, then it's better to get by with your mysterious, so wise, message at the beginning of this page. Sorry, I couldn't do without passive aggression - but you were the first to start.
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Quote ( Andris Laskins @ August 12th 2022,21:42:08 ) I find it funny that every russian post is downvoted even if person has some actual thought or argument. Show the blind hate takes over mind. Just for fun, only russian posts? And how do you decide which post "has some actual thought or argument" and which one hasn't?
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Quote ( Serhiy Cherkasov @ August 12th 2022,20:22:38 ) The loss of eight combat aircraft is insignificant compared to the total number of military aircraft that Russia has in this war. However, Saki was mainly used as a base for the aviation of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy, whose capabilities are currently significantly reduced. The incident is likely to force the Russian command to take a fresh look at the risks and threats to which the peninsula is exposed. Until now, Crimea was most likely viewed as a safe rear.
Funny conclusion: Russia still has a lot of planes, but there will be exhaustion in the Crimea. Apparently, special Crimean planes are needed for Crimea.
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Quote ( Ihor Rusnak @ August 12th 2022,21:20:08 ) Well, why are you lying. The vast majority have no tattoos at all. The captured Ukrainian soldier on the video talks about this.
That is, when you show one soldier in slippers, you conclude that they are all in slippers, and when they show a dozen soldiers with a swastika, you write that there is no such thing in the Ukrainian army at all.
I was just amused by your conclusions on one photo. Although if you don't have any other news, this one will do.
Let's wait for the trial of the Azov people - there we'll see what they say. Are you coming to protect them?
Quote ( Ihor Rusnak @ August 12th 2022,21:20:08 ) It's all entertainment for you, right? Are you not interested? And people on the street are caught like cattle and forced to storm the Ukrainian positions so that the Ukrainian artillery gives away it location. Are you going to live side by side with these people? He's not interested... Ugh, I'm grossed out of talking to you. I gave you I don’t know what chance to communicate normally, that’s all.
You've switched back to some kind of bestial language. This has been done in your country for a long time. And on a large scale.
And there is no need to tell about our draft - all the time there were those who wanted to cut off from the army.
How many Ukrainian men of military age fled abroad so as not to die for Zelensky?
Quote ( Ihor Rusnak @ August 12th 2022,21:20:08 ) You are a boot. Buildings are just buildings, even if they are 19th century architecture. By destroying the building, you will only cause economic damage, you can destroy our historical symbols, but militarily you cannot defeat Ukraine at once and after critically March for us never will be able to
It's good that you admit that we can destroy all these military buildings in one day.
Maybe you'll think - why don't we do this?
Although now you work as a paid propagandist - you respond rudely and with slogans. When you're going to think for yourself, think.
Quote ( Ihor Rusnak @ August 12th 2022,21:20:08 ) Ukraine, on the other hand, each time inflicts on you not just slaps in the face, but great military losses that cannot be compensated. "Moscow" can no longer be restored, "Nitka" in the Crimea - too.
Great! One ship and five planes are two big military losses in six months. You also forgot to say that you have recaptured Snake Island, although only your rag is there from Ukrainian.
Quote ( Ihor Rusnak @ August 12th 2022,21:20:08 ) No need to scare the hedgehog with your bare ass - your only chance of success was in the lightning capture of Kyiv through Gostomel, which you failed thanks to the Ukrainian special forces and others who are not talked about.
It was unrealistic to take Kiev at that moment and perhaps it would not be attacked at all.
Can you remember how you lost Kherson and Melitopol? or how then they kicked you out of Mariupol and deprived you of access to the Sea of Azov.
The Sea of Azov is now completely Russian. Quite a normal result for the first part of a military operation.
If you also remember that they took control of the largest nuclear power plant in Europe.
So let the clown jump on the Bank for now.
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Quote ( Andris Laskins @ August 12th 2022,21:42:08 ) I find it funny that every russian post is downvoted even if person has some actual thought or argument. Show the blind hate takes over mind.
I have written unpleasant news about Russia more than once.
Even if I write that I am for Zelensky, there will still be a denial.
Proof that few people here are trying not only to think, but even to read.
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Quote ( Ihor Rusnak @ August 12th 2022,21:42:52 ) Very funny video. The Armed Forces of Ukraine from a conventional civilian drone drop VOGs on the "killer of drones" - the REF system "ROSC-1". The Russians advertised it as a complex that shoots down thousands of drones :) Another advertisement for the modern Russian military-industrial complex.
Have you seen the video when a Ukrainian drone drops a mine on Russian soldiers who are evacuating a wounded man?
In the Ukrainian public this video caused great delight.
Do you think it will be proof of the war crimes of the Ukrainian army or you can do everything?
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Quote ( Quintus Vanghaele @ August 12th 2022,21:57:45 ) None of you knows whats really going on and you are all blinded by dumb hate and even dumber propaganda by both sides.
I agree about propaganda - it works everywhere. I will partially agree about hatred. I've been trying to keep myself together lately.
But there are really few people who want to understand something about this topic.
More often they come with hatred. And hatred and attempts to think are different sides.
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Quote ( Ihor Rusnak @ August 12th 2022,22:04:18 ) That alone makes your moralizing sickening.
You have once again shown that you stand in the position that it is necessary to fight to the last Ukrainian and not agree to peace.
The money you are paid for inciting hatred against Russians is more important to you than the lives of Ukrainians.
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Quote ( Senya Isaev @ August 12th 2022,23:36:09 ) So you prefer to live in your little world with ponies, rainbows, and unicorns. You see nothing, you hear nothing, and you cannot influence anything. You are like pets. Only pets do not choose their fate, but for you, this is a conscious choice.
Senya, you heard something, but you didn't understand anything as usual.
Only when people understand that they are being controlled will they be able to decide how and what to do on their own.
If you think that something depends on your words or deeds and no one influences you - keep thinking like that, you are perfect for the general stupid herd.
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Quote ( Ihor Rusnak @ August 12th 2022,23:48:00 ) - The USA creates conflict precedents, Russia only follows their logic;
- Russia has the right to the territory of Ukraine because... historically, Russia is stronger... and so on;
- Sanctions do not work, the EU is shooting itself in the foot, lift the sanctions (in Dmitri's version - leave the sanctions, they only make us stronger).
- In winter, everyone will freeze, except Russia;
- In fact, everyone loves Russia, only publicly evil Americans prevent them from doing it;
- The United States will definitely try (or is already trying) to seize Russian resources or squeeze Russia out of world markets ...
Sometimes you turn on an adequate person.
I can continue the main theses, it's not difficult for me.
- USA sees that Russia is becoming stronger and more independent, so it does not want to lose its dominance in the world (does anyone doubt that after 30 years USA dominated?). - Russia has the right to its security near its borders and if it feels strong, it must ensure this security. - Most of the world dislikes America very much, but few people can openly challenge it. But I am ready to support the one who will do it. - When USA sees that there is a threat to its dominance, they will try to bring it back. - Russia has a lot of natural resources that it has no right to sell at market price. - Russia has no right to have a political system that America and Europe do not like.
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Pulitzer Prize winner, American journalist Glen Greenwald:
"We have to think about whether our government has played a role in Ukraine, and we clearly have. We have surrounded Russia with a hostile military alliance that should never have approached its borders, as we promised when the USSR allowed the Germans to reunite.
It was very dangerous for Russia, if you look at the history of the twentieth century. They did this on the condition that NATO would not go further east. But we immediately went under Clinton, and then under Bush. Right up to the borders with Russia. Look at how we got involved in Ukraine when Burisma did not pay the son of a Ukrainian politician. They paid Joe Biden's son because he is the one who runs Ukraine.
So we have been running Ukraine since 2014, including the change of government.
We invaded Russia twice in the twentieth century, and then suddenly we say that we have nothing to do with Ukraine. Of course we play an important role, and of course this threatens Russia. It's as if the Russians started operating in Mexico."
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ August 13th 2022,10:17:00 ) Senya, you heard something, but you didn't understand anything as usual.
Only when people understand that they are being controlled will they be able to decide how and what to do on their own.
If you think that something depends on your words or deeds and no one influences you - keep thinking like that, you are perfect for the general stupid herd. At least more russian pigs die on our land from my deeds, this is enough for now
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Quote ( Senya Isaev @ August 13th 2022,12:39:48 ) At least more russian pigs die on our land from my deeds, this is enough for now
Your "deeds" cause only laughter, and it prolongs life and improves mood :)
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The APU offensive on Kherson is highly likely not to happen — now the Washington Post writes about it, whose correspondents visited the scene of events near Nikolaev
The leading American tabloid Washington Post gave birth to a large article authored by four journalists about the situation of the heroic defenders of Ukraine near Nikolaev. If we omit the invariable pathetic tone and a dozen typical pearls, for example, about the occupiers who are afraid to go out in Kherson because they will be "immediately hanged or drowned", then the message remains that there will simply be no so loudly announced "liberation of Kherson" because of the bad situation with weapons.
Journalists and their speakers, including the "army commander" General Dmitry Marchenko, an unnamed adviser to Zelensky's Office and a fugitive Kherson "journalist" Ryzhenko, are trying to maintain a good face with a bad game, but the authors of the article write almost directly, referring to their observations and the words of one of the military forces for a successful offensive on Kherson the APU does not.
Marchenko's bravura words are quoted that the offensive "will go quickly if the APU receives a full package of Western military assistance," the words of an unnamed adviser about the possible "result of a brilliant Ukrainian strategic decision," but the meaning remains the same — "the clock is ticking."
"But time is slipping away. If Ukraine wants to achieve the stated goal of President Vladimir Zelensky — to win the war by the end of the year, then the current situation at the front shows a rather bleak prospect," writes WP.
Although the rhetoric of the article resembles an unsuccessful climb up a hill with the raising of clouds of dust, the conclusions of Western journalists should not lull the vigilance of our military analysts, officials and the population following the course of hostilities. There are no reasons for bravura joy, but it is worth considering — the leading foreign media is already openly talking about the impossibility of a widespread offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the buildup of the grouping of our forces in the Mykolaiv direction.
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ August 13th 2022,13:04:26 ) Your "deeds" cause only laughter, and it prolongs life and improves mood :) I have no doubt that you find it funny when your pig friends die in Ukraine
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The United States did not give Ukraine weapons with which it could strike at the Saki airfield in Crimea, a representative of the US Defense Ministry said on condition of anonymity at a closed briefing for the American media. He added that the United States has nothing to indicate that the attack on the airfield was carried out by missiles.
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Quote ( Senya Isaev @ August 13th 2022,13:17:45 ) I have no doubt that you find it funny when your pig friends die in Ukraine
You're good for talking insults. This way you help your army win even more.
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Sanctions are one thing, but money is another :) --------
The Finnish shipyard Arctech Helsinki Shipyard intends to begin construction of an icebreaker for the Russian mining and metallurgical company Norilsk Nickel, despite sanctions against Russia.
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⚡️ "NATO can force Ukraine to abandon the southern and eastern regions," writes The National Interest
As the Ukrainian crisis drags on, the attitude of the United States and its partners towards Kiev is beginning to change. Western countries are increasingly doubting the need for further support for Ukraine.
As noted in the article, Zelensky "made it clear that Ukraine would demand five billion dollars a month from its partners."
However, in the article of The National Interest, that the requirements for five billion dollars are unlikely to be fulfilled in the long term. "As the crisis drags on, more and more citizens and political representatives (we are talking about Western countries) will begin to doubt the need for these investments," the article says.
It is noted that even in the United States there has been a serious split in relation to Kiev.
In this regard, the article notes, the West and Kiev need a new viable strategy. In particular, NATO countries are invited to start putting pressure on Kiev and insist on starting negotiations.
As part of the new long-term strategy of the alliance, the Ukrainian leadership must accept the loss of control over the eastern and southern regions. In response, Russia is invited to recognize the sovereignty of the remnants of Ukraine. Otherwise, the situation risks escalating into a protracted conflict and it will be harder for Kiev to continue it, the article by The National Interest emphasizes.
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On this day, August 13, 2014, Ukrainian punishers struck a children's beach in the city of Zugres (DPR) from the Smerch MLRS.
A total of 13 people were killed, including three children, and another 30 civilians were injured.
REMEMBER
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ August 13th 2022,13:19:45 ) You're good for talking insults. This way you help your army win even more.
Insults? It's a facts. I just call a spade a spade.
Don't worry, Your propaganda can't get them back alive
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Quote ( Dmitry Knyazev @ August 13th 2022,13:23:28 ) On this day, August 13, 2014, Ukrainian punishers struck a children's beach in the city of Zugres (DPR) from the Smerch MLRS.
A total of 13 people were killed, including three children, and another 30 civilians were injured.
REMEMBER Yeah, we remember. Until Russia came to our land, no one died.
RUSSIA = DEATHS. WE REMEMBER.
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